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Re: Compilation of fixes, changes, and new ideas for version 0.9.9.9
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2024, 12:49 »

Nightmare! currently does not show you the 10% speed debuff that is applied to all classes. It should probably be noted in the player statistics to ensure that people don't get confused about why they are getting double-moved on.
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Re: Compilation of fixes, changes, and new ideas for version 0.9.9.9
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2024, 14:25 »

Fair enough on the ammo problem. Given that after a lot of firing, chainguns are super hot and keep on spinning a bit, maybe you could have the resistances last a couple of turns after you stop the chain fire be it voluntarily or if you ran out of ammo midway

I remember on the server we brought up maybe having it auto-reload which could be good/nice to also have but is also gated by having ammo - that can't really be addressed without something ultra drastic like ammo-chain sadly. You could try and move slightly in that direction by having so that while chain firing, you require less ammo to fully reload. Assuming that's doable you could even tie it to how many turns you've spent on chain fire.
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Re: Compilation of fixes, changes, and new ideas for version 0.9.9.9
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2024, 15:53 »

Scavenger mastery text needs to be updated to state that you can also scavenge boots and armor now.
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Re: Compilation of fixes, changes, and new ideas for version 0.9.9.9
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2024, 22:34 »

Got a bunch of new suggestions for badges and medals:

*Allow the Gargulec Medal to be obtained alongside Gargulec Cross

It was changed so that you could obtained lesser versions of medals alongside their greater versions if you haven't obtained them already, but as I found out when doing a 100% UV AoB run, you still cannot obtain Gargulec Medal alongside Gargulec Cross. If you've proven you can get 100% kills in AoB on UV or N!, you shouldn't be forced to do another 100% AoB run on a lower difficulty to get both medals.

*Add a new medal for defeating John Carmack without getting damaged

We have the Cyberdemon's Head and Mastermind's Brain for no damaging those respective bosses, and even Shambler's Head for beating Hell's Amory/Deimos Lab without damage, so why not an equivalent medal for the true final boss? I'm unsure for the name though, maybe "Keen's Helmet"?

*Add a new medal for completing a Conqueror run in any of the following challenges: Angel of Red Alert, Darkness, Impatience, Purity, and Masochism (while also requiring it to be a pure challenge, so it can't be cheesed by doing a dual angel with AoMC)

Seeing how Thomas' Medal exists for doing a Conqueror in Angel Of Humanity, I think we should also have a medal to acknowledge the achievement of doing Conqueror runs in these challenges where it's arguably as hard or even harder to complete a Conqueror run in (seeing how rarely they all been done, with me having firsts in two of them (AoI + AoD), a first in the pure challenge on UV for another (AoMs), and a second in one more of them (AoRA)). You could have one medal encompassing them all, or individual medals for each challenge. The potential name has to be discussed.

*Change Longinus Platinum to beating Unholy Cathedral without Brute on any difficulty, while also excluding Angel of Max Carnage and Angel of Light Travel from being able to earn it and Longinus Diamond

Current Longinus Platinum is just a check on if you can play Nightmare. You're able to play Nightmare well enough to make it to Unholy Cathedral? Then here's a free platinum for you, when any melee build will run through the Cathedral all the same regardless of difficulty, making it a very plain badge with no interesting challenge to it. Considering that beating Cathedral without Brute requires some ingenuity or particular technical play regardless of difficulty, it should be rewarded on difficulties below Nightmare. If you really don't want this badge being winnable on HNTR, then restrict it to HMP or at least UV. Current Longinus Diamond can stay as is, as beating the Cathedral on Nightmare without Brute does add some more depth to it (as the 10% speed penalty complicates speed-based strategies, and resurrecting complicates trying to utilize the Hatred Skull). I also want to propose disallowing Angel of Max Carnage and Angel of Light Travel from this badge, as they make it much easier, and apply the same restriction to Longinus Diamond as well.

*Add a new set of badges for The Chained Court

I find it weird how only a few special levels have complete badge sets related to them and some having no badges at all, so I think that should be rectified. The Chained Court is especially conspicuously absent with its complete lack of awards for it, given how it's one of the more iconic special levels and has a harder version that is ripe for challenges. As such, I propose the following badges for it:

