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Bug Reports / Re: Now this is an interesting sight...
« on: March 03, 2007, 14:00 »
Well, I think just rounding percents down would be a good solution.
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Pre-0.9.9 / Re: [M|AoB|92%|Win] second try on AoB
« on: March 03, 2007, 09:55 »EDIT:
1. hmm what font should I use for correct screenshot-display?
2. aah, my traits were Br-Br-Br-Be-Hr-Hr-Be-To-To
1. Put screenshot into [code ] [/code ] tags (without the spaces)
2. Consider only taking 2 levels of brute next time and invest more into berserker. That 4 damage isn't really anything compared to berserking more often once you have the chainsaw and even more so once you get the spear.
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Requests For Features / Re: New Artifact Item: Special Boots
« on: March 03, 2007, 09:38 »They could increase your speed a little like the hellrunner trait
They could prevent knockback, stopping those pesky seargents from blasting you three spaces backwards into that hot lava!
These sound reasonable, they don't have a too big impact on the game and how you play it, but the effect is noticeable.
They could teleport you once per level, at will, as if you always had at least one phase device in your posession, use it by using the boots like items.
They could increase your speed a LOT once per level, as if you were at beserk speed, activated by "U"sing the boots as items.
These seem too powerful to me, balancing out the effects of these would be a pain and the item would have to appear late in the game.
The first one would reduce the importance of phase devices. The latter would have almost the same result in giving you huge advantage for a single fight. Both would make the game a lot easier once you obtain them.
They could fly, meaning you can't pick up items (if only activated once per level) or totally ignore acid, lava, and water (too overpowered, if you ask me, unless you activate it once per level.) Again, activate it like an item.
If you call them flippers of the zora, you could use that water some more-- maybe submerge yourself in the water, giving added damage reduction/reduced to hit? Or increased speed in the water? Something.
They could allow you to move very quietly, reducing the monsters ability to notice you, effectively lowering their site radius, or something.
These affect how the game works. As lava/acid isn't usually that big of an issue, the first one isn't overpowered to me.
The second one would be a flawor item, but as there isn't much water later in the game, could be just useless.
I don't know if the third one could be easily implemented. Can't really say how big the impact on gameplay would be.
HERE is an idea i REALLY like, please consider this:
The boots could allow you to "dash" in a straight line, up to a certain number of squares. This would be done as follows. You activate the boots like an item, or press some keybind button, and the targeting screen comes up. You can move the target so many spaces away from you, say, i don't know, 4 spaces, and then there's an animation of your little @ sign moving over to that square, really fast. No time/rounds would pass during this period. In effect, it's a controlled telport a short distance away, basically the "Controlled Blink" spell in Linley's Dungeon crawl but with a cooler animation. This could be REALLY REALLY powerful, so the DOWNside is that first and foremost, it's really short ranged, and either A. you could only do it once per level, or B. using this "dash" skill damages the boots AND can only be done every so often-like, once every "three minutes" or so. (I don't know how game rounds operate, so sue me.)
Well, this is horribly "undoomish". While I guess this could be balanced, it would probably not be so easy. The penalties for using it would have to be quite severe, as this can easily get you out of msot dangerous situations, again making the game quite a lot easier.
They could allow you to kick, Duke Nukem Style, so each melee attack you make WITHOUT a knife or chainsaw or LS adds knockback to your attack. (So, whenever you melee with a gun, or are unarmed, you knockback your enemy.) This one could be good or bad, or way too overpowered. Discuss, please!
I would most of the time see this as a penalty, but I guess I would be kicking demons if I had these.
Boot Functionality: Any number of things! They could, of course, do the same old thing: just be really powerful boots: 16/16 or 12/12.
"Just stronger boots" won't work IMO. I mean, ask yourself do yuo really care for boots at the moment? From my experiences at last you pick them up once and than forget about them for the rest of the game... I don't recall having boots actually destroyrd during playing.
Here I have to agree with Malek. Boots aren't ususally an issue once you get your first pair of plasteel ones.
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Bug Reports / Re: Now this is an interesting sight...
« on: March 03, 2007, 07:07 »
I think the game just rounded the number up to 100%. Say, you'd need 10000 exp for level 7 and you had 9998 exp so the game shows that you have 100%, but it means that you'r just closer to 100% than to 99%. I've had a few games with all but one kill and it showed it as 100%.
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Bug Reports / Re: Prepared Weapons can't be accessed by number-keys
« on: March 03, 2007, 06:38 »
Though I haven't used the shortcuts for weapons for some time, I think it would make sense to swap weapons when you press the shortcut for the weapon in your secondary weapon slot.
