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[LuckyDee]

If I'm gonna waste time simply watching stuff, this is the new series for me.

I'm even tempted to pick up D&D. Forsooth!

[Malek Deneith]

Only took a quick glance but this looks like it might be a fun series to watch. The intro was brilliant.

I'm even tempted to pick up D&D. Forsooth!

Might be hard to find a DM that lives up to what Matthew Mercer shows there, he's pretty good from what I heard :P

[LuckyDee]

Might be hard to find a DM that lives up to what Matthew Mercer shows there, he's pretty good from what I heard :P

Dude's awesome. Both the text and the delivery are excellent. But it's mainly the group chemistry I'm talking about, and the fact that D&D appears to lend itself for this kind of play.

[Malek Deneith]

You know, I had a fridge logic moment today at work and came to conclusion that part of the reason for that might be that D&D has this, hmmm, reputation for lack of a better work of a "less roleplaying" system, as opposed to the RP-heavy ones like, for example, anything by White Wolf. What I mean is look at the video you linked - the party there does roleplay their characters, obviously, but to me at least they approach it in a more light-hearted way. They focus on having fun first, "getting into character" second so to say. Which might lead to a different chemistry than other way around.

But maybe it's just me...

[LuckyDee]

Well, like I said before, the main problem I have with D&D is that if you look up just about any thread on just about any forum on it, it's always "MY CHARACTER DEALS MORE DAMAGE THAN YOURS". Screw that. That's not what RPG is about. If I want that stuff, I turn to a computer. You have forgotten the faces of your fathers.

These guys are a great example of playing a proper story on one hand, and indeed, putting having fun on the top of the list on the other. Kudos. That's the stuff that gets me excited.

[ZicherCZ]

The very first ten minutes made me laugh several times. Looks like a really good way to waste time.

You have forgotten the faces of your fathers.

Long days and pleasant nights to you for that quote.

[LuckyDee]

Long days and pleasant nights to you for that quote.

I'd made a wager with myself you'd be picking up on that one. You never disappoint ;)

And yeah, I've seen the first four episodes in the meantime. Love these people.

[The Good Rogue]

You have forgotten the faces of your fathers.

Your knowledge of this awesome series brought me back from limbo just to tell you this.

[ZicherCZ]

I'd made a wager with myself you'd be picking up on that one.

Who won? ;)

[Sereg]

I just lost a dollar... to myself.

By the way, which series are we talking about? You've got me interested.

[Malek Deneith]

Well, like I said before, the main problem I have with D&D is that if you look up just about any thread on just about any forum on it, it's always "MY CHARACTER DEALS MORE DAMAGE THAN YOURS".

Might want to look into retroclones of earlier editions of D&D. Less options to min/max there, along with a bit different play ethos (currently reading a campaign journal of a campaign run with ACKS, a retroclone of Basic D&D... players end up running with a small army of henchlings and mercenaries and carving a literal domain for themselves :D)

Screw that. That's not what RPG is about.

To be fair it kind of *is*, in a way. After all RPGs evolved from wargaming :P

Edit: Putting jokes aside though your problem probably arises from plenthora of character optimization threads/boards in D&D communities. To this I say: RPGs have numbers. People get attached to their numbers and like to see them grow. This is not wrong, it's kind of natural. Numbers themselves and excitement over them growing aren't the real problem, if anything the real problem is that newer (3e, 4e, possibly 5e though I don't know that one well enough to be sure), give players too much control over them, and too many options to tweak them in small ways (and also made more rigid rules frameworks). People have too much leeway in adjusting the numbers and hence character optimization threads happen. Older editions and their clones should have less of that problem since there is much, much less the player can do to pimp his character out without GM permitting it explicitly. (And before you say anything yes Hackmaster is a negative example here, but Hackmaster was intentionally built as crunchy and fiddly as it is, due to nature of what it represents)

[LuckyDee]

Who won? ;)

Yes.

By the way, which series are we talking about? You've got me interested.

Force Grey, Giant Hunters - there was a link cleverly hidden in the first post.

People get attached to their numbers and like to see them grow. This is not wrong, it's kind of natural. Numbers themselves and excitement over them growing aren't the real problem, if anything the real problem is that newer (3e, 4e, possibly 5e though I don't know that one well enough to be sure), give players too much control over them, and too many options to tweak them in small ways (and also made more rigid rules frameworks). People have too much leeway in adjusting the numbers and hence character optimization threads happen.

Yeah, that pretty much covers it for me. And the system would definitely be a big factor here, but in the end it's what you, the player, make of it.

[Malek Deneith]

Hey Dee, got something for your perusal: Chronicles of the Grim Fist. Obviously being a written campaign journal rather than video series it's a different beast from Force Grey series, but still it's worth a look - the write up of the campaign reads real well and the way their adventuring goes and scope it reaches is amazeballs in my opinion.

Was going to link this much, much earlier but I'm a procrastinating procrastinator that procrastinates, and also things that divert my attention are ma-oooooh, shiny.

*ahem* Anyway I see you're also starting a game of your own. Not my cup of tea what you're planning but all the same I wish you good luck... Game Master

[LuckyDee]

Cheers! I'll have a better look at the Chronicles some time soon, it looks like they might be a lot of fun.

And as for the game: I really need to start testing my ideas and see how well they work out. There's still room for one more if you care to expand your horizons... That being said, I know your stance on this, and will feel only mildly insulted by your rejection.

[Malek Deneith]

Thanks for the offer but I'd be a really ill fit for the sort of game you have in mind. I've been built for... simpler... things in mind ;)

Besides I am moving crawling myself up to some GMing of my own. Planning to see if I can coerce convince some of my friends into playing some old old school megadungeon crawl/exploration game.