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Apologies if I'm doing this incorrectly - I've honestly registered just to post this post-mortem, given the honest time and effort it's taken me. My very first Nightmare! win, and I can genuinely say that it was wholly satisfying! (My first Angelic Badge ever! Although probably the easiest to get I figure) I took a lot more damage than I was hoping; I made the odd few mistakes here and there which cost me some HP, although nothing so significant that I wound up dying. While the game run-time also conceivably includes the time I spent afk (cooking/eating dinner and so forth), I still played extremely slowly and meticulously, making a point of consistently exterminating each and every corpse. In this regard, I'm surprised how far the basic High Power Pistol carried me, and the Demolition Ammo Pistol I managed to make was super clutch.

The hardest parts I found were simply my initial start on a lot of floors - had a number of really close calls spawning surrounded by enemies, and making a desperate attempt to flee to some cover. Lots of waiting for enemies to pop into visual range so that I could corner-snipe them, and lots of bait-dropping. I originally was intending to hit the Phobos Lab since I figured I had enough in terms of resources to scrape through (even though this is probably the level I have the single most trouble with), but I got really lucky and found a nuke on level 7 in a vault, and there was an invulnerability globe not far off from the two closely placed stair cases. The opportunity to drop down into the Anomaly and immediately nuke it was too good to pass up!

Incidentally, I managed to snag 6 new achievements in one game: Fallout Gold Cross, UAC Platinum, Reaper Platinum, Veteran Diamond, Elite Diamond, and Veteran Angelic. Feels good, man~

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Iko, level 18 Cyberdemon Mjr General Technician,
 nuked the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
 He survived 381359 turns and scored 1021115 points.
 He played for 11 hours, 5 minutes and 59 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 2324 out of 2324 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 9
  Levels completed : 9

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  UAC Star (gold cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Fallout Gold Cross
  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Hell Champion Medal
  UAC Platinum Badge
  Veteran Diamond Badge
  Veteran Angelic Badge
  Elite Diamond Badge
  Reaper Platinum Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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  ###########################################################

-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 50/50   Experience 165518/18
  ToHit Ranged +6  ToHit Melee +6  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Technician

    Hellrunner       (Level 3)
    Son of a gun     (Level 5)
    Reloader         (Level 3)
    Eagle Eye        (Level 3)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Sharpshooter     (Level 1)

  SoG->SoG->SoG->EE->EE->EE->MSs->Rel->Rel->WK->WK->SoG->SoG->Rel->HR->HR->HR->DM->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   energy-shielded vest [3/3] (51%) (P)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   blaster (2d6) [4/13] (B1P2)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   demolition pistol (5d2) [0/6] (P1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] high power pistol (2d6) [4/4]
    [b] phaseshift armor [1/2] (24%)
    [c] Shielded Armor [2]
    [d] Angelic Armor [7/7] (100%)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x140)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x140)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x49)
    [h] large med-pack
    [i] power mod pack
    [j] shockwave pack
    [k] cerberus plasteel boots [0/0] (100%)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   
    Plasma     - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    234 former humans
    205 former sergeants
    113 former captains
    297 imps
    108 demons
    594 lost souls
    138 cacodemons
    173 hell knights
    123 barons of hell
    40 arachnotrons
    50 former commandos
    55 pain elementals
    77 revenants
    42 mancubi
    37 arch-viles
    4 nightmare imps
    9 nightmare cacodemons
    16 nightmare demons
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 lava elemental
    1 agony elemental
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 John Carmack
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  On level 5 he assembled a high power weapon!
  On level 6 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  He nuked level 8!
  On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory.
  On level 9 he assembled a fireproof armor!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 11 he witnessed the Wall.
  On level 11 he assembled a demolition ammo!
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 12 he found the City of Skulls.
  He wiped out the City of Skulls.
  On level 14 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 14 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  On level 19 he found the Frag Shotgun!
  He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
  On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  On level 20 he found the Angelic Armor!
  He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
  On level 21 he assembled a cerberus boots!
  He nuked level 22!
  On level 22 he arrived at Mt. Erebus.
  On level 22 he found the Shielded Armor!
  He managed to raise Mt. Erebus completely!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  He overloaded a nuclear BFG 9000 on level 24!
  He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
  Then finally in Hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You see : John Carmack (mortally wounded) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack.
 You dodge!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack.
 John Carmack reloads his rocket launcher.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | blood | [ m ]ore
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack. John Carmack dies. Congratulations! You
 defeated John Carmack! Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 623 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 552 of those were killed.
 2 of those were killed by something unknown.
 And 40 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 29 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 1 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 17 killed the bitch and survived.
 11 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 22:34 »

Geez, talk about your grand entry... Congratulations, that's some collection of achievements there. And welcome!
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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2018, 23:52 »

Thanks! I always figured I would register eventually when I did beat N! and had something I felt worth mortem'ing about. Although I didn't go into story-time level of detail with after-action content, or strategies and such; I wasn't entirely sure if folks would be interested.

