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Only played this for a weekish now, some praises/questions
LuckyDee:
@Ghaleon: Well, like I said earlier, it looks like you won't find your questions going unanswered. I think it's time to take this to the next level and start showing us a mortem or two...
Sylph:
--- Quote from: ZicherCZ on February 24, 2014, 06:27 ---Deimos Lab, on the other hand, seems almost impossible to do damageless to me - two Shamblers and the cover-depraved layout of the central chamber makes the final battle a much more daunting task.
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The cover situation isn't as bad as all that, provided you don't break open all the destructible crates until after you've finished the shamblers!
Ghaleon:
--- Quote from: LuckyDee on February 24, 2014, 09:52 ---@Ghaleon: Well, like I said earlier, it looks like you won't find your questions going unanswered. I think it's time to take this to the next level and start showing us a mortem or two...
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I'll give you my most recent victory...and my most recent shameful defeat (Military base of all things, I was near the end where you get the mod, large health orb, combat shotgun and whatever, and there was nothing left but an elite captain. I had 50% health left, and never, have I ever seen elite captains pose any threat whatsoever... AND he was really far away, so I just carelessly reloaded knowing he might move and shoot me during that time (I didn't have reloader and I was dual gunning so reloading takes awhile).. but no matter, I had green armor, they only use peashooter miniguns, and he was far away, he'd miss most of the time, and when he didn't. I had 25% bullet resist right?
WELL HE HAD A LAZOR GUN MOFO *pewpewpew* *dies instantly*...
I didn't know they sometimes carted around laser guns... *cries*..
anyway, I'll post em up here as soon as I figure out HOW... reading the post mortem forum rules and it's all in imp scratch.
edit:
Here the are (they don't have to be int he mortem subforum if I'm not trying to show em off or anything do they?
Note it looks like I had a bunch of failed games, yeah I failed some, but most of those fails are at like floor 1 me just goofing around experimenting with dodging and stuff, not to mention a few caused by me not understanding how cover worked (grr at that newbie guide was so misleading when it had no pictures working!).
and I had like 3 deaths caused by me trying the 100 floor challenge, and spawning RIGHT NEXT TO like effing 2 hungry demons in the open with no doors to hide behind or barrels to save me right in the first room. how dumb is that... is there anything you can do about that?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)-- Ghaleon's most recent win ---
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DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Ghaleon, level 14 Imp Sergeant Major Marine,
nuked the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
He survived 201248 turns and scored 236370 points.
He played for 4 hours, 4 minutes and 58 seconds.
He wasn't afraid to be hurt plenty.
He killed 990 out of 990 hellspawn. (100%)
This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
He saved himself once.
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 11
Levels visited : 10
Levels completed : 10
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Medal of Prejudice
UAC Star (silver cluster)
Grim Reaper's Badge
Hell Armorer Badge
Hell Champion Medal
Armorer Silver Badge
UAC Silver Badge
Veteran Silver Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 95/60 Experience 85509/14
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +0 ToDmg Ranged +2 ToDmg Melee +2
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Marine
Finesse (Level 2)
Hellrunner (Level 2)
Son of a bitch (Level 2)
Reloader (Level 2)
Juggler (Level 1)
Whizkid (Level 2)
Triggerhappy (Level 2)
Ammochain (Level 1)
Fin->Jug->Rel->Rel->SoB->SoB->TH->TH->MAc->Fin->WK->WK->HR->HR->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] Lava Armor [4/4] (96%)
[b] [ Weapon ] high power plasma rifle (1d9)x6 [11/26]
[c] [ Boots ] tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] nuclear BFG 9000 (8d6) [20/40]
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] combat shotgun (7d3) [5/5]
[b] VBFG9000 (10d8) [30/150] (T1)
[c] tactical armor [0/0] (100%)
[d] fireproof red armor [4/4] (61%)
[e] Angelic Armor [7/7] (100%)
[f] shotgun shell (x32)
[g] power cell (x70)
[h] power cell (x3)
[i] large med-pack
[j] large med-pack
[k] large med-pack
[l] large med-pack
[m] envirosuit pack
[n] agility mod pack
[o] agility mod pack
[p] bulk mod pack
[q] lava element
[r] fireproof plasteel boots [2/2] (62%)
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
Fire - internal 0% torso 75% feet 0%
Plasma - internal 0% torso 50% feet 0%
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
93 former humans
100 former sergeants
29 former captains
146 imps
59 demons
286 lost souls
40 cacodemons
41 hell knights
46 barons of hell
32 arachnotrons
21 former commandos
21 pain elementals
23 revenants
19 mancubi
13 arch-viles
5 elite former humans
5 elite former sergeants
2 elite former captains
2 bruiser brothers
1 shambler
1 lava elemental
1 agony elemental
1 Cyberdemon
1 Spider Mastermind
1 John Carmack
1 Arena Master
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
He left the Arena as a champion!
On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
On level 7 he marched into the Military Base.
On level 7 he assembled a tactical boots!
He purified his fellow comrades.
On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
On level 8 he assembled a fireproof armor!
On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory.
On level 9 he assembled a high power weapon!
On level 9 he assembled a tactical armor!
He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
On level 11 he arrived at the Containment Area.
He emerged from the Containment Area victorious!
On level 12 he romped upon the Abyssal Plains.
He slaughtered the beasts living there.
