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The Journey to 100%
Dr. Granola:
Took a lava bath.
LuckyDee:
--- Quote from: Dr. Granola on October 12, 2017, 09:54 ---Took a lava bath.
--- End quote ---
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Icy:
Day 35:
More stairdiving and more struggling. I didn't find any Nano or Onyx Packs again, so I just had to keep running for the stairs, collecting health, and conserving ammo. Still was hoping for Inquisitor Armor too. I had some pretty fast floors with Phaseshift Set though, which is very nice. I also learned that you can click over fluids and the in-game movement doesn't get restricted with it, which is cool!
Fortunately, I got a different form of luck:
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And that luck continued:
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So despite my run not being ideal, I still completed my goals again! And with that, I now have collected 3 of every special and unique, giving me Armorer Diamond Badge!
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DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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LastUniqueRunPlz,
level 21 Apostle Lt. General Scout,
committed a stupid suicide on level 294 of Hell.
He survived 267925 turns and scored 750188 points.
He played for 4 hours, 39 minutes and 54 seconds.
He didn't like it too rough.
He killed 1844 out of 6455 hellspawn. (28%)
Who gave him the ticket to Hell, anyway?
He was an Archangel of 666!
He saved himself 6 times.
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 0
Levels visited : 0
Levels completed : 0
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
UAC Star (bronze cluster)
Experience Medal
Armorer Diamond Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 0/80 Experience 421944/21
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +4 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +6
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Scout
Ironman (Level 3)
Finesse (Level 3)
Hellrunner (Level 3)
Reloader (Level 2)
Brute (Level 2)
Juggler (Level 1)
Dodgemaster (Level 1)
Intuition (Level 2)
Whizkid (Level 2)
Shottyman (Level 1)
Shottyhead (Level 1)
Int->Int->Fin->Fin->WK->WK->Rel->Rel->SM->Jug->HR->MSh->HR->DM->HR->Fin->Iro->Iro->Iro->Bru->Bru->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] nothing
[b] [ Weapon ] Dragonslayer (9d9)
[c] [ Boots ] nothing
[d] [ Prepared ] nothing
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] nuclear plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [24/24]
[b] nuclear plasma rifle (1d7)x8 [24/24] (F1)
[c] nanofiber red armor [4] (P)
[d] phaseshift armor [2/2] (100%)
[e] shotgun shell (x7)
[f] small med-pack
[g] small med-pack
[h] large med-pack
[i] large med-pack
[j] large med-pack
[k] power mod pack
[l] Hell Staff
[m] cerberus steel boots [0/0] (100%) (A)
[n] Nyarlaptotep's Boots [6/6] (100%)
[o] shell box (x100)
[p] shell box (x100)
[q] shell box (x100)
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
Bullet - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60%
Melee - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60%
Shrapnel - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60%
Acid - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60%
Fire - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60%
Plasma - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60%
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
149 former humans
226 former sergeants
255 former captains
99 imps
34 demons
88 lost souls
60 cacodemons
89 hell knights
193 barons of hell
109 arachnotrons
4 former commandos
6 pain elementals
111 revenants
117 mancubi
128 arch-viles
24 nightmare imps
28 nightmare cacodemons
72 nightmare demons
7 nightmare arachnotrons
4 nightmare arch-viles
2 elite former humans
1 elite former sergeant
4 elite former captains
4 elite former commandos
20 bruiser brothers
5 shamblers
4 lava elemental
1 agony elemental
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
On level 13 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
On level 17 he encountered an armed nuke!
On level 19 he assembled a nanofiber armor!
On level 25 he assembled a cerberus boots!
On level 30 he stumbled into a complex full of revenants!
On level 30 he found the Nyarlaptotep's Boots!
On level 31 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
He sounded the alarm on level 33!
Level 37 was a hard nut to crack!
Level 38 was a hard nut to crack!
On level 40 he found the Enviroboots!
On level 41 he encountered an armed nuke!
On level 43 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
On level 44 he found the Hellwave Pack!
On level 53 he found the Hell Staff!
He sounded the alarm on level 57!
He left level 66 as soon as possible.
On level 68 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
Level 73 blasted him with an unholy atmosphere!
He left level 73 as soon as possible.
On level 74 he found the Revenant's Launcher!
Level 75 was a hard nut to crack!
He sounded the alarm on level 80!
On level 81 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
He left level 86 as soon as possible.
On level 87 he found the Railgun!
On level 88, hell froze over!
On level 89 he found the Necroarmor!
On level 90 he found the Grammaton Cleric Beretta!
He left level 93 as soon as possible.
On level 95 he found the Cybernetic Armor!
On level 100, hell froze over!
Level 101 was a hard nut to crack!
On level 103, hell froze over!
He left level 103 as soon as possible.
On level 105 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
On level 106 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
He left level 106 as soon as possible.
He left level 107 as soon as possible.
He sounded the alarm on level 110!
He left level 111 as soon as possible.
He left level 112 as soon as possible.
He left level 113 as soon as possible.
