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Any advice for the latter half of N! AoD/A100?
ZicherCZ:
--- Quote from: Sereg on January 22, 2017, 11:52 ---Cyberdemons don't, but I seem to remember shamblers leaving a corpse...
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They may leave a corpse, but I can't recall ever seeing them resurrected (at least by Viles, and at least IMHE - I played UV Ao666 at that time, so N!/AoD ressurection was out of the question).
Cybies and Viles leave corpses as well, but these are coded to not allow their ressurection. Shambler may be that case as well.
Minaro:
--- Quote from: ZicherCZ on January 22, 2017, 05:43 ---You shouldn't meet harder enemies earlier than on UV (the level restrictions are the same for UV and N!). You can, however, meet more of them on a single floor.
Besides Viles (and nightmare viles), lost souls and elementals (pain, agony and lava) certainly do not respawn, as they do not leave a corpse to respawn from. For all I know, Cybies and Shamblers do not respawn as well, and everything else does.
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Yeah, I should've mentioned my point of reference was the standard difficulty. Apart from the other modifiers, the only difference between N! and UV is the amount of enemies spawned.
Minaro:
Just thought I'd give you a view of what I ran into on floor 99. Had a Homing Phase Device but I thought I'd humor myself :P
Here comes the Mortem;
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DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Minaro, level 25 Hell Baron Lt. Colonel Marine,
completed 100 levels of torture on level 100 of Hell.
He survived 3894309 turns and scored 11090851 points.
He played for 8 days, 21 hours, 3 minutes and 20 seconds.
He opposed the Nightmare!
He killed 5477 out of 6053 hellspawn. (90%)
He held his right to remain violent.
He was an Angel of Darkness!
He was also an Angel of 100!
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 0
Levels visited : 0
Levels completed : 0
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
UAC Star (gold cluster)
Experience Cross
Dervis' Medallion
Heroic Gold Badge
Hunter Platinum Badge
Hunter Diamond Badge
Centurial Platinum Badge
Centurial Diamond Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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###..#..#..#.....#..===#====.########.====.#####==RVM######
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VM#..#..#.....#........#...=}......#..====...0..===MM....B#
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..#...........#......B.B.......0...#RRR===|......0........#
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 120/60 Experience 2109492/25
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +10 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +15
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Marine
Finesse (Level 3)
Tough as nails (Level 3)
Son of a gun (Level 3)
Reloader (Level 3)
Brute (Level 5)
Juggler (Level 1)
Berserker (Level 1)
Whizkid (Level 2)
Badass (Level 2)
Shottyman (Level 1)
Vampyre (Level 1)
TaN->Bru->Bru->Ber->Bad->MVm->TaN->Fin->Fin->WK->WK->TaN->Bru->Fin->Bad->Jug->Bru->Bru->Rel->Rel->Rel->SM->SoG->SoG->SoG->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] energy-shielded vest [3] (OP)
[b] [ Weapon ] assault shotgun (7d3) [6/6] (T3)
[c] [ Boots ] Nyarlaptotep's Boots [6/6] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] chainsword (8d3) (P)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] tactical rocket launcher (6d6) [6/6] (B1)
[b] burst laser rifle (1d9)x7 [80/80] (T1)
[c] cerberus phaseshift armor [0/0] (100%)
[d] Necroarmor [6/6] (100%)
[e] Berserker Armor [0]
[f] shotgun shell (x21)
[g] rocket (x10)
[h] rocket (x10)
[i] large med-pack
[j] large med-pack
[k] large med-pack
[l] large med-pack
[m] homing phase device
[n] power mod pack
[o] power mod pack
[p] technical mod pack
[q] bulk mod pack
[r] Hellwave Pack
[s] phaseshift boots [4/4] (82%) (A)
[t] shell box (x100)
[u] rocket box (x20)
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
Acid - internal 0% torso 50% feet 30%
Fire - internal 0% torso 50% feet 30%
Plasma - internal 0% torso 50% feet 0%
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
318 former humans
417 former sergeants
580 former captains
636 imps
131 demons
712 lost souls
174 cacodemons
168 hell knights
514 barons of hell
237 arachnotrons
10 former commandos
82 pain elementals
316 revenants
320 mancubi
401 arch-viles
47 nightmare imps
126 nightmare cacodemons
125 nightmare demons
25 nightmare arachnotrons
4 nightmare arch-viles
5 elite former humans
3 elite former sergeants
5 elite former captains
6 elite former commandos
48 bruiser brothers
38 shamblers
4 lava elemental
22 agony elementals
3 Cyberdemons
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
On level 17 he found the Necroarmor!
