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The Journey to 100%
Icy:
The Berserker's Armor isn't necessary for Gutts' Heart, though getting it for an Apostle kill with that method is definitely crazy. Max Carnage helps for that first Gutts' Heart strat, but it's still a long game of not getting hit too many times. More particularly, I'm not fond of fighting the Angel of Death in that kind of run.
Day 44:
Very exceptional day for progress! I had a rocky start going for Angel of Humanity as a Conquerer and got pretty far on one decent run. Deimos Lab was nice to me with its weapons:
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I also used a Run->Wait trick to take out the Arachnotrons with a Chainsaw:
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Run->Wait is so good for Deimos Lab! :D
Then after healing with a Large Med-Pack, I fought the Shamblers and got one-shotted:
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Pretty insane. I might have to hope for Hell's Armory to reasonably be able to complete this challenge. Again though, Angel of Death might be a problem on Angel of Humanity.
So after that, I decided to go for Reaper Diamond Badge, which is clearing Mortuary/Limbo on Angel of Confidence. My plan was to use the same Nuclear BFG strat as before, just with some extra stairdiving and such beforehand. On my run, I totally luckboxed it again by getting probably 8-10 Invulnerabilities through all the floors leading up, and even got Cyberdemon's Head lol:
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I was fortunate to roll Limbo, which is significantly easier, but the spawns inside were bad and I had an Archvile on the Nuclear BFG island:
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The issue here is I literally used all my ammo, so I only had my Nuclear BFG:
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As I was firing away to the other islands, I kept getting swarmed by Nightmare Cacodemons. I had to fight about 6 of them, all while letting my Nuclear BFG recharge. Dodgemaster saved the day, but it was pretty intense and scary. Fortunately on Nightmare, enemies tend to be more aggressive with attacking and not so much with movement, so I was usually able to recharge before they go too close:
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I took a few hits, but was lucky enough to have enough med packs to make it across:
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From there, it was just more clearing:
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I happened to get another Invulnerability before Dis and figured why not go for a full victory for a shot at another medal. It went about as well as you could expect. :P
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DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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sgrres, level 8 Apostle General Scout,
defeated the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
He survived 47593 turns and scored 263209 points.
He played for 29 minutes and 17 seconds.
He opposed the Nightmare!
He killed 283 out of 801 hellspawn. (35%)
He was an Angel of Max Carnage!
He was also an Angel of Confidence!
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 8
Levels visited : 4
Levels completed : 1
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Cyberdemon's Head
UAC Star (gold cluster)
Grim Reaper's Badge
Reaper Diamond Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 0/60 Experience 23708/8
ToHit Ranged +12 ToHit Melee +12 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +0
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Scout
Ironman (Level 1)
Hellrunner (Level 2)
Tough as nails (Level 2)
Dodgemaster (Level 1)
Intuition (Level 2)
Int->Int->HR->HR->DM->TaN->Iro->TaN->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] Angelic Armor [0/7] (0%)
[b] [ Weapon ] combat knife (2d5)
[c] [ Boots ] nothing
[d] [ Prepared ] chaingun (1d6)x4 [28/40]
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] tactical shotgun (8d3) [0/5]
[b] rocket launcher (6d6) [0/1]
[c] green armor [1/1] (100%)
[d] blue armor [2/2] (64%)
[e] 10mm ammo (x8)
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
None
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
7 former humans
15 former sergeants
14 former captains
19 imps
29 demons
47 lost souls
6 cacodemons
13 hell knights
24 barons of hell
32 arachnotrons
1 former commando
2 pain elementals
12 revenants
7 mancubi
13 arch-viles
9 nightmare imps
15 nightmare cacodemons
9 nightmare demons
7 nightmare arachnotrons
1 Cyberdemon
1 Spider Mastermind
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
On level 3 he arrived at the Containment Area.
Not knowing what to do, he left.
He left level 4 as soon as possible.