Unchained Bronze: Clear The Chained Court after clearing Hell's Arena.
Unchained Silver: Clear The Chained Court after clearing Hell's Arena on HMP.
Unchained Gold: Clear The Chained Court after clearing Hell's Arena on UV in Angel of Shotgunnery (Shotguns have quite a bit more trouble here given the lack of good corner shooting spots and the inability to slug it out with the Barons and Arena Master from far range, but not too much more difficult as to merit beyond Gold).
Unchained Platinum: Clear The Chained Court after clearing Hell's Arena on UV in Angel of Impatience or Angel of Masochism (you got the berserks that can be easily destroyed by the Barons or Arena Master, or one Supercharge if you can get a well timed level up, making that all the healing you get, and you gotta do the annoying task of clearing Hell's Arena in AoI/AoMs first to even get an attempt).
Unchained Diamond: Clear The Chained Court after clearing Hell's Arena on N! in Angel of Purity (good usage of the Berserks is critical to beating the Unchained Court, especially on Nightmare, so having only the single berserk from the Chainsaw to work with should make this a worthy Diamond challenge, not to mention you have to beat Hell's Arena on Nightmare for every attempt, likely burning a lot of medkits in doing so).
Unchained Angelic: Clear The Chained Court after clearing Hell's Arena on N! in AoSh + AoP (essentially combining both the Gold and Diamond challenges together, not to mention on AoSh you're going to have a lot more complications with destroying the Baron corpses that will revive without the Arena Master's help, you really better make that Chainsaw berserk count).

*Add a new set of badges for Phobos Lab and Military Base

Phobos Lab and Military Base lacking any badges is more understandable as they arrived in 0.9.9.7, but they're still ripe for interesting badge challenges with them and so should have a set. They could have their own distinct set of badges given they're completely different levels, but I think they can work with a shared set to simplify things, so I propose the following (naming the badges after John Romero since he created both of these original Doom maps and currently he is conspicuously missing from any references in the game):

Romero Bronze: Clear Phobos Lab or Military Base on HNTR.
Romero Silver: Clear Phobos Lab or Military Base on UV (gotta at least deal with the Nightmare Demons or the full Elite Former squad for the Silver).
Romero Gold: Clear Military Base on UV in Angel of Impatience (thus you must clear it without being able to manipulate the Elite Formers to favorable positions with gift dropping, and camping the start will leave you with no means to heal).
Romero Platinum: Clear Phobos Lab on UV in Angel of Marksmanship without Sharpshooter (getting Sharpshooter allows you to reliably knockback the Nightmare Demons and thus makes an otherwise brutal challenge a lot more manageable, so it should be disallowed, but it would still be fine enough to implement without any trait restriction).
Romero Diamond: Clear Phobos Lab or Military Base on UV in Angel of Red Alert (while extremely extremely difficult, I think this can be doable without Angelic tier luck if you specifically gear your build all towards it).
Romero Angelic: Clear Phobos Lab or Military Base on N! in Angel of Red Alert (this one I'm not sure is even possible, but the extra level or two and extended powerup duration you get in Nightmare could make it barely doable with lots of rockets for gibbing + rocket jumping).

*Add a new set of badges for Hell's Armory and Deimos Lab

Another special level pair that weirdly lack a badge set, only having two basic medals, and again they very much make for good challenges. As such, I propose the following badges:

Quake Bronze: Enter Hell's Armory or Deimos Lab and leave without releasing the Shambler(s) (Avoiding making it the same as the Hell Armorer medal).
Quake Silver: Clear Hell's Armory or Deimos Lab on HMP
Quake Gold: Clear Hell's Armory or Deimos Lab on UV in Angel of Confidence (thus clearing them with only a couple levels and minimal equipment, but given the ease at which you can grind runs for this, it shouldn't be higher than Gold).
Quake Platinum: Clear Deimos Lab on UV in Angel of Masochism or Angel of Humanity without Berserker (thus you must beat the dual Shamblers without being able to heal nor activate run more than once, or in a challenge where even with ideal armor you can't take more than a few hits inbetween medkits, and without Berserker being able to greatly increase your durability against them, while also excluding Hell's Armory as it is too much easier to be an appropriate Platinum challenge).
Quake Diamond: Clear Deimos Lab on UV without taking damage, excluding the Angel of Max Carnage and Angel of Light Travel challenges (beating the dual Shamblers without getting hit is so hard that the devs didn't even bother programming in any extra reward for doing it like with Hell's Armory, so it should be worth a Diamond badge without playing Nightmare, just disallow AoMC and AoLT from getting this badge since they will make this badge much easier).
Quake Angelic: I'm not sure, perhaps clear Deimos Lab on N! without taking damage in Angel of Berserk, Angel of Marksmanship, or Angel of Shotgunnery (aside from the extra HP the Shamblers will have and the 10% speed penalty complicating manners, the weapon locked challenges will also complicate disposing of the Shamblers' corpses without lucky equipment finds, making it more distinct than just "same as Quake Diamond but a bit harder").

The Brick, Skull, Spider, and Lava series could be completed as well, and Halls of Carnage could use a badge set too, but I'll leave those free for anyone else to suggest new badges for them.

