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The Matter of Splatter
« on: March 07, 2007, 05:24 »

Topic name courtesy of Exhumed.


"The foo dies" and "you hear the screem of a freed soul" seems to me insufficient for a gore/horror game! There's blood on the walls and floors, blood tracks and corpses, but for a death there's hardly a "thump".
Now, with dying screems this is admittedly less of a problem, but since we are discussing implementing aids for the deaf, I think it is certainly in order to add .ini toggled descriptive death messages. I don't think it would be going too far to give a different resulting message for each weapon crossed with each monster/type. In the event that this idea is accepted and that help will be needed, I will immediately begin thinking up descriptions.

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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 06:23 »

since this is going along with my own request for sound substitutes I naturally agree - great idea! :)

I don't know if different sounds for any weapon/monster combo wouldn't be a bit much, but at the very least weapons like RL, BFG should have unique splatter-messages THEHEHEHE 
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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2007, 07:27 »

Acid and lava should also at the very least get different messages.
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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2007, 07:57 »

Okay, so post your suggestions :P.
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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2007, 08:41 »

You hear a scream, followed by a crackling sound! - death by lava (lava = fireish, right?)
You hear a scream, followed by a sizzling sound! - death by acid
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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2007, 13:39 »

Ever blistered badly, or just fried something? Sizzling goes for lava, too :)

Screems are for off-screen kills. I think those should stay as they are, keeping LOS your source of accurate information.
What I'm talking about is "the former human's riddled with bullets", though on a much more graphic level.

I'll start writing down my ideas off-forum, and put them here when I'll have a serious bunch. Expect them within the next 4-5 days.

BTW, if any of you have a Fallout installed with an advanced game in progress, or otherwise have access to the descriptions, if I recall correctly there're some really good lines to draw from. Unreal Tournament goes too, but that I have quick access to and can take care of.

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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2007, 17:34 »

Screems
Screams for God's Sake!!! ;) .

I get your point. Do you mind a brainstorm?

"Imp falls under pressure of your 12 gauge shotgun"
"Imps torso is nailed with 10mm bullets"
"Imp is blasted by the rocket, with size of his head"
"Imps body falls about, filled with lead"
"Power Cell leaves imps bloody corpse on the floor"
"You tear imp apart with your bare hands"
"You cut imp to pieces with your chainsaw"
"You take your knife from imps dead body"
"Imp couldn't resist holy power of Longinus Spear"
;)

Anyways I think it would take too much place, though the idea sounds Ok
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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2007, 03:49 »

Screems
Screams for God's Sake!!! ;) .
Yeah, sorry, that's a miss-correction of myself.

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Do you mind a brainstorm?
Do I mind...? That's the whole point, man.
And that's a hint for all you idle readers :)
Also, and possibly more so, post your opinions on the lines people write here. The smallest changes to them can make or break the feeling they give.

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Anyways I think it would take too much place, though the idea sounds Ok
Each off-LOS death gives a line about that length. I don't think there's any harm in having on-LOS deaths resulting in short sentences, too.

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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2007, 10:46 »

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Do you mind a brainstorm?
Do I mind...? That's the whole point, man.
And that's a hint for all you idle readers :)
Also, and possibly more so, post your opinions on the lines people write here. The smallest changes to them can make or break the feeling they give. .
Yeah, yeah, quiet Kiddo, it was said with a smile on my lips :) . Btw you didn't comment my brainstorm ideas :(. I feel so alone and empty...

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Anyways I think it would take too much place, though the idea sounds Ok
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Each off-LOS death gives a line about that length. I don't think there's any harm in having on-LOS deaths resulting in short sentences, too.
Still a relatively short length line, comparing to what you suppose. Not that I don't like the idea of having neat descriptions of monsters death. Bloody Hell, here I come!!!
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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2007, 14:10 »

To be quite frank, I intentionally didn't comment on your brainstorming (and won't for a while), as I want others to sense and react to the need of opinion. I think there is much more to be found in a combination of several to many opinions, than in the opinions of two or three of us. Plus, I honestly and deeply love the creative process, and can't appreciate it the same way when it is influenced by my hands :)

