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[H|YAAM/YAFW] Strongman Diamond Conqueror! :D
« on: January 20, 2014, 01:41 »

I've gotten Strongman Diamond a couple times in previous versions, but never as a conqueror.  In the past, I didn't even try to get the Conqueror badge; it just seemed too daunting, but then someone else did it...  I think?...  I seem to remember someone posting a mortem in which they got Strongman Diamond as conqueror, but I can't find it now!  :o  (I found mortems from appuru, Q2ZOv, and Sylph, but none of them are conquerors, so maybe I'm misremembering?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong)  :|  Anyway, I put off getting Strongman Diamond in this version, because I figured if I was going to do it, I'd better do it as conqueror, or it would be "just another Strongman Diamond" and I wanted it to be something a little more special.  :D  Nevertheless, I have to give credit to Q2ZOv and Sylph for helping to lay the foundations of my strategy for this game in the above-mentioned mortems.  :)

Unlike my previous attempts at this badge, this time, I followed Sylph's advice and went for Brute 3 instead of going straight to Berserker.  Usually, I favour the strategy of hanging back until I'm berserk and then charging into the fray to make the berserk last as long as possible.  This time around, there was a lot more hanging back and the first five levels or so were a pretty intense game of juggling my weapons and hoping against hope that nothing died while I had a weapon in my hands.  Once I got Vampyre trait, I pretty much abandoned all weapon use, eventually throwing them all away except my missile launcher for wall-busting, and used my fists exclusively.

Notes from this run:

Hell's Arena was the hardest hurdle to overcome and I almost didn't make it.  (I used up all my med packs)  Luckily, there was a berserk pack near the entrance that let me take out two of the cacodemons right off the bat and the level afterward had two small med packs in the starting room that helped me get back on my feet.

By chained court, I had berserker trait, so I was able to do a bit of the "charge into the fray" strategy and took out three of the hell knights with one berserk pack!  :)  After that, I did some gift-dropping and waited in the doorway a bit to help take out some of the formers and had an unexpectedly early visitor...

Spoiler: Knock, knock... (click to show/hide)

Me:  :o

Fortunately, my berserk kicked in after a couple of punches and I took him down without too much trouble.  :)

I got Vampyre trait in the middle of Military Base; lots of easy healing opportunities via gift-dropping there.  :)

At Phobos Anomaly, I phased past the opening ambush, killed some dudes in the doorway, went berserk and charged the rest.  Then I donned my ballistic armour and closed to point-blank with the bruisers.

Hell's Armory had pretty useless mods, including a firestorm.  (Well, useless for this build, anyway)  Again, I took advantage of the melee protection from the ballistic armour when facing the Shambler.

In the Containment Area, I very nearly screwed up the whole run by narrowly missing an imp with my missile launcher while wall-busting.  This is about the point that I officially abandoned all weapon use of any kind for the rest of the game.  I threw them all away; I just didn't want to risk messing things up after coming this far.

City of Skulls was when I got Badass 2.  Lots of lost souls for healing up to 200%!  Whee!  :D  Sadly, the Agony Elemental failed to drop any hatred skulls.  Boo!  :(

I took a suit of power-modded blue armour into the Spider's Lair and charged around punching them all.  They completely melted it, but I didn't have to use a single med pack and thanks to the supercharge, I came out with 200% again!  I think this was the point I really knew the game was in the bag.

Funnily enough, in Unholy Cathedral, the AoD took me down to about 150% health and killing him brought me back up to 200% again!  :)  I don't know why I bothered taking the Scythe with me, since I never ended up using it.

I found Malek's Armour in the Vaults, which normally is a huge boon, but I found it to be less useful than usual, probably because by this point, I'd grown accustomed to using armour that offered melee protection.  Malek's armour kept getting shredded every time I closed to melee range and I had to keep switching away from it.

Limbo was the last level that really provided a challenge.  I burned through several med packs and both blood skulls that I had picked up from CoS.  All that lava made for less room to maneuver, so I got pounded pretty badly whenever I tried to charge my enemies.  Fortunately, all the rewards at the right side of the map remained intact, including the nuclear BFG, supercharges, and med packs.