On level 5 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
He left level 6 as soon as possible.
He left level 7 as soon as possible.
On level 8 he found the Tower of Babel!
On level 9 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
On level 11, hell froze over!
On level 11 he entered the Vaults.
He came, he saw, but he left.
On level 12 he stumbled into a complex full of arch-viles!
On level 12 he was foolish enough to enter Limbo!
On level 12 he found the Angelic Armor!
He managed to clear Limbo from evil!
On level 14 he was targeted for extermination!
He left level 14 as soon as possible.
Then at last he found Dis!
He overloaded a nuclear BFG 9000 on level 16!
He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
On level 17 he finally defeated the Mastermind.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
missile hits John Carmack. Carmack raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
John Carmack reloads his rocket launcher.
You miss the lost soul. The lost soul hits you.
You swap your weapons. Carmack raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
You hit the lost soul. The lost soul dies.
The lost soul hits you.
You miss John Carmack.
You are hit! The lost soul dies. The lost soul dies. The lost soul dies. The
lost soul dies. Your Angelic Armor is damaged! The lost soul hits you.
The lost soul hits you.
The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. Your
Angelic Armor is damaged! The lost soul hits you.
The lost soul hits you.
You are hit! You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a
freed soul! The lost soul dies. The lost soul dies. The lost soul dies. The
lost soul dies. The lost soul hits you. You die!... Press <Enter>...
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
1135 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
853 of those were killed.
2 of those were killed by something unknown.
41 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
And 127 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.
112 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
12 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
96 killed the bitch and survived.
4 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.
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The next badge I went for was Daredevil Diamond Badge, which is just beating Overconfidence on Nightmare with 80% kills. This didn't take too many tries and basically was just getting to floor 7 with an easy enemy to repeatedly kill:
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I killed him several hundred times to get a high enough kill rate before fighting the Spider Mastermind. Thankfully, Run->Wait makes this so much easier than mashing Wait. :P I might not have tried it if not for that technique. Even just a hundred last time I did before was awful.
And with that badge:
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DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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jhgfj, level 9 Apostle General Scout,
defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis.
He survived 110271 turns and scored 201412 points.
He played for 33 minutes and 12 seconds.
He opposed the Nightmare!
He killed 708 out of 873 hellspawn. (81%)
He was an Angel of Max Carnage!
He was also an Angel of Overconfidence!
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 4
Levels visited : 1
Levels completed : 0
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Mastermind's Brain
UAC Star (bronze cluster)
Daredevil Diamond Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 49/50 Experience 30586/9
ToHit Ranged +12 ToHit Melee +12 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +0
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Scout
Finesse (Level 2)
Hellrunner (Level 2)
Tough as nails (Level 1)
Juggler (Level 1)
Dodgemaster (Level 1)
Intuition (Level 2)
Int->Int->HR->HR->DM->Fin->Fin->Jug->TaN->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] red armor [4/4] (100%)
[b] [ Weapon ] minigun (1d6)x8 [128/200]
[c] [ Boots ] nothing
[d] [ Prepared ] Jackhammer (8d3)x3 [9/9]
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [40/40]
[b] assault shotgun (7d3) [5/6]
[c] red armor [4/4] (100%)
[d] combat knife (2d5)
[e] 10mm ammo (x100)
[f] 10mm ammo (x100)
[g] 10mm ammo (x100)
[h] 10mm ammo (x100)
[i] 10mm ammo (x100)
[j] 10mm ammo (x100)
[k] 10mm ammo (x100)
[l] 10mm ammo (x100)
[m] 10mm ammo (x100)
[n] 10mm ammo (x100)
[o] 10mm ammo (x100)
[p] 10mm ammo (x48)
[q] 10mm ammo (x100)
[r] shotgun shell (x50)
[s] shotgun shell (x40)
[t] large med-pack
[u] 10mm ammo chain (x250)
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
Fire - internal 0% torso 25% feet 0%
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
3 former humans
15 former sergeants
582 former captains
5 imps
23 demons
15 lost souls
1 cacodemon
14 barons of hell
2 arachnotrons
2 former commandos
1 pain elemental
12 revenants
22 mancubi
10 arch-viles
1 Spider Mastermind
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
On level 2 he found the Jackhammer!