On level 114 he found the Lava Armor!
He left level 117 as soon as possible.
On level 119 he encountered an armed nuke!
On level 120 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
Level 122 blasted him with an unholy atmosphere!
He left level 122 as soon as possible.
On level 129 he stumbled into a complex full of mancubi!
He left level 132 as soon as possible.
Level 133 was a hard nut to crack!
He left level 133 as soon as possible.
Level 134 was a hard nut to crack!
On level 135, hell froze over!
He left level 135 as soon as possible.
Level 136 blasted him with an unholy atmosphere!
On level 137 he encountered an armed nuke!
He left level 138 as soon as possible.
Level 139 was a hard nut to crack!
He left level 139 as soon as possible.
He left level 140 as soon as possible.
Level 141 was a hard nut to crack!
He left level 143 as soon as possible.
He left level 145 as soon as possible.
He left level 146 as soon as possible.
On level 147 he stumbled into a agony elemental cave!
He left level 147 as soon as possible.
He left level 148 as soon as possible.
He left level 149 as soon as possible.
He left level 151 as soon as possible.
He left level 155 as soon as possible.
He left level 156 as soon as possible.
He left level 157 as soon as possible.
He left level 158 as soon as possible.
He left level 159 as soon as possible.
He left level 160 as soon as possible.
Level 162 blasted him with an unholy atmosphere!
He left level 167 as soon as possible.
Level 169 was a hard nut to crack!
He left level 169 as soon as possible.
He left level 170 as soon as possible.
He left level 172 as soon as possible.
On level 175 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
He left level 175 as soon as possible.
On level 177, hell froze over!
He sounded the alarm on level 178!
Level 181 blasted him with an unholy atmosphere!
On level 183 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
He left level 189 as soon as possible.
On level 190 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
On level 191 he found the Trigun!
On level 192 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
He left level 192 as soon as possible.
On level 194 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
He left level 194 as soon as possible.
On level 200 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
On level 201 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
He left level 202 as soon as possible.
Level 204 was a hard nut to crack!
On level 204 he found the Mega Buster!
He left level 205 as soon as possible.
He left level 206 as soon as possible.
He left level 209 as soon as possible.
On level 210 he was bombarded!
On level 215, hell froze over!
On level 218 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
He left level 218 as soon as possible.
Level 220 was a hard nut to crack!
He left level 221 as soon as possible.
On level 223, hell froze over!
He left level 223 as soon as possible.
Level 227 was a hard nut to crack!
He left level 227 as soon as possible.
On level 228 he stumbled into a complex full of mancubi!
On level 228 he found the Shielded Armor!
On level 229 he found the Anti-Freak Jackal!
He left level 230 as soon as possible.
He left level 232 as soon as possible.
He left level 234 as soon as possible.
He left level 237 as soon as possible.
He sounded the alarm on level 239!
On level 240, hell froze over!
He left level 240 as soon as possible.
He sounded the alarm on level 241!
He left level 241 as soon as possible.
He left level 242 as soon as possible.
He left level 243 as soon as possible.
He left level 244 as soon as possible.
He left level 245 as soon as possible.
He left level 246 as soon as possible.
He sounded the alarm on level 248!
He left level 248 as soon as possible.
On level 250 he was bombarded!
He left level 251 as soon as possible.
On level 253 he stumbled into a complex full of revenants!
He left level 253 as soon as possible.
He left level 254 as soon as possible.
On level 256, hell froze over!
He left level 256 as soon as possible.
On level 257 he ran for his life from acid!
He left level 257 as soon as possible.
He left level 258 as soon as possible.
He left level 259 as soon as possible.
He left level 261 as soon as possible.
Level 262 blasted him with an unholy atmosphere!
He left level 263 as soon as possible.
Level 264 was a hard nut to crack!
On level 265 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
He left level 265 as soon as possible.
On level 267 he found the Jackhammer!
He left level 268 as soon as possible.
He left level 269 as soon as possible.
He left level 271 as soon as possible.
On level 273 he stumbled into a nightmare arachnotron cave!
He left level 273 as soon as possible.
He left level 274 as soon as possible.
He left level 275 as soon as possible.
On level 276 he stumbled into a nightmare cacodemon cave!
He left level 276 as soon as possible.
He left level 277 as soon as possible.
He left level 278 as soon as possible.
He left level 279 as soon as possible.
He left level 280 as soon as possible.
He left level 282 as soon as possible.
He left level 283 as soon as possible.
On level 289 he found the Subtle Knife!
He left level 290 as soon as possible.
He left level 291 as soon as possible.
He left level 292 as soon as possible.
On level 293 he found the Dragonslayer!
On level 294 he finally committed a stupid suicide.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
Argh!!! Lava! You need to taste blood!
Argh!!! Lava! You need to taste blood!
Argh!!! Lava! You need to taste blood!
Argh!!! Lava! You need to taste blood!
Argh!!! Lava! You need to taste blood!
Argh!!! Lava! You need to taste blood!
