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Difficulty rating of achieving badges/medals
« on: September 09, 2014, 04:23 »

Here I'm going to give ratings about difficulty of achieving each badge and medal,
based on my experiences of success and failures, to help beginners who want to know what badge/medals are easy to get or not.

I'll give three factors on each rating (1~30):

Skill : Evaluates how much skills are required.
1 - Even the very beginners can do this with no difficulty.
5 - Some basic combat skills (like cornering and radar shooting) are needed in their basic levels.
10 - Level beyond mediocre players. These are for those who mastered basic skills and knowledge.
15 - Almost everyone would admit that someone who can do this is an expert on this game.
20 - Super-expert level, and considered as almost-impossible achievements.
30 - Level of "Impossible". Someone who do this would be likely to suspected as a cheater.

Luck : Evaluates just how much luck is required. (1~30)

Grind : Evaluates how much time and grind is needed. (1~30)


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Bronze Badges

Technician Bronze - Discover an assembly
Skill 1 / Luck 1 / Grind 1

Armorer Bronze - Discover 10 exotics/uniques
Skill 2 / Luck 1 / Grind 4

Heroic Bronze - Receive 8 unique medals
Skill 5 / Luck 3 / Grind 6

Gatekeeper Bronze - Clear Phobos Anomaly
Skill 2 / Luck 1 / Grind 1

UAC Bronze - Win standard game
Skill 3 / Luck 2 / Grind 2

Veteran Bronze - Win standard game with 100% kills
Skill 4 / Luck 2 / Grind 3

Strongman Bronze - Win standard game using melee weapons
Skill 7 / Luck 4 / Grind 2

Speedrunner Bronze - Win standard game under 30 minutes
Skill 4 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Lava Bronze - Clear Mt. Erebus/Lava Pits
Skill 3 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Reaper Bronze - Enter the Mortuary/Limbo
Skill 6 / Luck 1 / Grind 1

Brick Bronze - Clear The Wall/Containment Area
Skill 2 / Luck 1 / Grind 1

Skull Bronze - Clear City of Skulls/Abyssal Plains
Skill 2 / Luck 1 / Grind 1

Berserker Bronze - Reach Level 9 on Angel of Berserk
Skill 7 / Luck 3 / Grind 1

Marksman Bronze - Reach Level 16 on Angel of Marksmanship
Skill 9 / Luck 3 / Grind 1

Shottyman Bronze - Reach Level 16 on Angel of Shotgunnery
Skill 7 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Lightfoot Bronze - Reach Level 9 on Angel of Light Travel
Skill 7 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Eagerness Bronze - Reach Level 9 on Angel of Impatience
Skill 8 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Daredevil Bronze - Reach Level 9 on Angel of Confidence
Skill 7 / Luck 4 / Grind 1

Quartermaster Bronze - Reach Level 9 on Angel of Red Alert
Skill 8 / Luck 4 / Grind 1

Hunter Bronze - Reach Level 9 on Angel of Darkness
Skill 8 / Luck 3 / Grind 1

Destroyer Bronze - Reach Level 16 on Angel of Max Carnage
Skill 7 / Luck 3 / Grind 1

Centurial Bronze - Reach Level 16 on Angel of 100
Skill 7 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Pacifist Bronze - Reach Level 16 on Angel of Pacifism
Skill 8 / Luck 4 / Grind 1

Arena Bronze - Clear Hell's Arena
Skill 2 / Luck 1 / Grind 1

Arachno Bronze - Clear Spider's Lair
Skill 3 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Scavenger Bronze - Enter the Vaults
Skill 6 / Luck 1 / Grind 1



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Silver Badges

Technician Silver - Discover an advanced assembly
Skill 2 / Luck 1 / Grind 1

Armorer Silver - Discover 30 exotics/uniques
Skill 3 / Luck 2 / Grind 6

Heroic Silver - Receive 16 unique medals
Skill 8 / Luck 7 / Grind 8

Gatekeeper Silver - Clear Phobos Anomaly without taking any damage
Skill 3 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

UAC Silver - Win standard game on Hurt Me Plenty
Skill 10 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Veteran Silver - Win standard game on Hurt Me Plenty with 100% kills
Skill 11 / Luck 3 / Grind 3

Strongman Silver - Win standard game using knives/fists
Skill 8 / Luck 5 / Grind 2