I got a little worried while fighting JC when I got surrounded by summons and he teleported away, but I managed to find him and he ended up dying more quickly than I expected.

Yay!  12 Diamonds!  :D  Time to update my sig again!  :)

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Tormuse, level 14 Apostle Chaos Major Marine,
 nuked the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
 He survived 236913 turns and scored 250497 points.
 He played for 7 hours, 7 minutes and 20 seconds.
 He wasn't afraid to be hurt plenty.

 He killed 1514 out of 1514 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 11
  Levels completed : 11

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Cyberdemon's Head
  Medal of Prejudice
  Sunrise Iron Fist
  UAC Star (bronze cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Conqueror Badge
  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Hell Champion Medal
  Strongman Gold Badge
  Strongman Platinum Badge
  Strongman Diamond Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 152/80   Experience 91860/14
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +10  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +15

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Ironman          (Level 2)
    Finesse          (Level 1)
    Tough as nails   (Level 2)
    Brute            (Level 5)
    Berserker        (Level 1)
    Badass           (Level 2)
    Vampyre          (Level 1)

  Bru->Bru->Bru->Ber->Bad->MVm->Fin->TaN->Bad->TaN->Iro->Bru->Bru->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Malek's Armor [3/3] (52%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   nothing
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   missile launcher (6d6) [4/4]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] red armor [6/6] (100%) (P)
    [b] nanofiber red armor [2]
    [c] nanofiber phaseshift armor [1]
    [d] Angelic Armor [7/7] (100%)
    [e] Azrael's Scythe (9d9)
    [f] large med-pack
    [g] large med-pack
    [h] large med-pack
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] phase device
    [q] homing phase device
    [r] envirosuit pack
    [s] Enviroboots [0]

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Melee      - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Shrapnel   - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Acid       - internal 85%   torso 95%   feet 85% 
    Fire       - internal 85%   torso 95%   feet 85% 
    Plasma     - internal 60%   torso 90%   feet 60% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    97 former humans
    76 former sergeants
    33 former captains
    123 imps
    42 demons
    838 lost souls
    48 cacodemons
    36 hell knights
    29 barons of hell
    34 arachnotrons
    11 former commandos
    13 pain elementals
    42 revenants
    27 mancubi
    21 arch-viles
    12 nightmare cacodemons
    10 nightmare demons
    5 elite former humans
    5 elite former sergeants
    2 elite former captains
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 lava elemental
    1 agony elemental
    1 Angel of Death
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 John Carmack
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 5 he assembled a grappling boots!
  On level 6 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 7 he marched into the Military Base.
  On level 7 he assembled a ballistic armor!
  He purified his fellow comrades.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory.
  On level 9 he assembled a nanofiber armor!
  On level 9 he assembled a ballistic armor!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 11 he arrived at the Containment Area.
  He emerged from the Containment Area victorious!
  On level 12 he found the City of Skulls.
  He wiped out the City of Skulls.
  On level 14 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 17 he found the Azrael's Scythe!
  He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  On level 19 he found the Malek's Armor!
  He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
  On level 20 he assembled a nanofiber armor!
  On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter Limbo!
  On level 20 he found the Angelic Armor!
  He managed to clear Limbo from evil!
  On level 22 he assembled a grappling boots!
  On level 22 he arrived at Mt. Erebus.
  On level 22 he found the Enviroboots!
  He managed to raise Mt. Erebus completely!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  He overloaded a nuclear BFG 9000 on level 24!
  He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
  Then finally in Hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 need to taste blood!
 You dodge! The missile hits the lost soul. The lost soul dies. The lost soul
 dies. You need to taste blood!
 Unknown command. Press "?" for help.
 You need to taste blood!
 The cacodemon hits you. The cacodemon hits you. You dodge! The missile hits
 the cacodemon. The cacodemon dies. You are hit! The lost soul dies. The
 cacodemon dies. The lost soul dies. You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You hit John Carmack. You're going berserk! The lost soul hits you. The
 cacodemon hits you. John Carmack reloads his rocket launcher. You need to
 taste blood!
 You hit John Carmack. You need to taste blood!
 You hit John Carmack. John Carmack dies. Congratulations! You defeated John
 Carmack! Press <Enter>...
 You feel relatively safe now. You're going berserk!

