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[1.1a|A!|Ma|AoLT|YAVP] My first Apocalypse victory! :D

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So I've been trying out the new Apocalypse difficulty, cycling through different challenge modes and different builds, trying to figure out what works best, and finally had some luck with Angel of Light Travel and a Survivor build.  :)

The early game was pretty harrowing, but started to come together when I got Angry MoFo 3.  AoLT doesn't let you carry around much in the way of healing opportunities, but the combination of Survivor and AMF helped mitigate that, and I think the AoLT speed boost was a big help in just getting around the levels quickly, before too many enemies revived.

Mid to late game was carried by a strategy suggested to my by Sylph of using a sniper rifle, along with an auto-repairing helmet with aim assist, and cover master 2, which allowed me to get +100% crit chance on every shot against any enemy where I waited at least once beforehand.  That, combined with AMF3 allowed me to do devastating damage to everything, with just a few bullets, including archmedusae and archwarlocks.  (Sadly, I lost the helmet when I got surrounded in a hunt level on the second last level;  I had to use a handful of grenades to get out of that situation)

The sniper rifle was important for ammo conservation, since AoLT obviously doesn't let you carry much, (I had another A! game come to an unfortunate end due to running out of ammo, so I wanted to be better prepared this time) and for a good chunk of the early game, I had a JAC .44 as a backup in case dangerous things got too close, (which I later replaced with the Firestorm;  another good weapon for ammo conservation) :)  and a melee weapon, first a combat knife, later a machete, then a katana, then Soulstealer.

The necrotic armour from Infernal Lock was a fortunate find, since up 'til that point, every suit of armour I wore got battered and destroyed, since I took full advantage of the build's benefits of low hp, so it was nice to finally have something that was self-repairing.  :)  (I worried a bit about the necrotic armour draining my hp at a bad time, taking me below the Survivor health gate and getting me killed, but fortunately, it didn't seem to drain my hp fast enough for that to be an issue)

That "Blind Luck Medal" came from the one instance in the whole game that I really used the Survivor's health gate feature.  I got zapped by an archmedusa, because I mistakenly thought it hadn't charged up a shot, and I fired a Firestorm shot at it in a situation where I had no cover, and it would have been wiser to run away.  (Oops!)  :o

I also made a recording of myself playing the last level.  I would have preferred recording the whole thing, and normally I wouldn't bother posting a single level, but Sylph made a comment about how she'd like to see more videos from me, and I thought, "aw, what the heck?"  :P  Anyway, here it is!  :)

Tormuse, level 18 Marine,
defeated the Harbinger against all odds.

He survived for 13257 turns.
The run time was 8h 18m 55s.
World seed was 3775.
He scored 11912 points.
He witnessed the APOCALYPSE!
He was an Angel of Light Travel!

CALLISTO L2 - Volatile Storage
CALLISTO L5 - Secure Vault
CALLISTO L5 -> Callisto Docking Bay
Europa Concourse - Lockdown
EUROPA L5 -> Refueling Base
Refueling Base - found Firestorm
IO L2 - Volatile Storage
IO L5 -> Infernal Lock
Infernal Lock - Cleared!
The Shattered Abyss - found Soulstealer
The Shattered Abyss - Cleared!
Dante Inferno - found BFT 10K
Dante Station L3 - The Hunt

  Explorer Ribbon (+100)
   * Visited all encountered special levels
  Blind Luck Star (+50)
   * Won despite getting down to 1hp at some point

He killed 1015 out of 1256 enemies.

 46 former grunts           12 security sentries
 1  former CRI grunt        8  military sentries
 12 former grenadiers       26 CalSec bots
 5  corrupted grenadiers    13 security bots
 4  former CRI  grenadiers  4  guardian bots
 13 former soldiers         55 reavers
 27 corrupted soldiers      46 cryoreavers
 9  former CRI soldiers     30 toxic reavers
 2  CRI soldiers            59 archreavers
 6  former sergeants        10 kerberi
 5  corrupted sergeants     7  cyberi
 3  former CRI sergeants    12 cryoberi
 20 former guards           3  toxiberi
 2  corrupted guards        7  medusae
 6  former commandoes       20 archmedusae
 12 corrupted commandoes    27 ravagers
 2  former CRI commandoes   19 armored ravagers
 2  CRI commandoes          6  siege ravagers
 2  former heavies          20 plasma ravagers
 2  corrupted heavies       31 CRI marines
 8  security drones         5  CRI bots
 46 fiends                  14 guardians
 8  fire fiends             3  sentinels
 19 ice fiends              8  warlocks
 31 CalSec sentries         3  archwarlocks