Speedrunner Silver - Win standard game on Hey, Not too Rough under 25 minutes
Skill 8 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Lava Silver - Clear Mt. Erebus/Lava Pits on Angel of Impatience
Skill 9 / Luck 3 / Grind 1

Reaper Silver - Enter the Mortuary/Limbo and exit alive
Skill 7 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Brick Silver - Clear The Wall/Containment Area on Angel of Berserk/Marksmanship/Shotgunnery
Skill 8 / Luck 5 / Grind 1

Skull Silver - Clear City of Skulls/Abyssal Plains on Angel of Red Alert
Skill 8 / Luck 4 / Grind 1

Berserker Silver - Clear Angel of Berserk
Skill 9 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Marksman Silver - Clear Angel of Marksmanship
Skill 10 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Shottyman Silver - Clear Angel of Shotgunnery
Skill 8 / Luck 2 / Grind 2

Lightfoot Silver - Clear Angel of Light Travel
Skill 9 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Eagerness Silver - Clear Angel of Impatience
Skill 10 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Daredevil Silver - Clear Angel of Confidence
Skill 8 / Luck 4 / Grind 2

Quartermaster Silver - Clear Angel of Red Alert
Skill 9 / Luck 4 / Grind 2

Hunter Silver - Clear Angel of Darkness
Skill 10 / Luck 4 / Grind 2

Destroyer Silver - Clear Angel of Max Carnage
Skill 8 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Centurial Silver - Reach Level 51 on Angel of 100
Skill 8 / Luck 2 / Grind 3

Pacifist Silver - Clear Angel of Pacifism
Skill 9 / Luck 5 / Grind 1

Arena Silver - Clear Hell's Arena on Ultra-Violence
Skill 7 / Luck 1 / Grind 1

Arachno Silver - Clear Spider's Lair on Angel of Darkness
Skill 9 / Luck 4 / Grind 1

Scavenger Silver - Scavenge the Vaults
Skill 7 / Luck 1 / Grind 1


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Gold Badges

Technician Gold - Discover all basic assemblies
Skill 3 / Luck 4 / Grind 7

Armorer Gold - Discover all exotics/uniques
Skill 4 / Luck 17 / Grind 13

Heroic Gold - Receive 24 unique medals
Skill 13 / Luck 8 / Grind 11

Gatekeeper Gold - Clear Tower of Babel on Hey, Not too Rough without taking any damage
Skill 7 / Luck 3 / Grind 1

UAC Gold - Win standard game on Ultra-Violence
Skill 13 / Luck 5 / Grind 3

Veteran Gold - Win standard game on Ultra-Violence with 100% kills
Skill 14 / Luck 5 / Grind 4

Strongman Gold - Win standard game using on Hurt Me Plenty with knives/fists
Skill 15 / Luck 6 / Grind 3

Speedrunner Gold - Win standard game on Hurt Me Plenty under 20 minutes
Skill 11 / Luck 5 / Grind 3

Reaper Gold - Clear the Mortuary/Limbo
Skill 8 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Berserker Gold - Clear Angel of Berserk on Hurt Me Plenty
Skill 12 / Luck 5 / Grind 3

Marksman Gold - Clear Angel of Marksmanship on Ultra-Violence
Skill 16 / Luck 6 / Grind 3

Shottyman Gold - Clear Angel of Shotgunnery on Ultra-Violence
Skill 14 / Luck 5 / Grind 3

Lightfoot Gold - Clear Angel of Light Travel on Hurt Me Plenty
Skill 12 / Luck 4 / Grind 3

Eagerness Gold - Clear Angel of Impatience on Hurt Me Plenty
Skill 13 / Luck 4 / Grind 3

Inquisitor Gold - Clear Angel of Purity
Skill 11 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Quartermaster Gold - Clear Angel of Red Alert with 100% kills
Skill 11 / Luck 6 / Grind 3

Hunter Gold - Clear Angel of Darkness on Hurt Me Plenty with 80+% kills
Skill 14 / Luck 5 / Grind 3

Destroyer Gold - Clear Angel of Max Carnage on Hurt Me Plenty with Untouchable Badge
Skill 12 / Luck 4 / Grind 3

Masochist Gold - Clear Angel of Masochism
Skill 11 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Centurial Gold - Clear Angel of 100
Skill 9 / Luck 3 / Grind 5

Pacifist Gold - Clear Angel of Pacifism under 10 minutes
Skill 10 / Luck 7 / Grind 2