On level 14 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
On level 20 he assembled a VBFG9000!
On level 20 he assembled a fireproof boots!
On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
On level 20 he found the Angelic Armor!
On level 20 he assembled a fireproof armor!
He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
On level 22 he assembled a fireproof boots!
On level 22 he entered the Lava Pits.
On level 22 he found the Lava Armor!
He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
Then at last he found Dis!
He nuked level 24!
He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
Then finally in Hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
You swap your weapons instantly!
The missile hits the baron of hell. You hear the scream of a freed soul! The
baron of hell dies. The baron of hell dies. The baron of hell dies.
You wear/wield : a nuclear BFG 9000 (8d6) [14/40]
You swap your weapons instantly!
The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile
hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John
Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack.
The missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell. The
missile hits the baron of hell. The missile hits the baron of hell. The baron
of hell dies.
The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile
hits John Carmack. John Carmack dies. Congratulations! You defeated John
Carmack! Press <Enter>...
You feel relatively safe now.
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
18 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
15 of those were killed.
3 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
2 killed the bitch and survived.
1 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.
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And my shameful death
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Ghaleon, level 6 Imp Sergeant Major Scout,
was perforated by an elite captain on level 7 of the Phobos base.
He survived 82593 turns and scored 32990 points.
He played for 59 minutes and 36 seconds.
He wasn't afraid to be hurt plenty.
He killed 289 out of 298 hellspawn. (96%)
He held his right to remain violent.
He was an Angel of Marksmanship!
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 11
Levels visited : 3
Levels completed : 2
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Hell Champion Medal
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 0/50 Experience 14060/6
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +0 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +0
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Scout
Son of a gun (Level 3)
Dualgunner (Level 1)
Intuition (Level 2)
SoG->SoG->DG->Int->Int->SoG->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] nothing
[b] [ Weapon ] pistol (2d4) [6/6]
[c] [ Boots ] steel boots [1/1] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] pistol (2d4) [6/6]
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] blue armor [2/2] (88%)
[b] 10mm ammo (x100)
[c] 10mm ammo (x100)
[d] 10mm ammo (x100)
[e] 10mm ammo (x100)
[f] 10mm ammo (x72)
[g] 10mm ammo (x100)
[h] 10mm ammo (x100)
[i] power cell (x50)
[j] power cell (x50)
[k] small med-pack
[l] small med-pack
[m] large med-pack
[n] large med-pack
[o] large med-pack
[p] large med-pack
[q] envirosuit pack
[r] power mod pack
[s] technical mod pack
[t] agility mod pack
[u] bulk mod pack
[v] Arena Master's Staff
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
None
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
97 former humans
35 former sergeants
11 former captains
59 imps
29 demons
33 lost souls
5 cacodemons
10 hell knights
4 elite former humans
4 elite former sergeants
1 elite former captain
1 Arena Master
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
He left the Arena as a champion!
On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
On level 7 he marched into the Military Base.
On level 7 he finally was perforated by an elite captain.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
sergeant.
The missile hits the elite former sergeant. The missile hits the elite former
sergeant.
The missile hits the elite former sergeant. The elite former sergeant dies.
You dualreload your guns!
The missile hits the former human. The missile hits the former human. The
former human dies.
You dualreload your guns! Boom!
The missile hits the former human. The missile hits the former human. The
former human dies.
You dualreload your guns!
There is 10mm ammo (x24) lying here.
You found 24 of 10mm ammo.
You dualreload your guns! You are hit! Your green armor is completely
destroyed! Boom! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are
hit! You die!... Press <Enter>...
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
20 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
17 of those were killed.
3 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
2 killed the bitch and survived.
1 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.
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LuckyDee:
Well, there you have another important lesson: just don't reload when in plain sight of something :) If you run for cover it'll chase you anyway.
--- Quote from: Ghaleon on February 24, 2014, 18:58 ---Here the are (they don't have to be int he mortem subforum if I'm not trying to show em off or anything do they?
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I was actually trying to encourage you to move away from this topic and into uncharted territory, but that's alright. Mortems in other discussions are just fine if they serve to illustrate a point, otherwise if it's worth posting it's worth posting on the mortem board.
--- Quote from: Ghaleon on February 24, 2014, 18:58 ---Note it looks like I had a bunch of failed games, yeah I failed some, but most of those fails are at like floor 1 me just goofing around experimenting with dodging and stuff, not to mention a few caused by me not understanding how cover worked (grr at that newbie guide was so misleading when it had no pictures working!).
--- End quote ---
Pah, just have a look at the win/loss ratio under most mortems. This game expects you to die. A lot. Really. A lot.
--- Quote from: Ghaleon on February 24, 2014, 18:58 ---and I had like 3 deaths caused by me trying the 100 floor challenge, and spawning RIGHT NEXT TO like effing 2 hungry demons in the open with no doors to hide behind or barrels to save me right in the first room. how dumb is that... is there anything you can do about that?
--- End quote ---
Run like Hell the wind. Unless you can take em out right away (there's always a slight delay at the start of a level before the enemies begin to move), retreat. This may well take you out of the frying pan and into the fire, but hey... living on the edge!
ZicherCZ:
--- Quote from: Ghaleon on February 24, 2014, 18:58 ---WELL HE HAD A LAZOR GUN MOFO *pewpewpew* *dies instantly*...
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Just wait until you meet elite former _commandos_ ...
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