*In House Of Pain, seal off the Large Health Globes behind walls/doors that require the Arena Master's Staff to open

After very thorough playing with House Of Pain, I find it is still a bit too easy. While I think the Demons could still be replaced with their Nightmare version on UV/N!, the big culprit for the lacking difficulty is the four Large Health Globes, that means I almost never need to expend any medkits on this level. Additionally, saving the Arena Master's Staff for House Of Pain isn't rewarding enough on this level (in the beta testing when The Vaults was disabled, I never bothered bringing the Staff along since it didn't make a meaningful difference, and in official 0.9.9.8 I often forget the Staff is even an option for this level, if I just don't ditch it once I see House of Pain spawned instead of The Vaults). As such, I want to propose requiring the Staff to access the Health Globes, so this level is a lot more likely to burn your resources without the Staff, thus more encouraging you to bring and use the Staff here.

*Increase the Blaster's generation weight to 4

The Blaster currently has a generation weight of 2, which makes it as rare as most uniques. The Blaster is certainly very good, it's arguably the best thing a Pistol build can find, but it's not so good as to be made as rare as a Nuclear BFG, especially when it's still near worthless for any non-Pistol build. Increasing its generation weight to 4 would be more appropriate, and this would make it equivalent to a Nuclear Plasma Rifle, a similar innate nano weapon that has more utility for builds beyond those specializing in its weapon type.

*Have the Ballistic Armor assembly retain plasma and acid resistances from its base


The Ballistic Armor did get a nice buff in 0.9.9.8, but something I noticed that I didn't before is that if the base armor has any plasma or acid resistances, they'll be removed entirely when used for this assembly. The -20% fire resistance is already a harsh enough drawback, removing other energy resistances is just excessive, and in particular makes using Blue Armor very bad for this assembly. This also isn't inline with Fireproof Armor, which retains the base armor's other resistances.

*Have Grappling Boots retain the base boots' movement speed instead of being -10%

Grappling Boots is one of the least used assemblies in the game. There is a theoretical niche for it with melee builds that are getting annoyed by too much by knockback, for Invulnerable stair diving if VMR are knocking you around too much as you try to get to the stairs or for anyone that's really paranoid about getting knocked back into lava. But any such non-Invuln use for it is killed by the -10% movement speed, and the set -10% movement speed also means if someone dislikes the knockback boost of Phaseshift Boots, they can't use this assembly on it to get knockback resistance + increased movement speed. Grappling Boots would still rarely be made if they retained the base boots' speed, but if they didn't slow you down, there could be instances where you would consider it.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2024, 08:48 by Omega Tyrant »
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Re: Compilation of fixes, changes, and new ideas for version 0.9.9.9
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2024, 06:54 »

For another potential hotfix for bugs and other issues, here is how I would prioritize the listed bugs and other issues based on how urgent I think they are:

Critical priority
*The trait selection lockup bug. (Uncommon but game-ending when it happens, with no way to salvage your game nor even a mortem in that state, but no apparent cause has yet been identified)

High priority
*Lightfoot Diamond and Angelic badges aren't being awarded when their requirements are fulfilled. (This is likely being caused by indirect kills being erroneously categorized as "melee" kills, which would effectively make these badges impossible to get)
*Dragonslayer doesn't grant any amount of berserk. (Aside from this notorious weapon's signature mechanic not working, this is a potential run ender if picked up by a build without Berserker or Malicious Blades, as you need to be berserked or have Malicious Blades' defensive boosts to survive being locked to a melee-only weapon)
*Halls Of Carnage's lava flood sometimes doesn't activate, allowing you to play the level at whatever pace you desire. (A beneficial bug, but aside from making a special level much easier than intended, this bug seems to occur at random and so it cannot be anticipated if any given run will benefit from this bug or not)
*You can easily softlock in House Of Pain on Nightmare and in Angel Of Darkness if you don't have the Arena Master's Staff, from an enemy reviving in an earlier room while you're locked in a later room. (While there are a couple other special level softlocks, this one stands out as it doesn't require an unwise Phase Device use, but it may not have an easy quick fix that would make this eligible for a hotfix, ideas on how to address it are in the special level section of the OP)

Mid priority
*A Technical mod's resistance boosts on armors/boots get carried over in assemblies that uses a Technical mod, as long as the mod isn't applied last to finish the assembly. (A beneficial bug, but it does make several assemblies better than they're supposed to be)
*Corpses can sometimes be ungibbable by explosions and plasma(tic) shotguns. (I see it frequently happen in House Of Pain's first room, where a Pinky corpse or two will just refuse to gib, but it's unclear what is causing it and that is not the only level it can happen)
*Brute's accuracy bonus is still not being applied properly to thrown knives/Mjollnir.
*When using the look command, you are unable to scroll the screen with your keyboard, preventing keyboard-only players in graphic mode from seeing the whole floor.
*Direct explosive hits seem to have their damage calculation occur after knockback, making them weaker than they should be or even deal no damage at all. (Would list this as high priority but it's a long-standing bug from prior versions and so may not have a simple fix)
 