Everyman Gold - Clear Angel of Humanity
Skill 14 / Luck 7 / Grind 2

Daredevil Gold - Clear Angel of Overconfidence
Skill 8 / Luck 7 / Grind 2

Arena Gold - Clear Hell's Arena on Ultra-Violence on Angel of Marksmanship
Skill 9 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Longinus Gold - Clear Unholy Cathedral
Skill 8 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Scavenger Gold - Clear the Vaults
Skill 8 / Luck 1 / Grind 1



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Platinum Badges

Technician Platinum - Discover all advanced assemblies
Skill 3 / Luck 4 / Grind 8

Armorer Platinum - Discover 1000 exotics/uniques
Skill 5 / Luck 3 / Grind 20

Heroic Platinum - Receive 32 unique medals
Skill 16 / Luck 10 / Grind 15

Gatekeeper Platinum - Pass Phobos Anomaly on Nightmare! without taking any damage
Skill 13 / Luck 9 / Grind 4

UAC Platinum - Win standard game on Nightmare!
Skill 17 / Luck 8 / Grind 4

Veteran Platinum - Fully win on Ultra-Violence
Skill 14 / Luck 6 / Grind 4

Strongman Platinum - Win standard game using on Hurt Me Plenty with fists
Skill 16 / Luck 8 / Grind 4

Elite Platinum - Win standard game on Ultra-Violence with Conqueror
Skill 15 / Luck 6 / Grind 5

Demonic Platinum - Win standard game on Nightmare! with Explorer
Skill 18 / Luck 8 / Grind 5

Reaper Platinum - Clear the Mortuary/Limbo on Nightmare!
Skill 16 / Luck 6 / Grind 2

Berserker Platinum - Clear Angel of Berserk on Ultra-Violence with 75+% kills
Skill 16 / Luck 8 / Grind 4

Marksman Platinum - Clear Angel of Marksmanship on Ultra-Violence with 100% kills
Skill 17 / Luck 6 / Grind 4

Shottyman Platinum - Clear Angel of Shotgunnery on Nightmare!
Skill 18 / Luck 8 / Grind 4

Lightfoot Platinum - Clear Angel of Light Travel on Ultra-Violence under 2000 turns
Skill 16 / Luck 6 / Grind 4

Eagerness Platinum - Clear Angel of Impatience on Ultra-Violence as non-Marine
Skill 17 / Luck 6 / Grind 4

Daredevil Platinum - Clear Angel of Confidence on Ultra-Violence with 100% kills
Skill 15 / Luck 6 / Grind 4

Inquisitor Platinum - Clear Angel of Purity on Ultra-Violence
Skill 17 / Luck 7 / Grind 3

Quartermaster Platinum - Clear Angel of Red Alert on Nightmare!
Skill 19 / Luck 10 / Grind 4

Hunter Platinum - Clear Angel of Darkness on Nightmare!
Skill 19 / Luck 9 / Grind 4

Destroyer Platinum - Clear Angel of Max Carnage on Ultra-Violence with Untouchable Medal
Skill 16 / Luck 7 / Grind 4

Masochist Platinum - Clear Angel of Masochism on Hurt Me Plenty without Badass
Skill 15 / Luck 4 / Grind 3

Centurial Platinum - Clear Angel of 100 on Ultra-Violence
Skill 15 / Luck 7 / Grind 5

Everyman Platinum - Clear Angel of Humanity with Conqueror
Skill 16 / Luck 10 / Grind 5

Arena Platinum - Clear Hell's Arena on Nightmare!
Skill 13 / Luck 4 / Grind 2

Longinus Platinum - Clear Unholy Cathedral on Nightmare!
Skill 15 / Luck 4 / Grind 2

Scavenger Platinum - Clear the Vaults without using Arena Master's Staff
Skill 9 / Luck 6 / Grind 1


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Diamond Badges

Technician Diamond - Discover all assemblies
Skill 4 / Luck 6 / Grind 10

Armorer Diamond - Discover 3 of each exotics/uniques
Skill 5 / Luck 18 / Grind 17

Heroic Diamond - Receive all medals
Skill 20 / Luck 19 / Grind 21

Gatekeeper Diamond - Clear Phobos Anomaly + Tower of Babel on Ultra-Violence without taking any damage
Skill 14 / Luck 7 / Grind 3

UAC Diamond - Win standard game on Nightmare! under 20 minutes
Skill 18 / Luck 10 / Grind 4

