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wtf is wrong with melee?
Blade:
I tend to disagree. AoB is very easy on hard levels. Belive me, i made it without savescumming in Malicious Knives challenge to level 16. Even without LS, only with chainsaw, game is more than beatable without savescumming. And it is so if:
"1. You are playing an Angel of Berserk challenge"(It is necessary)
"3. You max out the Brute perk (and probably take berserk)."(this is required only if you are playing without weapons, or with knife, chainsaw is powerfull enough to deal great damage with Brute*2, and LS don't need it at all)
"4. After dozens of deaths in the first few levels you finally manage to get the chainsaw."(after several hundreds of deaths you will get certain skill to survive when you don't have normal weapon)
Berserk is a very powerfull instrument. It is the easiest way to win melee game without weapons, or with knife. You can deal normal damage in such game only if you are Berserk. Berserk grants you very fast speed and very good protection, and that is enough if not to win every fight, then at least survive. Eat Berserk every day and you will be healthy and your hair will be silky. Be careful of fakes, buy Berserk only in our shop!))
In addition: all you need is skills and experience. And this can obtained only if you will play not one dozen of games. I obtained experience of surviving after Malicious Knives challenge, unarmed game and Nighmare!(tm) runs.
Supernaut:
What is Malicious Knives Challenge?
Blade:
Here it is. See title under my name? Guess, who is the winner?))
TFoN:
--- Quote from: Styro on February 12, 2007, 10:24 ---This example of melee being overpowered:
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Blade killed the AoD, while being berserk and unarmed - the secret is in making him bleed, and then retreating while he loses HPs. But this requires shitloads of luck. Point is, if you see the AoD bleeding, consider not trying to hit him, but run until the bleeding stops, and then resume battering.
is not a good one because Blade played that game while save-scumming just to see if it was even possible. He died numerous times in order to get that result.
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Well, that's not really true, simply because that wasn't an example for why melee's overpowered :)
Notice I said that system requires "shitloads of luck" - nothing uber requires "shitloads of luck"!
I was just talking about something useful when fighting the AoD from a disadvantage.
Now, really regarding melee being overpowered:
First of all, I don't think I've ever taken all 3 levels of Brute. Not to say that's the best idea, but I *have* beaten melee games, so I *know* it's possible :P
Also, I don't think I've died "dozens" of times between Chainsaw-reaching games (though this is regarding only M diff). Still, even 5 impossible games (especially for low difflvls) at a time are way too many. Referring to Blade's post, skill should certainly affect your ability to pull extraordinary stunts, but not be so required to survive early-game balance issues. These should, IMO, be resolved by changing them.
Supernaut:
--- Quote from: Blade on February 14, 2007, 13:42 ---Here it is. See title under my name? Guess, who is the winner?))
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Damn...
Will it be licking your * if I say that you rule?
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