Low priority
*Sharpshooter's effect doesn't work with the Demolition Pistol and (presumably) the Anti-Freak Jackal. (Could arguably be mid priority, but the affected weapons are rare and Sharpshooter isn't hurt that much by it, so it can be set aside for the next full version if it's not a simple fix)
*When rocket jumping, your targeting cursor can extend beyond immediate adjacent tiles, despite not being able to target any tile beyond that range. Previous versions would just lock its targeting to its valid range, which made rocket jumping around quicker to input. (As a heavy rocket jump user that is very annoyed by this bug, my personal bias wants to label this as mid priority, but it ultimately has little gameplay impact)
*Projectiles can occasionally clip through walls at weird angles, including explosive projectiles going through outer boundary walls without exploding. (Could be quite exploitable in the right circumstances, but happens rarely enough and is usually not impactful enough to be an urgent bug. Needs more testing to determine what causes it, I seen it happen in House Of Pain's first room a couple times in particular but seen it in random floors too)
*Ammo stacks dropped by ammo dispensing lever aren't affected by the difficulty multiplier. (Not sure if this is an actual bug or intended, but it's a minor issue either way)
*In floors beyond level 30 in A100/666, you still predominantly only see lava instead of a greater variety in fluid generation. (Not sure if an actual bug or if the new level 30+ fluid generation formula just has a very heavy bias towards lava, but either way you're not seeing greater fluid variety in deep A100)
*When the Apostle spawns on the final floor of A100/666, it and all enemies that revive/get spawned will be immediately revealed by the enemy reveal mechanic since technically everything dies when you first enter the floor, despite this being a boss fight. (Could arguably be mid or even high priority, but labelling as low priority since very very few people will actually encounter this and since the Apostle hasn't gotten its planned buffs yet that could make it an actually compelling boss fight).
*House Of Pain doesn't have a default song defined in the music.lua file, so it'll play a random song unless you add a proper entry for it in the music.lua file yourself.
*Various UI issues that don't affect gameplay. (see the OP for all that been compiled so far)
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Re: Compilation of fixes, changes, and new ideas for version 0.9.9.9
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2024, 21:19 »

With the release of the first 0.9.9.9 beta, I'm gathering new bugs and other fixes to make regarding it here:

*Screenshots aren't being saved, unless you manually create a folder named "screenshot" in DRL's root folder

Self-explanatory, screenshots aren't saving without the aforementioned manual fix. With this version shaking up the folder structure, and moving the screenshot folder into the "drl" subfolder of the "user" folder, it simply seems the screenshot function hasn't been updated to account for the new folder setup.

*Nightmare's -10% speed penalty may not be working

So before, one of the errors listed was the player info screen not reflecting Nightmare's -10% speed penalty, but after playing Nightmare, it never seemed like I was any slower than usual, and after getting a setup to test with a Cacodemon while I was a Marine wearing equipment that neither sped me up nor slowed me down, I can confirm no speed penalty is applying (as the Cacodemon never got a double move, which it should about every 10 movements if the speed penalty was working).

After farther testing with previous versions back to 0.9.9.6 and Kornel stating he has no recollection of ever adding this "feature", it turns out it may not have actually existed in the first place (or if it did, it was silently removed back in a very old version prior to 0.9.9.6). Kornel also stated he doesn't like the idea of adding difficulty by nerfing the player, so we can probably expect it to never get (re)added to the game. However, there is the question on if enemies could get a universal +10% speed bonus instead (it has a similar effect to the speed penalty but the player won't be given a harder time on any time-sensitive event like a timed nuke level and dealing with N!'s respawning that becomes more frequent the longer the player is on the floor). It would have probably been overkill on old Nightmare that a lot of people found too difficult/unfun even with it lacking the supposed speed penalty, but with the new N! changes making respawns easier to manage and no longer needing to fuss with corpse disposal for kill %, it could be added as a farther means to spruce up N! (as well as assuage any potential complaints from returning players of the changes making N! too easy), and farther replicate the "fast monsters" aspect of actual Doom's N! difficulty (my concern though would be that it could make some barely possible badges like Everyman Angelic veer into the realm of borderline impossibility, either way this should get some discussion).

*Item reveal is not working in Nightmare. Have it activate when all active enemies are dead, or after all unique enemies have been killed once.

The enemy reveal mechanic works as it's supposed to in Nightmare (triggering when there's 3 or less active enemies alive on the floor at once), but item reveal isn't activating, even if everything is dead and you destroy every corpse. Having it activate when you have everything dead at the same time, or after all unique enemies have been killed once, will work.

*The game may crash if you attempt to use the Dragonslayer's altfire, Whirlwind.