You are hit! You are hit! Boom! Boom! You are hit! Argh!!! Lava! You need to
taste blood!
Boom! You are hit! Boom! Boom! Boom! Argh!!! Lava! You need to taste blood!
Boom! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! Argh!!! Lava! You
need to taste blood!
Argh!!! Lava! You need to taste blood!
Argh!!! Lava! You need to taste blood!
Boom! Boom! Boom! You are hit! Boom! Argh!!! Lava! You need to taste blood!
You are hit! Boom! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! Argh!!! Lava! You
die!... Press <Enter>...
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
935 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
672 of those were killed.
2 of those were killed by something unknown.
39 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
And 117 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.
105 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
10 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
91 killed the bitch and survived.
4 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.
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Next, I started going for Gatekeeper Platinum Badge. I figured Angel of Pacifism would be easiest since I could rely on either Invulnerability + Nuke, or use a Phase Device and hope for the best. Early on, I had two Phase Device runs and was inside the teleporter room, but was hit by splash damage both times. Very troll. I also tried a bit of Max Carnage + Light Travel, but the room before the Bruisers is way too insane to not be getting hit in.
I'm really curious what higher level skill is like in this game. A badge like Arena Diamond Badge (complete Hell's Arena on Nightmare on Angel of Berserk) seems ridiculously impossible to get. Like, certainly after a number of games it would eventually get completed, but I'm curious about consistency. I recall 2Dev claiming he could regularly get Dragonslayers from Unholy Cathedral, or Vandam's achievement of Demonic Angelic Badge, which seems totally fucked.
A higher skill level from what I'm aware of would involve things like knowing the math at a deeper level, planning movements of all enemies simultaneously, optimizing each decision based on probability, and so forth, but with the sheer luck and variance in the game, I don't see any way to complete difficult badges with ease, and not relying on countless attempts on top of great skill. I'm slowly starting to hit that point now that many of my remaining goals require playing on Nightmare, but I'm also a grinder and willing to play repeatedly. I'd just like to know if I should focus on personal gameplay improvement, or pumping out a large number of runs.
Any tips, advice, or wisdom is appreciated. :)
Dr. Granola:
As a self-professed noob who cribs every strat they find and read about, who also has no business telling you any of this, I'd say go for a bit of both. Just keep pumping out runs, and getting better along the way. The beast of both worlds!
(WARNING! Noobiness may affect reliability of advice.)
Sereg:
There's severe doubt about the legitimacy of any of 2Dev's achievements.
VANDAM is alot more likely to be legit, at least in my opinion, but there were never any mortems or videos of his claims.
The best active player at the moment has to be Tormuse(and as far as I'm aware he also has the highest confirmed Angelic count of any player in the history of DRL), and I know he's following your thread, so perhaps he will have some thoughts for you, but until then I can only speak for myself.
When it comes to the higher difficulty challenges, I am *extremely* inconsistent. My most impressive achievements have only come about through innumerable attempts culminating in one final run where I had pretty incredible luck. I can't speak to Arena Diamond(that one seems just as impossible to me as it does to you - there are at least 4 more Angelics[Veteran, Elite, Quartermaster, and Centurial] I'll go for before I'd even consider trying that), and while I suspect Dragonslayers from the cathedral are more consistent then that badge, they'd still require a massive amount of luck in the Arena. Again, you'll probably want to wait on Tormuse for that one, because he's actually done it.
Demonic Angelic is, if memory serves, 100% kill rate damageless nightmare? This is probably theoretically possible, but not only would it require an absurd number of attempts coupled with absolutely insane luck, it would also require player skill to be absolutely monumental. I would consider this to be on the very far end of the attainability scale.
Even the easier Diamonds and Angelics can't really be pulled off consistently, regardless of player skill - there is an optimal move on every single turn of the game, but the information required to make it is rarely fully available, and even with the intuition developed over hundreds of games that would decide a questionable move in the absence of complete information, the RNG will ensure that some runs simply cannot succeed regardless of player input, and this is especially true for achievements that rely on taking low(or no) damage.
As far as how to improve from here, keep trying difficult achievements. As Granola said, do both - playing large numbers of games will improve your feel for the game and help you make correct decisions even without full information, and you'll improve your base skill level along the way. This, at least, has been the case for me. When I first started posting, I think I was something like a Mancubus 2nd Lieutenant and struggling for whatever I needed for the next rank, which was probably a handful of gold badges. From there I made it all the way up to Cyberdemon Lt. General, which was the pinnacle of my achievement until I started a brand new profile on a new computer, wondering whether I'd even be able to replicate my former achievements.
Well, I have, and then some. Playing is the biggest part of it, and the rest is probably engaging with the community, getting feedback on runs, and familiarizing yourself with details of gameplay, whether that's learning from other players, reading the wiki, or checking stats in game. You're doing a good job of engaging with the community on this thread, and the rest is up to you, but I think you're on the right track.
Edit: I was close - it was Cacodemon 2nd Lieutenant. Here's the very first mortem I ever posted.
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