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Author Topic: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!  (Read 7362 times)

arch_8ngel

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.8.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Bobby Prince, level 10 Cacodemon Lieutenant, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 94292 turns and scored 89556 points.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 397 out of 462 hellspawn. (86%)
 He was an Angel of Marksmanship!

 He found the Phobos Arena.
 He stormed the Chained Court.
 He ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
 He found the Hell's Armory.
 He faced The Wall.
 He wandered into the Unholy Cathedral.
 He was caught in the Mortuary!
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 75/50   Experience 41855/10
  ToHit +3  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Finesse        (Level 2)
    Hellrunner     (Level 1)
    Tough as nails (Level 1)
    Son of a gun   (Level 3)
    Eagle Eye      (Level 1)
    Whizkid        (Level 2)

  SoG->SoG->SoG->Fin->Fin->WK->WK->TaN->HR->EE->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   red armor [4/4] (54%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   advanced pistol (2d10) [8/13] (D3R3S3M3)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   plasteel boots [8/8] (93%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   advanced pistol (2d4) [6/6]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [b] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [c] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [d] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [i] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [j] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [k] 10mm ammo (x18)
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] large med-pack
    [q] large med-pack
    [r] large med-pack

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    53 former humans
    42 former sergeants
    20 former captains
    39 imps
    41 demons
    32 lost souls
    32 cacodemons
    20 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    17 hell knights
    38 arachnotrons
    5 former commandos
    7 pain elementals
    8 arch-viles
    8 mancubi

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 7 he found Hell's Armory.
  On level 8 he witnessed the Wall.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.
  On level 11 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
  On level 22 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  He managed to escape from the Mortuary!
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 You reload the pistol with 10mm ammo.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon
 reloads his rocket launcher. The Cyberdemon loses blood.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target... The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon
 dies. Congratulations! You defeated the Cyberdemon! Press <Enter>

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 20 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 20 of those were killed.

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After seeing this done earlier (and whipping the special ending) I had to try it for myself.
Didn't find a single nuke, so no hope for the same glory, though...

I'd never been to the Mortuary before, so I didn't know quite what to expect...
I should have had a little more patience and cleaned it up, because I think I could have.
I did kill three archviles, but I wasn't sure if they were reviving each other, or if the place
would be limited to the 4 that I read where there.

Cyberdemon...a joke with that pistol.  He fired once...I fired about 30 times...

I intend to try this again on a harder difficulty and see how far I can push it.
It was nice to play AoMr and not just be stuck with the same crappy gun the whole time.

-Nathan
« Last Edit: May 06, 2007, 15:17 by arch_8ngel »
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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2007, 15:21 »

The only reason viles will ever rez each other is if they are in each other's LOS.  If you kill two on the one side of the room, unless the other two make it over there the ones you kill are effectively dead.  If you do find two within your LOS at the same time, take them both down in health before they get their turns, then kill both before they get a chance to raise or fire off a flame pillar again.
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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2007, 15:24 »

I'll keep that in mind.

I think the two on the left managed to rez each other once, but after cleaning up that half, a third made it to the middle.
I didn't bother finding the fourth, because I was a little worried I'd deplete my ammo reserves too much in the process.
I'll be better prepared this time around.
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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2007, 16:02 »

AVs don't ressurect each other! As i know... Or i missed something?
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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2007, 16:33 »

Well, they were out of my LoS when I thought they resurrected, but I definitely saw one leave a corpse...
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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2007, 18:19 »

AVs don't ressurect each other! As i know... Or i missed something?

AVs can definitely raise each other if one leaves a corpse.  This happened to me once in an AoMr game when my speed wasn't quite up to snuff and it made me pretty nervous until I finally managed to weaken both enough to make it possible to kill both before either one could react.
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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2007, 05:30 »

Hmm. I always thought they can't. That's unfair. In original DooM AV can ressurect anything but other AVs, Cyberdemons and Mastermind Spiders.

Kornel, they really can ressurect each other?
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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2007, 06:52 »

Seems like they should be a corpse-less creature...they're some sort of wraith more than anything else, right?
I mean...a self-immolating skeleton shouldn't really have much left over when the flame goes out.
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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2007, 02:43 »

I'm pretty sure AV's can't ressurect other AV's. They leave a nameless corpse (well its unique to AV corpse, but different to normal corpses).
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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2007, 15:48 »

They really shouldn't.  Not in the original, and really not in here, 'less it's a bug or it's attended for DRL.

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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2007, 15:57 »

Fighting 3-4 AVs side by side, killing them one at a time and with them having time to react (having slow, unmodded weapons), I have never seen an AVs resurrect another AV. So the way I see it, they can't. If I'm wrong, then I'm one lucky bastard :P

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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2007, 21:56 »

I think you're just a lucky bastard. :P Try and get in another situation like that, with no other corpses or monsters around, and see if it happens again.  I KNOW what I saw.. I didn't just imagine killing one AV only to watch it being raised again to my horror... It may have only been one game, but I don't intend on taking chances.
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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2007, 06:25 »

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[ Weapon     ]   advanced pistol (2d10) [8/13] (D3R3S3M3)
How did you get that ? Didnt damage mods only give +1 to damage ? Thus, shouldnt it be 2d7 ?
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Re: [M|AoMr|86%|WIN!] YAVP - wow mods turn the tables!!!
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2007, 08:29 »

How did you get that ? Didnt damage mods only give +1 to damage ? Thus, shouldnt it be 2d7 ?

It could be done with use of the bug that i described here.
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2007, 04:42 »

I think you're just a lucky bastard. :P Try and get in another situation like that, with no other corpses or monsters around, and see if it happens again.  I KNOW what I saw.. I didn't just imagine killing one AV only to watch it being raised again to my horror... It may have only been one game, but I don't intend on taking chances.
This happens often enough playing on UV, and I doubt I'm that lucky. Anyway, the other day I had a chance to fight 2 AVs and something else. One AV was alive, the other two dead. The AV resurrects that 3rd monster, and as I'm working to kill it again, I remember this thread, and keep an eye on the out-of-LOS AV corpse. Nothing seemed to happen. I'm 90% sure there was nothing else for the AV to resurrect, especially considering that the 3rd creature was resurrected again the moment I killed it. My guess is that what you saw was another AV moving on to the corpse of a previous AV, which could be a corpse quite far into your LOS, considering AVs are very fast on the move.
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