  Furious L2
  Hellrunner L3
  Tough as Nails L3
  Rip and tear L1
  Cover Master L2
  Angry Motherfucker L3

Trait order

  Slot #1 : AV1 7.62 sniper rifle +BC
   * Freezing 2
   * Auto-calibrated
   * Speed-loader
   * Hunter 6
   * Scope

  Slot #2 : Firestorm
  Slot #3 : Soulstealer
  Body : necrotic armor
   * Necrotic

  Head :  - NONE -
  Utility : AV3 auto AMP
   * Automatic reloader
   * Auto crit system

  Relic :  - NONE -

  Medusa's Curse
  CRI backpack

  7.62 ammo (x100)
  7.62 ammo (x100)
  7.62 ammo (x16)
  military stimpack

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The hell... and here I am, getting headaches dealing with "mere" Medusas on Hard.

You sir, are a mad man, but in a good way!

Thanks!  :D  And it's totally understandable to struggle with medusae.  They're a menace.  They basically exist to counter any possible strategy you want to approach them with.  :P

Amazing job!

Regarding the 'near miss' from the archmedusa - I'm not sure whether it's a bug or intended, but even after their 'charging' mode runs out, they stay charged until they fire! I'm not sure why they don't pre-charge before they see you. (Don't get any ideas Kornel!)

It can still be really valuable to let their charging mode run out, because we can often shoot them to death before they fire their shot.

I know Tormuse already knows this, but for anyone else reading - if we *must* take a medusa beam, I did some testing on it, and cover, hunker, and dodge are the best defenses against it. Importantly, it's usually better to 'hunker' until their beam fires, and *then* retaliate, than it is to attack while they are charging.

Awesome run! I'm going to have a go at some A! challenges soon, but I'll not be able to hold a candle to you! Well done, kudos!

Ah, excellent.  How does the lack of badges feel?  Like a hole in the heart, right?

The Necroarmor seems extremely good in all cases.  I used to be afraid of the lifedrain, but its so little there's no point even thinking about it.

Medusae are just such dickish enemies.  They slither so its very hard to alpha them.  They do consistent AoE so there's little dodging them.  They drain your HP if you close to melee.  I... don't think I like them.  They're too good.  Sure, you can deal with them, but aside from Wizard Toxicologist its always through some form of attrition.  And then you get Archmedusae where they go nigh-invulnerable while they charge up, and then HOLD that invulnerability until they punch you.  Dicks.  I think I'd like it if they were a bit more rare, as each sighting is a Major Big Deal.  Also I think there's design space for some sort of Minidusa that has the slither, but not the AoE or the Bite.  Hitting the player with all those mechanics at once is kind of a lot.

I'm honestly shocked you pushed off Hellrunner 2 for so long, nevermind Hellrunner 3.  I suppose Light Travel helps, but still.  Movement speed is something you can never have enough of.  Have you ever spec'd into Running?  I consider it an extremely strong path.

I also am a huge fan of aim assist.  It is a very high priority on most of my runs now -- I refer to it as the Magic Helmet.  It used to be the crux of my Apocalypse gibbing builds, but now its just a Very Nice To Have. 

I see you didn't puss out like I did and actually got Soulstealer.  Getting that sword on A! is a first, as far as I know.  Also from the body count it seems you didn't puss out again and at least put in an effort in Dante.  I just stair-dive in terror.  The last level of Dante is WAY harder than the endboss.

Lately I've been trying (and trying and trying and trying) to win a normal Apocalypse Technician game.  I've all but given up.  Technicnans are just so bad at higher difficulties.  The fact they start with multitools is like a cruel joke, since there's just nothing to use them on.  Everything is slow, everything is bad.  I've gotten midway through Io exactly once, and even there I was shocked at how quickly things could turn against you.  I think the core of it is that speed boosters are even more critical than normal in Jupiter Hell because movement is only 4-directional, but shooting is line-of-sight. 


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