On level 3 he stumbled into a complex full of mancubi!
He left level 4 as soon as possible.
On level 6 he arrived at Mt. Erebus.
He decided it was too dangerous.
Then at last he found Dis!
On level 8 he finally defeated the Mastermind.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
Mastermind flinched! The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider
Mastermind flinched! The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider
Mastermind flinched! The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider
Mastermind flinched!
The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider
Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the
Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider
Mastermind flinched! The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider
Mastermind flinched! The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider
Mastermind flinched! The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider
Mastermind flinched!
Boom! The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider
Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the
Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind dies. Congratulations! You defeated
the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>...
Boom! Boom! Boom!
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
1147 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
863 of those were killed.
2 of those were killed by something unknown.
41 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
And 128 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.
113 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
12 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
97 killed the bitch and survived.
4 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.
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So now I'm just 2 more diamond badges away from getting the awesome "Chaos" prefix to my ranking title! I'm not sure which I'm going to go for yet, but I'll do some more rotating and hopefully get some luck. :)
Tormuse:
Congrats on the Diamonds! :) Gentle reminder to put your badges in your sig so we know your progress. :)
I'm curious to know what build you're using for the AoHu game; obviously, Dodgemaster is a must for that Shambler battle, and you might want to consider leaving some of those crates intact so you have some cover. (That corridor you died in was a really unfortunate place to be fighting them; no room to maneuver)
As for the AoD, possible strategies:
1) Make Ballistic Armour assembly (or wear Ballistic Vest or similar) for the melee protection and just brute force it.
2) Get yourself some high movement speed and a Ripper and kite the AoD while circling the Cathedral.
3) Same as above, but throw Combat Knives. (Takes a lot longer, but probably safer)
(Disclaimer: I have never actually achieved Everyman Diamond; these are just ideas)
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3 former humans
15 former sergeants
582 former captains
5 imps
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I think these ratios are hilarious. :D
BBHood217:
They're chaingunners, they deserve it.
Icy:
I'll make my signature once I reach Chaos Major. :)
For my Angel of Humanity game, I went with my usual Intuition x2->Hellrunner x2->Dodgemaster. I intend to keep using that for future runs as well.
Day 45:
I was thinking about "easy" diamond badges to get and decided to go for Eagerness Diamond Badge. I figured that with Angel of Overconfidence to help, I could just repeatedly try until I made it to the Spider Mastermind. I went with Eagle Eye x2->Intuition x2 for an easy fight at the end. After just a couple tries with lucky staircases and Invulnerabilities, I got it!
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hgfhgdf, level 4 Apostle Marshal Technician,
defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis.
He survived 27273 turns and scored 67339 points.
He played for 19 minutes and 26 seconds.
He opposed the Nightmare!
He killed 33 out of 281 hellspawn. (11%)
Who gave him the ticket to Hell, anyway?
He was an Angel of Impatience!
He was also an Angel of Overconfidence!
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 4
Levels visited : 1
Levels completed : 0
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
UAC Star (bronze cluster)
Eagerness Diamond Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 23/50 Experience 4120/4
ToHit Ranged +4 ToHit Melee +4 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +0
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Technician
Eagle Eye (Level 2)
Intuition (Level 2)
EE->EE->Int->Int->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] red armor [4/4] (79%)
[b] [ Weapon ] assault shotgun (7d3) [5/6]
[c] [ Boots ] nothing
[d] [ Prepared ] shell box (x91)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] combat pistol (3d3) [15/15]
[b] minigun (1d6)x8 [200/200]
[c] combat knife (2d5)
[d] 10mm ammo chain (x250)
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
Fire - internal 0% torso 25% feet 0%
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
6 former sergeants
3 former captains
4 imps
10 demons
2 lost souls
1 arachnotron
2 former commandos
3 mancubi
1 arch-vile
1 Spider Mastermind
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He sounded the alarm on level 1!