Veteran Diamond - Fully win on Nightmare!
Skill 18 / Luck 9 / Grind 5

Strongman Diamond - Win standard game using on Hurt Me Plenty with fists with 100% kills
Skill 17 / Luck 9 / Grind 5

Elite Diamond - Win standard game on Nightmare! with 90+% kills
Skill 18 / Luck 10 / Grind 6

Demonic Diamond - Win standard game on Nightmare! with Untouchable Medal
Skill 22 / Luck 11 / Grind 5

Reaper Diamond - Clear the Mortuary/Limbo on Nightmare! on Angel of Confidence
Skill 17 / Luck 7 / Grind 2

Berserker Diamond - Clear Angel of Berserk on Nightmare! with 60+% kills
Skill 21 / Luck 12 / Grind 5

Marksman Diamond - Clear Angel of Marksmanship on Nightmare!
Skill 20 / Luck 10 / Grind 5

Shottyman Diamond - Clear Angel of Shotgunnery on Nightmare! with 80+% kills
Skill 19 / Luck 8 / Grind 5

Lightfoot Diamond - Clear Angel of Light Travel on Nightmare! without melee kills
Skill 20 / Luck 9 / Grind 4

Eagerness Diamond - Clear Angel of Impatience on Nightmare! as Technician
Skill 22 / Luck 10 / Grind 4

Inquisitor Diamond - Clear Angel of Purity on Nightmare! as Marine
Skill 22 / Luck 9 / Grind 4

Quartermaster Diamond - Clear Angel of Red Alert on Ultra-Violence with 100% kills
Skill 20 / Luck 11 / Grind 4

Hunter Diamond - Clear Angel of Darkness on Nightmare! with Explorer
Skill 20 / Luck 10 / Grind 4

Destroyer Diamond - Clear Angel of Max Carnage on Nightmare! with Untouchable Cross
Skill 26 / Luck 15 / Grind 7 (Without mixing Angel of Confidence/Overconfidence)

Masochist Diamond - Clear Angel of Masochism on Nightmare! without Ironman/Badass
Skill 22 / Luck 9 / Grind 4

Centurial Diamond - Clear Angel of 100 on Nightmare!
Skill 20 / Luck 11 / Grind 7

Everyman Diamond - Clear Angel of Humanity on Ultra-Violence with Conqueror
Skill 23 / Luck 13 / Grind 6

Daredevil Diamond - Clear Angel of Overconfidence on Nightmare! with 80+% kills
Skill 18 / Luck 12 / Grind 4

Arena Diamond - Clear Hell's Arena on Nightmare! on Angel of Berserk
Skill 19 / Luck 14 / Grind 6

Longinus Diamond - Clear Unholy Cathedral on Nightmare! without Brute
Skill 16 / Luck 4 / Grind 3

Scavenger Diamond - Clear the Vaults on Ultra-Violence without using Arena Master's Staff
Skill 13 / Luck 7 / Grind 1



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Angelic Badges

UAC Angelic - Win standard game on Nightmare! without taking any damage
Skill 29 / Luck 25 / Grind 22

Veteran Angelic - Fully win on Nightmare! with 100% kills
Skill 22 / Luck 10 / Grind 9

Strongman Angelic - Win standard game using on Nightmare! with fists with 90+% kills
Skill 26 / Luck 18 / Grind 14

Speedrunner Angelic - Win standard game using on Nightmare! under 4 minutes
Skill 24 / Luck 27 / Grind 23

Elite Angelic - Win standard game on Nightmare! with 100% kills with Conqueror
Skill 23 / Luck 10 / Grind 10

Demonic Angelic - Win standard game on Nightmare! with 100% kills without taking any damage
Skill 30 / Luck 29 / Grind 28

Berserker Angelic - Clear Angel of Berserk + Angel of Masochism on Nightmare!
Skill 27 / Luck 13 / Grind 6

Marksman Angelic - Clear Angel of Marksmanship + Angel of Darkness on Nightmare! with 50+% kills
Skill 25 / Luck 12 / Grind 6

Shottyman Angelic - Clear Angel of Shotgunnery + Angel of Overconfidence on Nightmare! with 50+% kills
Skill 20 / Luck 11 / Grind 6

Lightfoot Angelic - Clear Archangel of Light Travel on Nightmare! without melee kills
Skill 23 / Luck 12 / Grind 5