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Discussion / Re: What's the most out-of-depth item you've found in this game?
« on: March 02, 2007, 04:50 »also shouldnt there be more kinds of melee weps? for AoB?
Well, this is a shooter game, so I don't see any problems with having three already, out of which two are very useful.
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Berserk! / Re: Berserk! 0.8 Srvival Guide (almost complete version)
« on: February 25, 2007, 14:11 »QuoteImps
*snip*
You can also kill them with knives if you don't have time to reload or can't get out of melee fast. Knives are an excellent option while berserking.QuoteCrossbow
*snip*
For other purposes, it doesn't deal enough damage, so there usually isn't much point.
Actually I found it preferrable to use knives first (one hit should do about 75% of time) and save crossbow for other uses, like weakening Bulldemons and Mandragoras. (And it does quite nice at that IMO)
Well, this does depend on your strength, but I still think that you should save some knives for the situations where you really need them for killing Imps, which is the reason I normally prefer crossbow. I'll say something additional about this in the quide once I know how knife damage is calculated.
QuoteWraithsOdd, never noticed that - was it confirmed by source-diving?
*snip*
They are also immune to missile weapons (crossbow/knives).
I think it was, but now I'm not sure anymore if it was only a resistance or immunity. Forgot to mention that skeletons have the same resistance/immunity too.
QuoteTreantsI seem to recall a flag in source that (and/or Foresters) made them more vulnerable to "flame" (bombs and cannon?) damage. But duble check that, as it has been some time since I took a look at the sources.
*snip*
Yeah, it's in the sources, forgot to mention this. I'll add it immediately.
QuoteWillpowerIt also increases how fast you accumulate berserk.
*snip*
I'll add this too, though I want to also find out how much exactly. I'll then add the effects to the table too.
QuoteCannonIt's a minor thing but there should be mentonet that it knockbacks the player (this can have some tactical use)
*snip*
Another thing to add.
Overall good work, nice guide :)
Thanks.
Also thanks for the comments.
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Berserk! / Possible improvement of skills in Berserk[0.8]
« on: February 25, 2007, 13:58 »
Right now, I see some problems with a part of the skills in Berserk. Some of the skills are highly situational, some are only of minor use, while others are all-around useful.
Sweep:
Sweep is an exellent skills, as it isn't too expensive and can be used all of the time, though you do need some points in dexterity to make it actually useful.
Whirlwind:
The problem with whirlwind is that it is worth using only in some desperate situations, which should be avoided. Some ways to make it better would be to have the energy cost be depended on the number of monsters you actually hit, so that it could be used as a larger sweep.
Running:
Running is again a good skill, as you can run out of tough situations. Perhaps another skill that would work like this, but would make basic attacks faster?
Impale:
Well, I'm not a big friend of impale, but it might just be me not able to think outside of the box. The problem I see with this is that when it gets crowded and I would really like to kill something quickly, it's a bit hard to get exactly one step away from it to impale it. Might just be quicker to kill it normally.
Jumping Attack:
Jumping Attack helps a bit to the problem I see with impale, but I still need to have the free space, and this one has a list of requirements.
Because of this I just usually prefer to start with good old sweep and advance to whirlwind or running. And because I usually want to have as high dexterity as possible, I might just go without either of them and put my points to dexterity.
Do you have suggestions for possible new skills and improvements for the current ones?
And please prove me wrong in the case of Impale/Jumping Attack.
Sweep:
Sweep is an exellent skills, as it isn't too expensive and can be used all of the time, though you do need some points in dexterity to make it actually useful.
Whirlwind:
The problem with whirlwind is that it is worth using only in some desperate situations, which should be avoided. Some ways to make it better would be to have the energy cost be depended on the number of monsters you actually hit, so that it could be used as a larger sweep.
Running:
Running is again a good skill, as you can run out of tough situations. Perhaps another skill that would work like this, but would make basic attacks faster?
Impale:
Well, I'm not a big friend of impale, but it might just be me not able to think outside of the box. The problem I see with this is that when it gets crowded and I would really like to kill something quickly, it's a bit hard to get exactly one step away from it to impale it. Might just be quicker to kill it normally.
Jumping Attack:
Jumping Attack helps a bit to the problem I see with impale, but I still need to have the free space, and this one has a list of requirements.
Because of this I just usually prefer to start with good old sweep and advance to whirlwind or running. And because I usually want to have as high dexterity as possible, I might just go without either of them and put my points to dexterity.
Do you have suggestions for possible new skills and improvements for the current ones?
And please prove me wrong in the case of Impale/Jumping Attack.