When testing the Dragonslayer, the good news is I can confirm the permanent berserk effect now works as it's supposed to. The bad news is, we got yet another game-breaking bug with it, this time the game will get a fatal error if you attempt to use Whirlwind. After reloading saves and testing it some, the bug is not consistent and Whirlwind will sometimes work as it's supposed to, while sometimes it crashes with said fatal error, so I'm unsure what's causing it.

*Technician Gold badge wasn't awarded on the run that fulfilled its condition, and was instead awarded at the end of the immediate next run.

A weird little bug I noticed; after copying over player data I used in prior betas, I did some quick test runs to knock out some more assemblies, so I don't get any Schematics when testing Nightmare, and in the process I finished all the basic assemblies, which should give Technician Gold. However, in the run I did so, I was not awarded Technician Gold, and it was instead awarded in the immediate next run after where I died before I could even make any assemblies. The linked Discord mortems show it, but for additional info, the Power Armor assembly was the last Basic Assembly needed, and in the run I got both the Schematics for it from Armory and created Power Armor immediately after before leaving Armory, so maybe that caused this bug?

*The Mortem's kill ratio message seems to be based on the total enemy kill ratio with respawns factored, rather than the unique enemy kill ratio.

Self-explanatory, so for example if you kill every unique enemy at least once and thus fulfill 100% kills but leave any respawns alive, you won't get the "This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!" message. Badges and medals that have a requisite kill ratio are being properly awarded based on the unique enemy kill count however, so a minor bug.

*If you fulfill the clear condition for a special level (typically having every enemy spawn activated and having everything dead at once) and then leave with any respawns alive, the game will give you the level clear message in the exit text and the Mortem, as well as any badges/medals that require clearing the level, but the level will not be counted as completed for Conqueror.

Another weird bug noticed; I thought with the change to how the enemy kill count works regarding respawns, you could now have special levels be considered complete after fulfilling their complete condition without having to make sure no respawns are up when exiting. If you do complete a level and then exit with any respawns alive, you get some weird half-state of completion; the level's exit text and the Mortem's level history text will be what you get for completing the level (e.g. for The Vaults, the Mortem states "He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!" rather than "He managed to scavenge a part of the Vaults' treasures.", as seen in this mortem), and after testing, I can confirm you still get any badges/medals tied to completing the level (as seen in this mortem, where I still got the Grim Reaper's Pin and Reaper Diamond badge after leaving Limbo with respawns alive), but the level won't be counted as actually completed in the special level count section, so you won't get the Conqueror medal and (presumably) any badges that require achieving a Conqueror run.

*Modding display menu sometimes has inaccurate info.

The new modding display menu is a good addition to inform players what they're actually doing with any mod, but I noticed a couple issues. The first is when applying a bulk mod to armor and (presumably) boots, the display will show the bulk mod making said armor/boots 10% faster when it's the other way around (when applied however, the bulk mod still works as it's supposed to with making your armor/boots -10% slower). The second is when making an assembly like Tactical Boots or the Ripper that requires a second mod of the same type that you normally can't apply, the modding display will show the added effect of the second mod despite being unable to apply it without making the assembly (for example, if assembling Tactical Boots, the effect section will display your Steel Boots going from +10% to +20% speed).

*The game will not allow you to attempt applying Firestorm and Sniper mods to non-compatible equipment, notably preventing you from assembling Demolition Ammo.

Self-explanatory, this issue would also prevent being able to make any future assemblies that require adding a Firestorm or Sniper mod to non-compatible equipment (such as the proposed Scouting and Blastproof Armors).

*If too many sounds play in quick succession, the music will be turned off.

When employing the usual camping strats on Military Base, I noticed the music stopped playing. I saved and reloaded, which got the music playing again, but then I spammed some more run -> wait while nearby all the formers in the locked room and indeed that knocked out the music again. So it seems the cause is simply having too many sounds play at once, which can happen when spamming run -> wait near a group of enemies that can't reach you. The aforementioned saving and reloading restores the music, as does entering the next floor.

*Add ammo pickups to The Mortuary (and possibly Limbo depending on future changes to it).