Eagerness Angelic - Clear Angel of Impatience + Angel of Red Alert on Nightmare! with 90+% kills
Skill 27 / Luck 15 / Grind 8

Inquisitor Angelic - Clear Angel of Purity + Angel of Red Alert on Nightmare!
Skill 25 / Luck 13 / Grind 7

Quartermaster Angelic - Clear Archangel of Red Alert on Ultra-Violence with 80+% kills
Skill 23 / Luck 14 / Grind 7

Masochist Angelic - Clear Archangel of Masochism on Nightmare!
Skill 28 / Luck 15 / Grind 6

Centurial Angelic - Clear Archangel of 666 on Nightmare!
Skill 22 / Luck 14 / Grind 15

Pacifism Angelic - Clear Archangel of Pacifism on Nightmare! with 1 kills
Skill 24 / Luck 30 / Grind 30

Everyman Angelic - Clear Archangel of Humanity on Nightmare!
Skill 28 / Luck 20 / Grind 15



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Medals

Cyberdemon's head - Clear Tower of Babel without taking any damage
Skill 5 / Luck 3 / Grind 1

Mastermind's Brain - Clear Dis without taking any damage
Skill 6 / Luck 3 / Grind 1

Medal of Prejudice - Clear the game with 100% kills
Skill 4 / Luck 2 / Grind 3

UAC Star (Bronze cluster) - 25 kills without taking any damage
Skill 3 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

UAC Star (Silver cluster) - 50 kills without taking any damage
Skill 5 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

UAC Star (Gold cluster) - 100 kills without taking any damage
Skill 11 / Luck 4 / Grind 1

Minor Icarus Cross - Clear the game under 40000 turns
Skill 4 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Minor Icarus Cross - Clear the game under 20000 turns
Skill 10 / Luck 5 / Grind 2

Gambler's Shield - Clear the game with pulling 25+ levers
Skill 3 / Luck 12 / Grind 4

Aurora Medallion - Clear the game with finding 3+ uniques
Skill 3 / Luck 7 / Grind 2

Explorer Badge - Visit all generated levels
Skill 3 / Luck 1 / Grind 2

Conqueror Badge - Clear all generated levels
Skill 5 / Luck 2 / Grind 3

Compet-N Silver Cross - Clear the game under 30 minutes
Skill 4 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Compet-N Gold Cross - Clear the game under 20 minutes
Skill 7 / Luck 4 / Grind 2

Compet-N Platinum Cross - Clear the game under 10 minutes
Skill 13 / Luck 7 / Grind 2

Untouchable Badge - Clear the game taking less than 500 damage
Skill 5 / Luck 3 / Grind 2

Experience Medal - Reach Level 20
Skill 8 / Luck 3 / Grind 4

Experience Cross - Reach Level 25
Skill 9 / Luck 4 / Grind 8

Grammaton Cleric Cross - Kill Spider Mastermind with Grammaton Cleric Beretta
Skill 3 / Luck 8 / Grind 2

Malicious Knives Cross - Win the game using knives/fists
Skill 8 / Luck 5 / Grind 2

Sunrise Iron Fist - Win the game using fists
Skill 9 / Luck 6 / Grind 2

Fallout Gold Cross - Nuke 3+ levels
Skill 3 / Luck 8 / Grind 2

Fallout Platinum Cross - Nuke 6+ levels
Skill 3 / Luck 14 / Grind 3

Iron Skull - Take 10000+ damage
Skill 3 / Luck 3 / Grind 9

Untouchable Medal - Clear the game taking less than 200 damage
Skill 7 / Luck 4 / Grind 2

Untouchable Cross - Clear the game taking less than 50 damage
Skill 13 / Luck 6 / Grind 2

Grim Reaper's Badge - Clear the Mortuary/Limbo
Skill 8 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Angelic Badge - Clear the Mortuary/Limbo without taking any damage
Skill 10 / Luck 3 / Grind 1

Hell Armorer Badge - Clear Hell's Armory/Deimos Lab
Skill 6 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Shambler's Head - Clear Hell's Armory/Deimos Lab without taking any damage
Skill 8 / Luck 3 / Grind 1

Every Soldier's Medal - Clear the Wall/Containment Area on Angel of Humanity
Skill 9 / Luck 4 / Grind 1

Gargulec Medal - Win Angel of Berserk with 100% kiills
Skill 10 / Luck 3 / Grind 3

