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[N!|AoMc+AoOC|YAVP|32%]Destroyer Diamond

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thelaptop:
Damn dual angels really require some serious looking-into with regards to balance.

* thelaptop cusses at KK for putting it in with little thought
That said, good win and I must salute all those who managed to cheese their way through via this loophole.  =P

Sereg:
AoMC N! with under 50 damage for an entire run would be something out of TwoDev's book.

It's nice to have a few diamonds now available to somewhat dedicated players without that extreme amount of skill, but I would have to agree that there are balance issues with Dual Angels, particularly these two. It's worth noting, however, that there are some Dual Angels which are working as intended - AoHu+AoMs, or AoP+Ao100, for example. Perhaps it would be possible to disable combinations that simplify one or both components, and simply leave the rest as actual challenges?

Evilpotatoe:
"Just" remove every advantage the challenges give, and we should get something balanced.

Btw, this would be quite brutal (no speed bonus on AoLT, AoMC would, at last, become a REAL challenge, AOB wouldn't be exploitable anymore... also, AoP without healing would feel quite ArchAngelic :)
Btw, it also means no AoC or AoOC, since shorter game is often a huge advantage.

It would be way closer to what was intended : challenges !Currently, they are just good to win non-standard-N! under 4 minutes and cheese badges...

Klear:
Personally, I'd simply disallow badge gains from dual angels. You should be playing double angels to further challenge yourself.

scotherns:
Does this really count as cheesy? It seemed plenty diffcult to me (and I have played a lot). Getting Longinus Diamond by throwing knives at the AoD while running around the Cathedral felt cheesy, but this didn't :-)

Not that I really mind, cheesy or not, it was fun for me, and once I reach the point where all of the remaining badges/medals appear unachieveable, I'll probably stop playing (until the next version appears). Now I just need to find an Onyx and a Nano in the same run to get Armorer Diamond.

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