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Side Stepping Attacks Question
« on: June 02, 2013, 20:35 »

To successfully side step do you have to literally side step, or can you move any direction. For instance if an enemy approached you from the north you would have to move either left or right to have a chance to evade the attack correct?
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Re: Side Stepping Attacks Question
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2013, 20:50 »

To successfully side step do you have to literally side step, or can you move any direction. For instance if an enemy approached you from the north you would have to move either left or right to have a chance to evade the attack correct?
Yes, and it's worth remembering that a sidestep only applies to the first attack from a volley, and it's not a guaranteed dodge without the Dodgemaster trait.
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Re: Side Stepping Attacks Question
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 02:12 »

To successfully side step do you have to literally side step, or can you move any direction. For instance if an enemy approached you from the north you would have to move either left or right to have a chance to evade the attack correct?

You'll have a chance to dodge (100% on the first shot with dodgemaster) even if you move diagonally in that case. To know where you should side step, picture the trajectory of the enemy attack. Dodge means that the monster attacks the tile where you were standing before you moved, not the one where you are after you move, so if you move out of the attack's trajectory, you can dodge the shot.

Of course, be careful around enemies with area of effect attacks - dodging in a way that still splashes you when the projectile hits a wall behind you is not ideal.
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Re: Side Stepping Attacks Question
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 06:15 »

Yes, and it's worth remembering that a sidestep only applies to the first attack from a volley, and it's not a guaranteed dodge without the Dodgemaster trait.

Dodgemaster does only apply to the first attack from a volley, but can't you also dodge the other shots if you're lucky? I remember regularly dodging whole arachnotron volleys with HR3.
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Re: Side Stepping Attacks Question
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 06:30 »

Dodgemaster does only apply to the first attack from a volley, but can't you also dodge the other shots if you're lucky? I remember regularly dodging whole arachnotron volleys with HR3.
Yes, you can. HR helps quite a huge lot here, 15% dodge chance per level (IIRC).
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Re: Side Stepping Attacks Question
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2013, 06:53 »

For details see here.

So if you are running and have HR3, an arachnotron 3 tiles away will only aim at you with 5% of their projectiles if you sidestep, which means on average shot every 4 volleys if you don't have dodgemaster and then there's a chance they'll miss anyway..... wait, am I doing the math wrong? This seems too good to be true...
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Re: Side Stepping Attacks Question
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2013, 07:17 »

For details see here.

So if you are running and have HR3, an arachnotron 3 tiles away will only aim at you with 5% of their projectiles if you sidestep, which means on average shot every 4 volleys if you don't have dodgemaster and then there's a chance they'll miss anyway..... wait, am I doing the math wrong? This seems too good to be true...
Let me see - 20% initial chance + 3 tiles * 4% distance chance + 3*15% for HR3 + 20% for running = 97%, so you hit the 95% dodge chance cap - your math seems correct.
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Re: Side Stepping Attacks Question
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2013, 09:57 »

I think it's kind of funny that people here got so caught up in describing the technical aspects of dodging that they forgot to answer the original question!  :)

To successfully side step do you have to literally side step, or can you move any direction?

You can move in any direction that isn't in the path of the bullet and it will be considered a side step.  It doesn't have to be exactly perpendicular to the path of the shot.

Also, kudos for correctly using the word "literally."  :D
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