Fun fact, though: it took me 90 tries. 89 poor (would-be) Sharpshooters died to secure that victory.
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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 00:32 »

Fun fact, though: it took me 90 tries. 89 poor (would-be) Sharpshooters died to secure that victory.

Sharpshooters are awesome (I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it), but tough to get going even on lower difficulty levels. Raising one for a 100% full win on Nightmare! is ace. What did you do for corpse disposal?
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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2018, 01:12 »

Now that's a way to introduce yourself. And as a Sharpshooter <3 ... Congratulations, and welcome to the forums!

@LD, I see a demolition pistol in the prepared slot. This makes short work of any corpses.
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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2018, 01:14 »

@LD, I see a demolition pistol in the prepared slot. This makes short work of any corpses.

I saw it too, but it must have taken a couple of levels to obtain that - hence my question.
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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2018, 02:16 »

Sharpshooters are awesome (I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it), but tough to get going even on lower difficulty levels. Raising one for a 100% full win on Nightmare! is ace. What did you do for corpse disposal?

I love Sharpshooters. It's definitely my favourite master trait. Although the difficulty spike I found particularly in the pistol build notching up into N! was pretty huge. Corpse disposal was naturally the biggest part of this - early floors were definitely tricky. Also, this following turned longer and more detailed than I thought it would at first, so I've put it in a spoiler.

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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2018, 02:25 »

Nice and comprehensive. You almost make it sound easy :(
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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2018, 02:38 »

Ha. It definitely wasn't easy. :( In fact, a lot of it was really tense, feeling like every move I made had to be specifically calculated. There were also some really dicey moments, like at The Wall between when I ran out of rockets and when I leveled up into Whizkid2 (and immediately started blasting demo ammo), and low on medpacks. Or the City of Skulls when I was literally backed into the top right corner, heavily damaged, my shell box gone, and hoping that the traits I invested into Reloader were going to pay off enough to survive.

Later game I found easier simply due to the terrain advantages - specifically the greater abundance of available lava to melt corpses with.
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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2018, 12:21 »

Very impressive win...  welcome to the forums.

As a holder of two angelic badges,  neither of which is your veteran badge, I would like to dispute your claim that veteran is the easiest ;)


Well done. Hopefully you will continue to strive for new goals - you obviously have the skills to accomplish some very difficult challenges.
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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2018, 17:57 »

An Angelic badge is a heck of an entrance to the forums!  :o  Well done, and welcome!  :D

As a holder of two angelic badges,  neither of which is your veteran badge, I would like to dispute your claim that veteran is the easiest ;)

As a holder of a Veteran Angelic badge, I would also like to dispute it being the easiest!  :P  (I still say Shottyman is the easiest)  You clearly have some carefully honed skills there, Moray.  Doing a Nightmare! game with a Sharpshooter build is a bold choice; it must've been a pretty tough early game, but I'll bet having the Blaster and Demolition Pistol were a delight for the endgame!  :)

Good luck with whatever achievement you try for next; with skill like this, I'm sure this isn't the last we'll see of you.  :)
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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2018, 05:48 »

incredible run - i'd argue veteran angelic is the easiest but not using this build. sharpshooter win is fantastically impressive!
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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2018, 00:36 »

Holy moly, I just noticed that this thread has over 2200 views!  You must be popular, Moray!  :o  That's gotta break a forum record or something, because a quick glance tells me that 99% of threads here don't even come close!  :)
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Re: [N!|100%|YAVP/YAFW] I finally managed to beat Nightmare!
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2018, 15:32 »

Holy moly, I just noticed that this thread has over 2200 views!  You must be popular, Moray!  :o  That's gotta break a forum record or something, because a quick glance tells me that 99% of threads here don't even come close!  :)

Holy moly is right. That doesn't seem normal. Did someone run a bot-train on my thread?
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