That said, I just spent the last few hours mesmerized by wikipedia articles on daemonology, especially when they drift away into D&D world stories. The Blood War's fascinating, and reading that the Illithid empire brought it to a hault, as the Lords of Hell and demon princes contemplated a joint effort against them, literally had me laugh in admiration for a second, then I stopped suddenly, in awe, as the meaning and implications struk me.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2007, 04:18 by TFoN »
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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2007, 04:18 »

Well, not as productive or witty as I had hoped yet. It'll take me a while longer to make a good list. I've also come to agree that a sentence per possible kill will be really difficult with such short sentences. That's why eventually I'd like to see an option to switch between simple "the foo dies" lines, short descriptions and long descriptions, where long descriptions will be 2-3 times as long as the short ones, appearing either every kill or with a ~30% probability. For now, I've been trying to keep sentences short and mostly to the point, with the exception of knife and fist kills.

SG short-range kill:
"The foo is blasted wide open"
"The Lost Soul is blasted to a fine, red paste"
"The Cacodemon's head is torn clean off"

SG long-range kill:
"The foo is freckled with led"

Dual pistol/CG 2+ hit:
"The foo is riveted with bullets"
"The foo is made a holey martyr to its cause"

Pistol/CG 1 hit:
"The foo has a new third eye installed"
"The former foo's spleen/lung/prostate is flung across the room/nailed to the wall"

BFG:
"The foo is now but ashes and dust"
"The foo is a smudge on the floor/stain on the wall"
"The foo smells like chicken"

Fists:
Former Foo - "You smash man with hands!"
Demon - "You crush shaved gorilla with fists"
Arch-Vile - "You bash fire-man with bare hands. That hurt."

Knife:
Cacodemon - "You sever the Astral Dreadnought's tail with your Silver Sword!"
Baron - "You righteously flay the Pit Fiend with your Holy Avenger!"

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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2007, 22:09 »

If it will be implemented, there should be an option to turn it off.
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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2007, 07:22 »

That is absolutely agreed upon.

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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2007, 02:04 »

Heh...

"You transform the foo into mangled heap."

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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2007, 16:05 »

RE "You blow the cacodemons head right off"

The cacodemon is a head! :)

Some of the suggestions are a bit cheesy but they would be fun to play with even for just one game.
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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2007, 06:59 »

The cacodemon is a head! :)
I was wondering how long it'd take someone to figure that one out :)

As for cheesyness (which ones, BTW?), this'll take me alot longer to establish well than I had first thought. I've been alot busier recently than I was a while ago, plus, as I had said, my "working space" is rather limited, with such short sentences. Things would also be moving faster if people would throw more of their own ideas in :)

"You transform the foo into mangled heap."
CS line? Sounds good :)

As for Supernaut's, most of the lines are nice (though with some grammar issues), I'll state the exceptions, better and worse:
"Imp falls under pressure of your 12 gauge shotgun"
Me likes :) Mostly as a point-blank SG kill of a large monster (one less likely to be torn to shreds).

"Imp is blasted by the rocket, with size of his head"
It isn't descriptive and/or gory enough for my taste, plus the grammar seems way off.
Also, in general, I'd like to see little to no use of gender where unnecessary, for as little player alienation as possible. That's most important when referring to the char, but best implemented everywhere, IMO.

"Power Cell leaves imps bloody corpse on the floor"
It seems to me out of line with the otherwise weapon-based killines.

"You tear imp apart with your bare hands"
Sweet :)

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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2007, 08:32 »

Melee fists::

You land a jaw-breaking punch on the former human/sergeant/captain/commando transforming his face into pulp.

You drive your fists into the cacodemon's eye tearing out intestines in a gush of blood. (gory enough? ;) )

You hit the demon square on the head with both fists in a skull-crushing blow.

You manage to hit the Hell Knight/Baron of Hell in a critical spot, snapping it's neck.

You grab the Arch-Vile in a deadly headlock and rip out it's spine.

You get behind the arachnotron and transform it's brains into a bloody pulp.

You land a mighty uppercut on the lost soul, smashing it into the ceiling.

You punch right through the pain elemental's soft tissue, ripping it apart.

EDIT: Supernaut: "You tear imp apart with your bare hands"
now I should have all of 'em monsters covered
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Re: The Matter of Splatter
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2007, 08:46 »

Now, that's what I'm talking about! ^^
Anyone else?
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