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Shottyman Challenge
RepoRipper:
ok heres the logic: bfgs, RLs, and plasma rifles are too heavy to be held in only hand, chainsaw requires both hands to keep from slicing off your own legs, *FISTS*????? ur ALREADY punching with both hands!, as for shotguns, the recoil will blow it right outa your hands if you havent got a firm grip! the LS is a unique item: you can only aqquire it ONCE. if u have two, ur messing with the programming code. Chainguns are classically double held (look at Wolfenstein illustrations, he stands in a doorway with twin chainguns!), and most of a chainguns real weight is from all the bullets loaded into it! they are also some of the only weapons in the world with little or no recoil, because the revolving barrel converts it into centrifical force, throwing it directly away from the center of the barrel. as for the downsides, thats 10 turns to unload both guns, ie an entire stack of bullets. yeah. unless ur playing my Arena of Carnage, why are u carrying more than 3 stacks of ammo. then u gotta remember that late in the game, 10mm ammo is almost as scarce as shotgun shells!
Supernaut:
Dunno about plasma rifles, though - US army didnt give any info about recoil and how the weapon fires. Too bad.
Doom has a kind of pseudo realism, so babbling into details like how much recoil which weapon had seems pointless.
Chainguns would anyway weight tons, probably because you carry so much ammo Žon your torso.
TFoN:
Vulcans/miniguns/chainguns don't have recoil...? Are you sure about this? Anyway, they still require two hands to manage - one for fire and one for support, since it doesn't use a conventional trigger (which would mean having the entire thing supported by one hand, likely on a bad angle), but more of a lever. Kind of like a chainsaw, come to think of it.
But who cares? It's a nonsensical game. Do you feel like discussing why you can take shitloads of damage even before healing, often taking out a couple of AVs, High Bastards of Hell, without needing a medkit? Or how come a pistol takes up as much space as 10 rockets or a BFG...? Why Arachs, walking brains, don't plan better attacks and keep walking in lava? Or why you never pee your pants?!
BDR:
--- Quote from: RepoRipper on March 08, 2007, 23:42 ---unless ur playing my Arena of Carnage, why are u carrying more than 3 stacks of ammo. then u gotta remember that late in the game, 10mm ammo is almost as scarce as shotgun shells!
--- End quote ---
What the fark? That second reason is EXACTLY why you carry more than 3 stacks of 10mm ammo around if you're primarily using a pistol/chaingun (especially in Angel of Marksmanship)! If you can kill the hellspawn fast enough you don't need a lot of extra medkits, and if you're playing AoMr, when you run out of 10mm ammo you are pretty well and truly screwed unless you can find more before the remaining enemies come for you.
RepoRipper:
ok BDR, it is IMPLIED that AoM is an exeption, and as for how much u carry, i happen to have tossed my chaingun at lvl 18/19/20, because i was picking up so much plasma, and i still had my ARL. point is, especially if the level range is increased, you will be finding yourself severely needing those 3 or 4 10mm ammo slots DESPERATELY by midgame
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