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I probably shouldve held on to the berserker armor, just in case. I didnt know DS was a guaranteed drop after YAAM Ao100
If the invuln globe wasnt destroyed by a hell knight on the last level I wouldve tried nuking.
Idk what else to try. The game gives no hints.

I used no medkits from L25 on, and only phase devices to get to the exit faster when I had a powerup going.
I made a bunch of assemblies for completion's sake. Finished with basic assemblies (only nano went to Powered red armor which I used twice when cerberus got to 50%)

I used a VBFG on the cyberdemon that spawned and it was "almost unhurt". scary!

Anyway, first Ao100 win!
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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Ammo100, level 21 Mancubus Captain Marine,
 completed 100 levels of torture on level 100 of Hell.
 He survived 308818 turns and scored 721906 points.
 He played for 5 hours, 4 minutes and 24 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 1885 out of 1885 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
 He was an Angel of 100!

 He saved himself once.

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 0
  Levels visited   : 0
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  UAC Star (gold cluster)
  Experience Medal
  Technician Gold Badge
  Centurial Bronze Badge
  Centurial Silver Badge
  Centurial Gold Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

  ###########################################################
  ......#..............0.....===.0..0=====..................#
  .;....#.....##............=====..#======X.......^.........#
  ^.....#.##..##0.##...##...======.#======.===..............#
  .###..#.##......##.=====##.===.=..=====.=====........===..#
  .###..#.....##.....=====##"=====..#====.=====.......=.\==.#
  .###..#....^##.....=====....====...==========.#..###=====.#
  ......#........##..#====...}=====..=========.....###=====.#
  ###...#....0...##..===#=.%..=====..=========.....####===..#
  ###...#|..##0.......===#....======.}.=======.....#........#
  ###...#...##.0##..##........======..|..====|..............#
  ......#......====.#........======.......%.}|}.........##..#
  #.....#.##.##=====..........====}===......===.............#
  #...../==#=#======..........==.======.%..==.===.##...###..#
  #.....#===========..........===.=====....======...}.####..#
  ......#=====.====.##............=====....=======...|......#
  ...!..#.===.......##.##.........=======...======..........#
  ......#......0.0................========..=====.......0...#
  ......#.........................========..=====..0........#
  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 135/90   Experience 462434/21
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +5  ToDmg Melee +5

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Ironman          (Level 3)
    Finesse          (Level 3)
    Hellrunner       (Level 1)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 5)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Badass           (Level 1)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 2)
    Ammochain        (Level 1)

  SoB->Rel->Rel->SoB->TH->TH->MAc->Fin->Fin->WK->WK->SoB->Bad->SoB->Iro->SoB->HR->Fin->Iro->Jug->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   cerberus duelist armor [2/2] (100%) (P)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   hyperblaster (2d5)x3 [37/40] (P1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   Enviroboots [0]
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nuclear VBFG9000 (8d8) [60/60]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] nuclear BFG 9000 (8d6) [40/40]
    [b] BFG 9000 (10d6) [100/100]
    [c] BFG 10K (6d4)x5 [50/50]
    [d] powered red armor [5/5] (100%)
    [e] homing phase device
    [f] envirosuit pack
    [g] power mod pack
    [h] power mod pack
    [i] technical mod pack
    [j] agility mod pack
    [k] bulk mod pack
    [l] phaseshift boots [4/4] (92%) (T)
    [m] power battery (x28)
    [n] power battery (x120)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   
    Melee      - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   
    Shrapnel   - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   
    Acid       - internal 25%   torso 95%   feet 100%
    Fire       - internal 25%   torso 95%   feet 100%
    Plasma     - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    104 former humans
    174 former sergeants
    198 former captains
    111 imps
    55 demons
    205 lost souls
    34 cacodemons
    40 hell knights
    256 barons of hell
    85 arachnotrons
    6 former commandos
    31 pain elementals
    105 revenants
    143 mancubi
    165 arch-viles
    22 nightmare imps
    37 nightmare cacodemons
    59 nightmare demons
    18 nightmare arachnotrons
    2 nightmare arch-viles
    1 elite former human
    5 elite former captains
    1 elite former commando
    21 bruiser brothers
    4 shamblers
    2 lava elemental
    1 Cyberdemon