A major mechanical change that was tested out is respawns no longer dropping any weapons and ammo they inherently have, both enemies revived by Nightmare/Angel of Darkness and by Archviles. With the other major respawn changes (corpses in your vision don't revive in Nightmare/AoD, and respawned enemies of either variety don't count towards the kill counter), this appears to be a fair change (100% kills in Nightmare without playing a melee build is very much viable, while you conversely can no longer farm a full inventory of ammo and Plasma Rifles off of any isolated Former, nor cheese Archviles with Formers on any difficulty to get as much ammo as you want). However, the big concern is Mortuary on any difficulty, as before you could rely on all the respawn ammo drops to soften the huge ammo sink the level normally would be, and even then you would still often come out with a significant net negative in ammo. With respawns no longer dropping ammo, you're outright in danger of running out of ammo or otherwise will likely deplete your ammo to a crippling degree, and if playing Nightmare, I don't see Mortuary being even viable without melee investment + strong melee weapon or having a Nano weapon (the Nuclear BFG helps, but aside from being able to easily get destroyed before picking it up, you can't easily recharge it when you got a bunch of enemies bearing down on you and it's not even that strong). To compensate, I think Mortuary should have ammo added, which can be in the form of at least one ammo box in each corner (have 10mm Ammochain in the top left, Power Battery in top right, Rocket Box in bottom right, and Shell Box in bottom left), and then on Nightmare, double the amount of them. As for Limbo, I think it's fine without added ammo, as aside from being significantly easier, you'll typically deplete much less ammo on it due to having less corpses around, much easier corpse disposal with all the lava, and lava saving you ammo on killing things by hitting them into it. However, if the proposed Blood fluid is added, I'm thinking it should replace the lava on Limbo to put it more on par difficulty-wise with Mortuary, and if it's added exactly as proposed (which means it doesn't damage enemies), perhaps Limbo should get some ammo added too just in case (at least an ammo box of each on Nightmare in the same setup as Mortuary).

*In the Nightmare version of The Vaults, the six Red Armors that are supposed to spawn next to the right vault's Barons may be bugged as it appears only one Red Armor is spawning, and the ease at teleporter camping the center vault's Nightmare enemies should be fixed.

As part of 0.9.9.8's big difficulty buff to The Vaults, on Nightmare it has UV's Arachnotrons and Archviles replaced with their Nightmare versions, and was supposed to spawn Red Armor next to the right vault's six Barons, so that they all have very good armor instead of only having one random armor between them. However, the Red Armors' spawning appears bugged or improperly implemented, as each time I played it, I only ever saw a single Red Armor drop from a right vault Baron each time (and it doesn't appear these Red Armors are accidentally spawning anywhere else, as the left vault with Nightmare Arachnotrons has no armors and I'm not seeing a bunch of Red Armors on the center vault's Barons either). Another issue is due to all Nightmare enemies becoming immune to fluids in 0.9.9.8, the newly added N! Arachnotrons and Archviles can walk over the lava blocking the center vault's teleporters and allow them to escape. Now I don't think this is itself a bad thing, it can add quite the scare factor to the level and it can put you in a really bad spot if a N! Arachnotron or Archvile suddenly pops up in a very awkward time across the long thin halls on the level or when you're trying to clear out one of the side vaults, and when going for the Scavenger badges, you still need to get lucky with Phasing into the center vault as the Barons still can't escape it. However, once you realize this and know both teleporters deposit teleportees right next to the stairs, you can simply camp next to the stairs to more safely kill each of the center vault's Nightmare enemies one-at-a-time, and then once they're all dead, you'll have a much easier time clearing out all the vaults. To prevent this, you can replace the lava blocking the teleporters with walls that can be destroyed conventionally, or by tying them to a lever inside the center vault that will destroy them (just make sure the lever is indestructible so it doesn't get destroyed in the inevitable crossfire when a player phases inside). Alternatively, if you want to keep the Nightmare enemies telporting outside of it, change the teleport destinations so the left teleporter's is as it currently is next to the stairs, while the right teleporter's drops you off on the opposite of the map; this would still allow you to spawn camp some of them (or maybe even all if you're lucky), but some others (or even most if unlucky) will evade the spawn camping and trying such can put you in a very dangerous position if one pops up in an unwanted direction while trying to kill another that just teleported in. I'm ok with either solution; the former makes opening the center vault and phasing into it a ton more dangerous, but the latter makes general exploring of the level paranoia-inducing and can be really evil with its potential to pinsir you between some of the nastiest enemies in the game.

*When using the Dragonslayer/Berserker Set in special levels, make killing the Nightmare Demons/Cacodemons not required for completion.

So to access the super secret Apostle fight, you're supposed to make it to Hell Fortress with the Berserker Set on, which you can find randomly if you're very very lucky, but are intended to fulfill the conditions on Nightmare to get them the guaranteed way. Getting the Dragonslayer works fine enough, but then to get the guaranteed Berserker Armor from Mortuary/Limbo, you have to use the Dragonslayer. Prior to 0.9.9.8, this was very difficult, as being stuck using the Dragonslayer means you can't use any corpse disposal weapon and the Dragonslayer itself can't gib big enemies like the Spear and Scythe since it deals melee damage, but it was doable. 0.9.9.8 however, made it so that just equipping the Dragonslayer now spawns infinite Nightmare Demons, while equipping the Berserker Set spawns infinite Nightmare Cacodemons on top. This is fine on normal floors, but this makes beating Mortuary/Limbo on Nightmare with the Dragonslayer an insane task, as in addition to all the corpses repeatedly reviving, you now got the Nightmare Demons repeatedly spawning, who will also repeatedly revive when killed. When testing I was able to do it... but when playing an AoMC + AoLT game (so I guaranteed one-shot everything and guaranteed gibbed Revenants, Cacos, and Arachnotrons, while having the big speed boost of AoLT both limited damage I took and limited respawns/NDemon spawns), and when having Vampyre (which is near-IDDQD since 0.9.9.8). Even then I got low on health at points, and without AoMC + AoLT, I'm not so sure I could have gotten everything dead at once. I simply don't see beating Mortuary/Limbo on Nightmare with the Dragonslayer being viable with any build except with Vampyre and maybe Blademaster.