Gargulec Cross - Win Angel of Berserk on Ultra-Violence with 100% kiills
Skill 17 / Luck 8 / Grind 5

Dervis' Medallion - Clear Angel of 100 on Nightmare!
Skill 20 / Luck 11 / Grind 7

Thomas's Medal - Clear Angel of Humanity with Conqueror
Skill 16 / Luck 10 / Grind 5

Chessmaster's Token - Clear Hell's Arena on Ultra-Violence on Angel of Masochism/Impatience
Skill 9 / Luck 2 / Grind 1

Chessmaster's Cross - Clear Hell's Arena on Nightmare! on Angel of Masochism/Impatience
Skill 16 / Luck 5 / Grind 2

Hell Champion Medal - Clear Hell's Arena
Skill 2 / Luck 1 / Grind 1

Hell Arena Key - Clear Hell's Arena without taking any damage
Skill 3 / Luck 1 / Grind 1

Hell Arena Pwnage Medal - Clear Hell's Arena on Nightmare! without taking any damage
Skill 16 / Luck 6 / Grind 2

Spider-Killer's Cross - Clear Spider's Lair on Angel of Humanity
Skill 11 / Luck 5 / Grind 1

Gutt's Heart - Kill Spider Mastermind with Dragonslayer
Skill 3 / Luck 17 / Grind 4

Apostle Insignia - Kill Apostle
Skill 29 / Luck 26 / Grind 3 (If you try to do this by guaranteed DS+BA)
or
Skill 6 / Luck 22 / Grind 3 (If you try to do this by normal-generated DS+BA on standard game)
or
Skill 11 / Luck 8 / Grind 20 (If you try to do this by normal-generated DS+BA on ArchAo666)










These ratings are just in my standards, so may not be quite accurate, but I think like this.

Any questions and opinions will be welcomed.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 22:54 by papilio »
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Re: Difficulty rating of achieving badges/medals
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2014, 09:40 »

Nice bit of research there, but are you taking "secrets" into account as well? Assembly recipes? The Dragonslayer situation? The Vaults? etc etc
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Re: Difficulty rating of achieving badges/medals
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2014, 18:45 »

Very nice list!  :)  I'll have to look over it in more detail when I get home from work, but I think I have suggestions for a few changes here and there.

I'm intrigued by the ones you ranked at 19 and 20.  Sounds like a challenge to me!  :D
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Re: Difficulty rating of achieving badges/medals
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2014, 21:55 »

Nice bit of research there, but are you taking "secrets" into account as well? Assembly recipes? The Dragonslayer situation? The Vaults? etc etc


You can get assembly recipes via schematics on Hell's Armory.
One can easily get all of assembly recipes if he do Hell's Armory again and again.

About Dragonslayer, the requirements are rated as "Grind" and "Luck".

What do you mean about the Vaults?
I just used 6 phase devices+1 homing phase device to get Scavenger Platinum/Diamond.
Is there any other way to clear there without Arena Staff?
Is there any other secrets about Vaults that I don't know...?
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Re: Difficulty rating of achieving badges/medals
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2014, 21:58 »

Very nice list!  :)  I'll have to look over it in more detail when I get home from work, but I think I have suggestions for a few changes here and there.

I'm intrigued by the ones you ranked at 19 and 20.  Sounds like a challenge to me!  :D


I think no one would ever able to get 20-marked ones without cheating.
UAC/Demonic/Speedrunner Angelic is just absolutely impossible, at least I think.
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Re: Difficulty rating of achieving badges/medals
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014, 22:56 »

Some comments from me:  (If you don't mind)

I think the Arachno badges are slightly grindy, since you don't always get Spider's Lair, so you might have to play a few games to get it.

Brick Silver requires a fair bit of luck (and probably a fair bit of grind, since you may have to try several times) because you aren't guaranteed to get the equipment you need.  It's possible to get that far in the game without encountering any phase devices and even if you get them, they might not take you to the correct side of the wall.  There are some pistols/shotguns/assemblies that might be able to break down the wall, but those aren't guaranteed either.

I think I would rate Arena Platinum as higher skill.  The Arena is really tough at N! difficulty because as you get into the second and third rounds, the monsters from the previous rounds revive unless you have really good body disposal skills.  (And it's too early in the game to have good equipment or traits for easy body disposal)

Longinus Platinum should probably be higher too.  Of course, the level itself isn't that hard once you get there, assuming you have Berserker trait and a few med packs, but you have to play through 17 levels of N! to get there, which is pretty tough.