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 16 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 20 he stumbled into a complex full of imps!
  On level 28 he found the Enviroboots!
  On level 28 he assembled a hyperblaster!
  On level 31 he found the Berserker Armor!
  On level 31 he assembled a tactical rocket launcher!
  Level 33 blasted him with an unholy atmosphere!
  On level 34 he assembled a cerberus armor!
  On level 38 he found the Shielded Armor!
  On level 42 he was bombarded!
  On level 42 he assembled a burst cannon!
  On level 44 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
  He sounded the alarm on level 45!
  Level 46 blasted him with an unholy atmosphere!
  On level 49 he assembled a VBFG9000!
  On level 50 he assembled a assault rifle!
  On level 52 he stumbled into a complex full of arch-viles!
  On level 53 he stumbled into a complex full of mancubi!
  On level 53 he encountered an armed nuke!
  On level 53 he found the BFG 10K!
  On level 54 he stumbled into a complex full of arch-viles!
  He sounded the alarm on level 56!
  On level 60 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
  On level 62 he encountered an armed nuke!
  On level 62 he found the Hell Staff!
  On level 62 he assembled a power armor!
  He sounded the alarm on level 64!
  Level 69 was a hard nut to crack!
  Level 74 was a hard nut to crack!
  He nuked level 76!
  On level 77, hell froze over!
  He nuked level 77!
  On level 79 he found the Revenant's Launcher!
  Level 90 was a hard nut to crack!
  He nuked level 90!
  On level 92 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
  He sounded the alarm on level 100!
  On level 100 he finally completed 100 levels of torture.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 lying here.
 It's too heavy! No human could ever wield this thing... There is a
 Dragonslayer (9d9) lying here.
 It's too heavy! No human could ever wield this thing... There is a
 Dragonslayer (9d9) lying here.
 You use an envirosuit pack. You feel protected! There is a Dragonslayer (9d9)
 lying here.
 It's too heavy! No human could ever wield this thing... There is a
 Dragonslayer (9d9) lying here.
 You use a phase device. You feel yanked in a non-existing direction!
 You use a homing phase device. You feel yanked in a non-existing direction!
 There are stairs leading downward here.
 You did it! You completed 100 levels of DoomRL! You're the champion! Press
 <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 41 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 24 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 1 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 14 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 5 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 8 killed the bitch and survived.
 1 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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Re: [M|Ao100|100%] Centurial Gold. Dragonslayer "its too heavy :("
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2014, 00:20 »

I know your pain, i remember my first Dragonslayer lying around.. No matter how hard i tried i couldn't get it off the ground. Still, well done on this run. Ao100 can be a bit tricky when setting up a good pair of traits.
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Re: [M|Ao100|100%] Centurial Gold. Dragonslayer "its too heavy :("
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2014, 00:24 »

No, YAAM Ao100 does not give guaranteed DS drop.. it was just your luck.

Guaranteed Dragonslayer drop
-> Play standard game on Nightmare! difficulty, achieve killrate 100% before entering Unholy Cathedral, Clear Unholy Cathedral damageless
(Of course, even after spawning DS, wielding it is another problem)

Guaranteed Berserker Armor drop
-> Play standard game on Nightmare! difficulty, achieve killrate 100% before entering Mortuary/Limbo, wield Dragonslayer by clearing UC w/o damage, clear Mortuary/Limbo damageless

Also, from after wielding DS+BA, nightmare demons will be continuously spawned from everywhere you go (which blocks you from getting 100% killrate)
And if you nuke spider mastermind and survive from the nuke (by lava elemental or inv globe), Apostle will appear instead of John Carmack. You can get Apostle Insignia medal as award for killing it.





And VBFG assembly to nuclear BFG is not a good idea in my opinion.. it's still too weak.

For nuclear BFG, biggest fucking gun assembly makes it extremely useful, but without that, it's not so reliable weapon for most occasions.