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Berserk! / Berserk! 0.8 Survival Guide (almost complete version)
« on: February 25, 2007, 13:03 »
General survival strategies
First some general approaches and strategies. Normally you want to be engaged in combat every turn possible, because the monsters will be spawning regardless of what you do, so you'd better kick their ass before there are too many. You should also try to be fighting the monsters one at a time if possible, though later this won't be possible.
Here are some really simple examples:
Monsters
As beasts are the basic sword fodder you shouldn't have problems with them. If you do, try a different character build, and try to take them one at a time.
Bulldemons
Now that the bulldemons have an impale attack, they are pretty dangerous. Here you have to take advantage of the fact that they will only do horizontal and vertical charges. You should also hit them diagonally if possible, because if you hit them horizontally or verically and knock them back, you might just get impaled before your next turn. You should also take advantage of obstacles, as they can't be knocked back when they are fighting back against a wall.
When a bulldemon is at charge distance you generally have two options.
Also, when running away from bulldemons, don't ever run to a spot where they can impale you.
Now, this is pretty obvious and easy with one bulldemon, just watch out when you meet them in numbers, as they become really dangerous in groups.
Mandagores
Mandagores are pretty easy to handle, but they can take a shitload of damage. Because of this you end up having to handle them while getting other monsters attacking at the same time, and possibly gathering a lot of mandagores before you get rid of them.
The key here is that you will have two actions while they only have one, so you can attack, retreat and repeat until they are dead. You also hit them quite often, so you can knock them back, wait or move sideways, and hit them again.
Mandagores are actually a bit faster than this so even if you do this perfectly, they will hit you every once in a while.
And now with examples:
Imps
Imps shoot you every turn hitting very often. As they will be dealing damage to you while you're busy killing a lot of other foes, taking out Imps should almost always be your number one priority. 3 crossbow bolts should take care of an imp, so killing them isn't a problem when you're not engaged in melee with another enemy. Just remember to reload that crossbow. You can also kill them with knives if you don't have time to reload or can't get out of melee fast. Knives are an excellent option while berserking.
Phasehounds
Phasehound is a pretty fast monster with high dexterity. They don't have that many hitpoints, but as they have high dexterity, they will evade your blows often and will also hit you often. Their special ability is that they will teleport away from you when they have low hitpoints and will also regenerate slowly.
In general, if you're facing many phasehounds, you should try to focus on killing one, because if you divide your blows between them the others will heal a bit while you're swinging your sword at another one. Killing them should also be a pretty high priority as they hit often causing some pain.
Devourers
Devourers have a nasty triple purpose shooting attack. They shoot spores which will explode in about 5 turns, dealing some damage to you and a little damage to other monsters.
If the attack hits an enemy, they will turn dark green. Now you really want to kill them immediately because... After a while they turn bright green, and if you kill them then, they will explode like a spore. Green enemies won't use their special attacks. You can also try to use the exploding spores to take care of infected enemies.
If this attack hits you it deals damage and about 5 points of pain, which is really nasty when you're fighting a group of enemies at the same time.
When dealing with devourers, pay attention to the spores. The spores can be destroyed before they explode, which is a good option at times. The devourers themselves have almost as many hitpoints as mandagores, but they will end up taking damage from their spores so you usually don't have to do all the damage yourself. They also have the dexterity of a mandagore, so if you have good dexterity, they won't be hitting you often.
With more than one devourer there will be quite a lot of explosions, but as long as you keep an eye on the spores you should be able to handle it without taking much damage.
Devourers can also be your best friends. If you have multiple wraiths around and lots of other monsters, you can try to use the spores to kill, or at least harm, them. They won't take much damage, but when it's really crowded, a lot of them will be taking damage, so you could use them to kill a horde of skeletons, or at least a part of it.
Wraiths
If you have seen one of these, you probably hate and fear them already. They raise an army of skeletons at a frightening speed and are quite capable of killing you in melee combat. They are also immune to missile weapons (crossbow/knives).
The difficulty of killing a wraith depends very much on the stage of the game. If you are playing endless mode and get one early some night, it should be pretty easy to kill, at least compared to killing one halfway through the night, when there are lots of corpses for the wraiths to raise and loads of other monsters for you to take care of.
The skeletons aren't tough, they have very low dexterity, they are slower than you are, and they have the hitpoints of a beast. But there can be a horrifying number of them. And if someone else causes pain to you, they will start hitting you, and it will hurt. While berserking you can just swim through them.
The faster you can get to a Wraith after one is generated, the better. You will be warned in two ways about them. The game will say "The smell of death!" and a random amount of skeletons will spawn.