On level 21 he assembled a chainsword!
On level 22 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
On level 27 he encountered an armed nuke!
On level 29 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
On level 40 he stumbled into a complex full of arch-viles!
On level 40 he assembled a burst cannon!
Level 41 was a hard nut to crack!
On level 42 he was walking in fire!
On level 45 he found the Lava Armor!
On level 47 he assembled a fireproof boots!
On level 49 he found the Acid Spitter!
He nuked level 49!
Level 53 was a hard nut to crack!
Level 54 was a hard nut to crack!
On level 56 he assembled a tactical rocket launcher!
On level 56 he assembled a cerberus armor!
On level 60 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
On level 63 he encountered an armed nuke!
Level 64 was a hard nut to crack!
He left level 64 as soon as possible.
On level 65 he found the Nyarlaptotep's Boots!
On level 70 he ran for his life from lava!
He left level 72 as soon as possible.
On level 73 he stumbled into a complex full of arch-viles!
On level 79 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
On level 81 he stumbled into a complex full of shamblers!
On level 89 he found the Hellwave Pack!
On level 90 he found the Berserker Armor!
On level 93 he encountered an armed nuke!
He left level 94 as soon as possible.
On level 95, hell froze over!
On level 95 he found the Shielded Armor!
On level 99 he stumbled into a agony elemental cave!
He left level 100 as soon as possible.
On level 100 he finally completed 100 levels of torture.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You feel more calm.
There are stairs leading downward here.
Just one more! Just one more! Will you die here? Press <Enter>...
You see : a plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [40/40] | floor
You use a homing phase device. You feel yanked in a non-existing direction!
There are stairs leading downward here.
You did it! You completed 100 levels of DoomRL! You're the champion! Press
<Enter>...
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
101 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
81 of those were killed.
1 of those was killed by something unknown.
2 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
And 2 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.
15 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
6 killed the bitch and survived.
9 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.
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The score for this run was more than 15x higher than the highest score of my other runs :P
No idea how to disable the codes to prevent the text from getting strikethrough'd.
thelaptop edit: You use the "mortem" tags instead of "pre". I've done them for you here to show you what I mean.
Moonshine Fox:
AoD? That's just downright nasty. I did AoMC/A100 once and that was a slog. Can't imagine doing that on AoD XD Good job sir!
Minaro:
Well AoD ain't *that* bad if you're gonna run N! anyway, one of the biggest problems on AoD is the respawning and that already happens on N!. Visual range is the second one, but unless you're finding yourself in a very unfavorable position you'll be dragging things through chokepoints most of the time where it won't matter anyway. No persistent mapping is an inconvenience but manageable.
I think my biggest worry was not being able to save, since I lost motivation for playing DoomRL for a while around floor 20-30. Ended up doing a few floors a day - at most - for a decent while. It would've been a major letdown if my computer had crashed or something during these ~9 days. I churned through the last 50 or so floors yesterday. Once I found an Onyx mod I mostly just rambo'd around. But yeah, it was a major slog. Especially around 15+ where I had enough talents and gear to feel fairly confident about not dying (unless I ended up in a *really* bad spot), but not confident enough to not hole up in the first suitable chokepoint I'd find... but I guess that shows on the turncount.
I also maxed out on levels somewhere around floor 50 iirc. Might've been earlier.
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