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 1034 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 779 of those were killed.
 4 of those were killed by something unknown.
 139 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 32 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 80 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 4 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 54 killed the bitch and survived.
 22 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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Re: [H|YAAM/YAFW] Strongman Diamond Conqueror! :D
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2014, 02:53 »

Too stronk.

O.O
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Re: [H|YAAM/YAFW] Strongman Diamond Conqueror! :D
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2014, 08:55 »

Awesome work! I'm *so* glad the game actually registered such an achievement as well!

When you mentioned ballistic armour, were you referring to the assembly, or the exotic? (or both - a ballistic ballistic vest is gorgeous!)

You posted in my strongman thread mentioning that you rarely used fireproof or ballistic armours. I'm guessing using them pushed you into the dizzy heights of strongman conquerer, and while it was nice of you to mention me in your writeup, I only wish I could take credit! I'm in awe!

I'm suspecting that even the mortuary/limbo/spider lair isn't as challenging as the early game (pre-vampyre) - did you find this?
Also, have you ever tried strongman without vampyre? Getting vamp very much seemed to be the turning point of the whole game in my runs, I wonder if strongman is doable without it?

Congrats on your run Torm!
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Re: [H|YAAM/YAFW] Strongman Diamond Conqueror! :D
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2014, 02:51 »

I meant the assembly; I've never assembled a ballistic ballistic vest, but I imagine it would be pretty funny.  :)

And yes, absolutely, the early game was the hardest part;  shortly after I got Vampyre skill, I had more med packs than I knew what to do with.  :)

Without Vampyre, this would be ridiculously hard.  (instead of just very hard)  ;)  A Blademaster build using fists tends not to get kills often enough for it to be really useful, (I've always found the image of a Blademaster using fists to be funny; I guess he swings his fist so fast that it hits multiple enemies)  :P  and the technician master trait uses knives, so you wouldn't be able to get Strongman Diamond...  (perhaps a masterless technician game?)
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Re: [H|YAAM/YAFW] Strongman Diamond Conqueror! :D
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2014, 10:03 »

Actually, I think you could probably get strongman by having a knife in the offhand weapon slot.
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Re: [H|YAAM/YAFW] Strongman Diamond Conqueror! :D
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 12:06 »

I don't think so.  Back in version 0.9.9.4, when I got most of my Diamonds, there was an exploit where you could get Juggler trait and wield the chainsaw in your prepared slot and as long as your hands were empty, it would count as a fist kill.  Since then, they've corrected that, so I think that if you get malicious blades, and have a knife in your offhand, it will hit with the knife and count as a knife kill.  Maybe I'll do a speedrun on ITYTD later to test that.  :)
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Re: [H|YAAM/YAFW] Strongman Diamond Conqueror! :D
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2014, 22:52 »

Actually, I think you could probably get strongman by having a knife in the offhand weapon slot.

It turns out you're right  :D  (Wasn't much of a speed-run, but it proved the point)  :)
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Re: [H|YAAM/YAFW] Strongman Diamond Conqueror! :D
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2014, 08:56 »

Thanks for making me feel like I know what I'm talking about. ;)
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Re: [H|YAAM/YAFW] Strongman Diamond Conqueror! :D
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2014, 17:51 »

Sylph is like our ninja DoomRL expert.  Quiet, unassuming, but when Sylph speaks, woah.  It makes sense.

Unlike me, always trying to nerf this, nerf that, and nerf everything else.
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Re: [H|YAAM/YAFW] Strongman Diamond Conqueror! :D
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2014, 06:18 »

Would that make you the nerf ninja?  :P
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Re: [H|YAAM/YAFW] Strongman Diamond Conqueror! :D
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2014, 20:28 »

Sylph is like our ninja DoomRL expert.  Quiet, unassuming, but when Sylph speaks, woah.  It makes sense.
Aww, what a lovely thing to say!
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