The simple fix to this would be to not count the infinitely spawned Nightmare Demons towards the level's completion, that way you won't end up in a state where Nightmare Demons keep spawning/respawning on opposite sides of the map and you're unable to ever get everything dead at once. I would apply this to other special levels too, as it makes completing them much more of a tedious pain (Lava Pits/Erebus could also get out of hand if you get bad luck with the Nightmare Demon spawns, especially since lava doesn't kill them anymore). If it's not possible to program it that way, perhaps the Nightmare Demon/Cacodemon spawning should be disabled on special levels, or if that isn't possible either, then maybe just cap their spawning at like 50 per floor (on any normal floor you shouldn't be ever facing more than that, and as a bonus it also limits some potential cheese strategies where you abuse the infinite Nightmare Demons to puff up your kill ratio).

*Have screen shaking intensity vary based on the strength of the projectile/explosion

A new toggable feature in 0.9.9.9 is the screen shaking whenever an explosion of any sort happens. I do sorta like it, but it's rather janky in its current implementation, as the screen shake is pretty strong and seems to always play at the same intensity, regardless of if it's a 2 damage Imp fireball or a 36 damage rocket. This obviously isn't intuitive, and is rather annoying to see the screen shaking so much when just getting pelted by Imps.

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The following aren't specifically fixes to issues with the new beta, but rather just new ideas for 0.9.9.9 in general I had that I haven't proposed here yet, and I thought I may as well get them out now instead of continuing to sit on them until it's too late:

*Have more badges require at least a standard win.

Currently, with any badge that require winning the game, a partial win will still award it, except for the few that explicitly require a full win. Unless you actually care about your run's score, this makes a standard win and partial win nearly functionally identical, when they will result in earning nearly all the same awards (the only exception is any badge/medal that has a damage limit requirement, as nuking yourself can push you beyond the damage limit, while instantly disqualifying you from any that require damageless). This also makes the Mastermind even more of a nonfactor than she usually is, since as long as you make it to her with a nuke, you can just set it off and get whatever badge(s) you were hunting without any worry of dying to her. As for what badges to change in this regard, I think every Gold to Diamond badge that require winning the game should at least require a standard win (if they don't already require a full win), with the obvious exception of Pacifist Gold (since you can only get a partial win unless you get a second nuke + Invuln near Dis and pull off a double nuke on the Mastermind + JC), and I would also leave out the Angelic badges as a bit of reprieve, since they're absurd enough as is (though if you wanted to make them require a standard win too, Pacifist Angelic would need an obvious exception, and I would make an exception for Everyman Angelic too).

*Have dying to John Carmack count as a normal death instead of as a partial win.

Something I always found a bit weird is how dying to Carmack still counts as you winning the game, and aside from that being unintuitive, due to partial wins being nearly identical to standard wins as described prior, this results in the choice to fight Carmack having no real risk to it. Die to Carmack while on a Diamond badge run? No big deal, you'll still be awarded the badge. If the prior change is implemented to make partial wins less rewarding, this would be less of an issue, though I would still make this change.

*Disallow nukes from being activated in Hell Fortress, and consider having any active powerups get turned off when entering Hell Fortress.

When fighting the Apostle most recently, I noticed the game outright doesn't let you activate a nuke when it spawns, and I thought why not have this apply to Carmack too? The Lava Element only having 9 actions of invulnerability is deliberate to prevent you from getting easy double nukes off on the Mastermind + Carmack, but as long as you find an Invulnerability on Floor 23 and can rocket jump, it's trivial to nuke the Mastermind and then make it to Hell Fortress to nuke Carmack in time too with that single Invuln (and if you have the Trigun, it's possible to get a double nuke on both with just the Lava Element). To get a full win, I think you should be required to actually fight and kill Carmack conventionally, rather than rely on getting lucky with a floor 23 Invuln and skip having to fight him altogether. On another note, perhaps have any active powerups get disabled when entering Hell Fortress too, as even without nuking Carmack, you can take a floor 23 Invuln all the way to him and easily kill him without damage, or at least get most of the work done before he is able to actually fight back (the game already tries to enforce a fair fight by punishing you for trying to shoot him from out of vision, so it'll be fitting for him to depower you upon entering).

*Spruce up Hell Fortress' Apostle fight.