He left level 2 as soon as possible.
He left level 4 as soon as possible.
On level 6 he entered the Lava Pits.
He decided it was too hot there.
Then at last he found Dis!
On level 8 he finally defeated the Mastermind.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
You quickly reload the assault shotgun.
You quickly reload the assault shotgun. Your shell box is depleted.
You have no more ammo for the assault shotgun!
You wear/wield : a shell box (x100)
You quickly reload the assault shotgun.
You quickly reload the assault shotgun.
You quickly reload the assault shotgun.
You quickly reload the assault shotgun.
You are hit! Boom! You are hit! Boom! You are hit! Boom!
You quickly reload the assault shotgun.
You quickly reload the assault shotgun.
You quickly reload the assault shotgun.
You quickly reload the assault shotgun.
You quickly reload the assault shotgun.
You hear the scream of a freed soul! Congratulations! You defeated the Spider
Mastermind! Press <Enter>...
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
1152 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
866 of those were killed.
3 of those were killed by something unknown.
41 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
And 128 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.
114 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
12 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
98 killed the bitch and survived.
4 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.
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Naturally, my next choice was Inquisitor Diamond Badge...
With Angel of Purity+Overconfidence and as a Marine, I have no source at all of knowing where the stairs are, can't cheese with Invulnerability, can't really heal, and can't even use Light Amps. It's kinda hard. :P Envirosuits work though surprisingly.
The thing is though, there is potential to get super lucky and just get a ton of nearby staircases, Homing Phase Devices, and other dumb luck, and with both the power of patience and grinding, I want to get this now. It'll also make for an epic 9th diamond badge for the "Chaos" prefix! :) Apparently, it's a rare badge too as the only players confirmed to have it are Papilio and Sereg, though perhaps others quietly have achieved it too. It's another reason I want to get it!
So far, I've pumped out 150 runs, the majority of which end on the first floor because of getting obliterated, or because I'm not happy with my start.
I'm quite sad I couldn't make use of these Invulnerabilities:
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Here's the game giving me the middle finger:
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I've made it to floor 5 twice so far, and once to Limbo (forgetting I can't use Soulspheres :P). This was my best run, but I had a nasty start and unfortunately, the stairs were on the wrong side:
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And here's the game giving me the other middle finger:
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Some minor strategies do exist based around the bonus levels. Of course, it's always wise to take the first staircase you find, but if you have the option to enter Unholy Cathedral, Vaults, or Lava Pits/Mt Erebus, they're great for a quick item buffer and setup. Also in the odd case where you have a Homing Phase Device by floor 4 and happen to find Mortuary/Limbo, they can be advantageous as the Homing Phase Device is still taking you to floor 5, but through the bonus level, you can grab a Red Armor and Large Med-Pack as well, potentially also a Nuclear BFG. The only downside is if you luck out finding the normal staircase nearby, you could instead be going to floor 6.
My plan when I actually do get to the Spider Mastermind is just the same cheesy cornershooting. With a Combat Pistol, Ammo Chain, and all the ammo in the Minigun, I have more than enough to slowly poke away at her health. This is nice because I can freely use all the shells I need on the other floors.
I intend to continuously grind for the badge until I get it. Hopefully, the luck comes sooner than later! ;)
Sereg:
Nice progress. I will say that Inquisitor Diamond is probably not your next easiest option, however... that's easily one of the most difficult Diamond challenges, and I only got mine through absolutely incredible luck.
Not that I want to encourage you to give up, but if you're simply going for rank progression for now, I'd save that particular badge for later.
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