Speedrunner badges, especially UAC Diamond, are pretty grindy, since you'll probably have to try many times before you get a lucky enough game to be able to win fast enough.

Arena Diamond is highly grindy; I've tried and failed at that badge a hundred times and the only time I did it was through incredible luck.



Those are the differences in how I would rank these badges, just from a quick skim through of the list.  There are probably more, but those are the ones that stand out the most for me.


I think no one would ever able to get 20-marked ones without cheating.
UAC/Demonic/Speedrunner Angelic is just absolutely impossible, at least I think.


I'm still convinced that Everyman Angelic is doable.  I've failed many, many times, but I think I can do it with a lucky enough game.  Now that I've got some decent recording software set up, I've been trying to record myself doing it and just the other day, I had a game where I got half-way through Deimos!  I might have made it if not for the Cacodemon cave I started in, surrounded by Cacos with no cover.  Some day, I'll get it; mark my words...  :)
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Re: Difficulty rating of achieving badges/medals
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2014, 23:14 »


I think no one would ever able to get 20-marked ones without cheating.
UAC/Demonic/Speedrunner Angelic is just absolutely impossible, at least I think.
Not quite impossible. Here's UAC, Elite, Veteran, and Demonic Angelics in a single run.
Then again, this is 2Dev, perhaps the best DoomRL player ever.
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Re: Difficulty rating of achieving badges/medals
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2014, 23:16 »


Longinus Platinum should probably be higher too.  Of course, the level itself isn't that hard once you get there, assuming you have Berserker trait and a few med packs, but you have to play through 17 levels of N! to get there, which is pretty tough.

Speedrunner badges, especially UAC Diamond, are pretty grindy, since you'll probably have to try many times before you get a lucky enough game to be able to win fast enough.

Arena Diamond is highly grindy; I've tried and failed at that badge a hundred times and the only time I did it was through incredible luck.



Those are the differences in how I would rank these badges, just from a quick skim through of the list.  There are probably more, but those are the ones that stand out the most for me.

I'm still convinced that Everyman Angelic is doable.  I've failed many, many times, but I think I can do it with a lucky enough game.  Now that I've got some decent recording software set up, I've been trying to record myself doing it and just the other day, I had a game where I got half-way through Deimos!  I might have made it if not for the Cacodemon cave I started in, surrounded by Cacos with no cover.  Some day, I'll get it; mark my words...  :)




Are you working on Everyman Angelic? You are the man. I would really wait that video.


For Arena Platinum, yes, doing on with vanilla state is hard,
but with combining Angel of Max Carnage, corpse-stacking becomes much easier.

Doing on Longinus Platinum/Diamond, you can mix Angel of Overconfidence to make it a LOT easier.
Choose Scout, reset over and over again till an inv globe welcomes near you; grab it and kill some enemies and enter UC.
If one got HR2+Fin2, then he would kill Angel of Death without any technical difficulties(If he can endure boredom of stabbing AoD 500+ times).
So I rated it as low score.


UAC Diamond is not such hard challenge,
actually I think it is even easier than clear standard game UV within 20 min (Though there is no badge about it),
because on N!, healing effect and armor shard renovations are doubled.
Picking just two armor shards would fix the red armor perfectly... awesome.
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Re: Difficulty rating of achieving badges/medals
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2014, 23:54 »

What do you mean about the Vaults?
I just used 6 phase devices+1 homing phase device to get Scavenger Platinum/Diamond.
Is there any other way to clear there without Arena Staff?
Is there any other secrets about Vaults that I don't know...?

Well, the Staff is one secret - secret meaning that you won't get the information on how it works in-game. The phase device approach is heavily luck-based, but...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

By the previously defined standard, though, this is of course a secret as well.
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Re: Difficulty rating of achieving badges/medals
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2014, 00:57 »

Are you working on Everyman Angelic? You are the man. I would really wait that video.

Well...  I was planning to wait until I actually achieved it before posting anything, but maybe I'll release a sneak peek of my strategy with my best recorded attempt so far.  :)

(I'm worried that now that I've announced that, you're gonna get it before me; oh well...)  :P

Here's the mortem for it, but you might want to watch the video before looking at the mortem so you can be surprised at how far I got; there were several places where I was sure I was about to die, but somehow, held on longer than expected.  :)

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