So I finally got to experience fighting the Apostle in Hell Fortress... and it was even more disappointing than the A100/666 fight. No unique entrance text to indicate anything is different, just the standard victory text when winning, and there's nothing different about the level itself, so you just fight the Apostle in a big empty room (which also means its resurrecting abilities don't get displayed, as the only other enemies are the Nightmare Demons/Cacodemons spawned by the Berserker set, which the fight should end before enough of them spawn to really get involved). Aside from more flavor with unique entrance and victory text, and the prior proposed buffs to the Apostle itself, a big way I think the fight could be improved is having a ton of corpses spawn in Hell Fortress with the Apostle, so its resurrecting capabilities actually get put to use.

*In The Lava Pits and Mt. Erebus on Nightmare, remove the last remaining Radsuit.

Previously I proposed have difficulty-dependent Radsuits on Lava Pits and Erebus to make them more appropriately difficult on the harder difficulties, which was implemented. When finally playing Nightmare however, I noticed the last Radsuit was not removed. Considering Lava Pits and Erebus see no real difficulty increase on N! as is compared to UV, other than a moderately more durable Lava Elemental, having no Radsuits on the level should be a fair change, especially since Radsuits last longer on N! and you can get more use of that single Radsuit than you could on UV (well Erebus needs way more than that, but even if its difficulty is buffed up elsewhere as I proposed before, I think it should still have the Radsuit removed).

*Allow Firestorm mods to be compatible with explosive weapons that have an explosion radius smaller than 3, having them increase these weapons' explosion radius by +1 instead of the usual +2.

Currently, there's an odd restriction with the Firestorm mod, where explosive weapons with an explosion radius of 1 or 2 cannot be modded with it (with the exception of the Tristar Blaster). This restriction doesn't make any real sense and is completely unintuitive (even Icy mistakenly thought you could apply Firestorm mods to small explosion weapons, as you can see in his guide to the Napalm Launcher here), as well as needlessly farther limits the utility of a rare mod that is already limited in its usage. If there's concern of a Tactical Rocket Launcher/Napalm Launcher having its explosion radius increased from 2 to 4 or a Demolition Pistol having its radius increased from 1 to 3 being too strong, then simply have the Firestorm mod give these weapons only a +1 radius boost rather than +2.

*Let the Lava Element appear as a random drop.

The Lava Element is an item with some potentially interesting applications beyond just serving as a guaranteed means to get a full win, as a source of temporary on-demand Invuln at any time. However, even if not saving it for a full win, you only have it for a single random floor you likely won't have any trouble with and then Dis, while you can never get it in A100 where you'll be much more probable to come across a floor that you would actually want to use it. As such, I think it would be neat if you could get the Lava Element outside of Lava Pits/Erebus as a random drop if you're lucky and get to play with it in more interesting scenarios beyond "set off nuke, pop Lava Element at 2 seconds left". You could give it a spawning weight of 3 or 2, and if you want to make the random drop of it an A100/666 exclusive, then set the spawning depth at 30+ .

*More Angelic badge ideas for existing special level sets

I previously thought up ideas of badge sets for special levels that currently have none, so why not potential ideas for completing the sets that already go up to Diamond?

Reaper Angelic: Clear The Mortuary/Limbo on N! in Angel of Humanity. (This is certainly a lot harder than Reaper Diamond, and gives you a reason to actually play AoH on Nightmare).

Scavenger Angelic: Clear The Vaults by luck on N! in Angel of Light Travel. (I don't think just upping it to Nightmare is enough compared to Scavenger Diamond, so the AoLT stipulation will add even more luck to it as you won't be able to stockpile much Phase Devices nor much rockets for a Napalm Launcher, nevermind the added difficulty of just making it to The Vaults with limited ammo and medkits in your inventory that you're sacrificing to fit Phase Devices and rockets in).

Longinus Angelic: Unsure, perhaps clear Unholy Cathedral on N! without Brute, Finesse, and Hellrunner, while excluding AoMC and AoLT? (Restricting Finesse and Hellrunner means outspeeding strategies will need some very specific equipment, particularly a Ripper or else you'll need to spend hours throwing a knife, or a very very good melee armor or two with a Hatred Skull or lots of medkits, might still be too easy for an Angelic badge but could be ok if the proposed change of adding Nightmare Demons to UC on N! is implemented)

Arena Angelic: I'm unsure of this one too, maybe clear Hell's Arena on Nightmare in Archangel of Humanity? (It is difficult to think of something harder than current Arena Diamond without pushing it into the realm of impossibility or lottery luck, and I'm thinking Archangel of Humanity is the only viable option here; you're not restricted to melee-only, but missing out on those two or three extra traits is very significant and of course you only have 10-14 max HP, I think it could be harder than AoB but shouldn't be impossible with the implemented Nightmare changes)
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