« Last Edit: November 04, 2014, 00:33 by papilio »
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Re: [M|Ao100|100%] Centurial Gold. Dragonslayer "its too heavy :("
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2014, 00:35 »

There are 3 requirements for wielding Dragonslayer.

It is prohibited to leak it directly in this forum, but for giving hints,
2 of them is plausible and easy to guess, but last one is extremely dumb and silly. Try something dumbest to lift heavy stuff.
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Re: [M|Ao100|100%] Centurial Gold. Dragonslayer "its too heavy :("
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2014, 08:48 »

Congrats on Centurial Gold!  :)

Guaranteed Dragonslayer drop
-> Play standard game on Nightmare! difficulty, achieve killrate 100% before entering Unholy Cathedral, Clear Unholy Cathedral damageless
(Of course, even after spawning DS, wielding it is another problem)

I have to correct you on that.  I don't know the exact requirements, but I've achieved getting the guaranteed DS to spawn once before, and it doesn't have to be a standard game and you don't have to have 100% killrate before UC.  I suspect that it doesn't have to be damageless either, but perhaps mostly damageless?
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Re: [M|Ao100|100%] Centurial Gold. Dragonslayer "its too heavy :("
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2014, 09:27 »

The reason I thought it was guaranteed was that it dropped on 100. Ugh Idk what anyone means by "do what you would do to lift heavy stuff. I dropped my inventory and tried. I wore powered armor for maybe a strength boost? Lol Idk what the thing to try was.

If Berserker is a required trait then ok, oh well.
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Re: [M|Ao100|100%] Centurial Gold. Dragonslayer "its too heavy :("
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2014, 12:26 »

The reason I thought it was guaranteed was that it dropped on 100. Ugh Idk what anyone means by "do what you would do to lift heavy stuff. I dropped my inventory and tried. I wore powered armor for maybe a strength boost? Lol Idk what the thing to try was.

If Berserker is a required trait then ok, oh well.

Berserker trait isn't required, since you can carry a Dragonslayer using the Malicious Blade trait which blocks Berserker. Correct me if i'm wrong though.
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Re: [M|Ao100|100%] Centurial Gold. Dragonslayer "its too heavy :("
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2014, 12:39 »

Maybe its Brute 5 then? Idk, something like that would make sense as a "increasing your strength" thing.

Since 100% Ao100 apparently isnt a autospawn(?) I can't test tho. I'd get a build going then not find it :P.
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Re: [M|Ao100|100%] Centurial Gold. Dragonslayer "its too heavy :("
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2014, 13:53 »

I'm pretty sure there's no way to guarantee it to spawn in Ao100, but you probably have a better chance of it just by the sheer length of the game.

As for picking it up, I've never done it, but I've read all the clues throughout the forums and I understand that any build should be able to wield it, so you shouldn't need Brute 5 or Berserker trait.  The trouble I have with it is I'm told that the requirements have changed from version to version of this game, or rather there is one base requirement that has always been there and the Devteam adds additional requirements just to confound people who have figured it out before.  So by now, there may be several different requirements and who knows what any of them are?  Even if I correctly guess the original base requirement, I'm not gonna know the rest of the requirements, so the whole thing just seems futile to me.  Personally, I just don't bother with it any more and I just ignore the DS when I see it and forget about it.
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Re: [M|Ao100|100%] Centurial Gold. Dragonslayer "its too heavy :("
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2014, 14:21 »

Personally, I just don't bother with it any more and I just ignore the DS when I see it and forget about it.

Hear, hear...

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Re: [M|Ao100|100%] Centurial Gold. Dragonslayer "its too heavy :("
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2014, 01:33 »

Personally, I just don't bother with it any more and I just ignore the DS when I see it and forget about it.

I hear you man, story of my life. I remember the first time i found it, back in 0.9.9.6 (you would still see the DS as found in you player stats even if you didn't wield it). I got so exited, called my GF and told her all about what the hell this was and what it meant all the while the DS was mocking me from my screen, just lying there waiting to be picked up. Don't think it impressed her though. Anyway.. in 0.9.9.7 i've seen many DSs lying around, just never figured out how to pick it up. I've tried every button on my keyboard as well as every button + shift but no succes so far. :(
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