If the wraith has already summoned an army when you find it, it might be an excellent situation to use a bomb or two, especially in endless mode where you get two bombs at the end of each night.
Another thing to consider while having a wraith around: If you have to choose between killing a beast and killing a skeleton, take it into account that the beast will leave a corpse, while the skeleton will not, and the wraith can raise the corpse into another skeleton.
Berserking helps immensely, as you can focus on killing the wraith even while being surrounded by enemies, because you are immune to pain and also have all the nice bonuses from berserking.
Forest only monsters:
There are three monsters that only appear in forests. They replace some of the aforementioned monsters.
Scavengers
Scavengers replace bulldemons. They have high dexterity (the same as phasehounds), so they are good at hitting and evading. They have below avarage strength. They have pretty low hitpoints, but they can eat corpses from the ground, which will heal them.
Taking out scavengers shouldn't be a problem, but if there are lots of corpses around when you fight them, they can be a pain. You should, if possible, take them on at a corpseless spot.
Foresters
Foresters appear most of the time instead of wraiths, but it is still possible, though unlikely, that a wraith will spawn in a forest. Foresters are a bit like wraiths, but they plant living trees. The difference here is that they summon a smaller amount of monsters, but the monsters are much tougher.
They have about the same strength as bulldemons and average dexterity. They have quite a lot of hitpoints, a bit less than mandagores and around the same as devourers. They are also a bit slow, as slow as skeletons.
When you encounter a forester, take it out fast before there are too many treants. And while you are killing it, watch out for the treants, they hit quite hard.
Both foresters and treants are flammable, meaning that they take double damage from fire attacks. Bombs and cannon deal fire damage.
Treants
Treants are an extreme version of mandagores. They are slower, have more hitpoints, hit almost as hard and have lower dexterity.
Pretty much everything said about mandagores applies here. These guys are slower than mandagores, so if you follow the hit & retreat pattern, you will never get hit. It's just that these guys can handle even more damage than the mandagores, so if you have an army of these around, be ready to spend some time. Usually you shouldn't meet more than 5 per forester, but sometimes you really will see an army of living trees if the forester has had too much time planting.
Stats
Strength
Strength increases damage. And that's pretty much it. There are also strength requirements for several skills.
Dexterity
Dexterity inreases your chance to hit monsters and decreases the monsters chance to hit you. It's the most useful out of the four stats, but also has double cost.
**Add details about hitting and dodging**
Endurance
Endurance increases your hitpoints and energy by 5 points each level. Endurance also increases weight, which is used to calculate how far/often you are knocked back. It isn't very useful, but endurance 12 is a requirement for the running skill.
**Add weight effect here**
Willpower
Willpower increases your energy by 5 points each level. It also affects how often you regenerate energy and pain. If you are berserking and your hitpoints are below your willpower, you will stay in berserk until you use fairydust. Willpower also affects how fast you accumulate berserk.
In order to explain the exact effects of willpower, I need to explain the way Berserk!'s speedsystem works first. Everything in Berserk! works in ticks. Each tick you get certain figure added to you speedcount and another figure added to your willcount. Once the figure reaches 1000, an action follows, and the figure in question gets reduced by another figure (moving and attacking cost 1000). In case of speed you get a turn and in case of willpower you regenerate one point of energy and/or pain.
What is this figure? In case of speed it's just your speed, which is 95+dexterity. In case of willpower it's willpower^2(=willpower*willpower).
The following table shows how many additional points of energy you get, how many ticks it takes to regenerate energy/pain, how many points of energy you regenerate per 10 ticks (you get a turn about every 10 ticks, sometimes 9) and how big of a percentual increase you get to regeneration.
Skills
Sweep
Sweep is a wide range attack, attacking 3 squares at a time. Sweep also gives -2 to damage and -3 to hit, so don't be suprised if you don't hit anyone with a low dexterity.
Sweep is an excellent skill, because it can be used all the time.
Requirement: Strength 12.
Whirlwind
With whirlwind you attack all of the 8 squares around you. It's pretty much unusable until you get it to level 3 because of its high speed and energy costs. Even then, it's a really situational skill. Most of the time you could just sweep and retreat and get better results. Whirlwind also has a high strength requirement. However, sometimes you can't avoid getting swarmed, and at those moments, attacking 8 monsters at a time can prove to be a lifesaver.
Requirements: Strength 16, Sweep attack level 2
Running
Every point in running decreases the energy and time costs of running. Running is a useful skills as it makes you both run faster and consume less energy while doing so.
Impale Attack
With Impale you make a one square charge. It increases your damage by 50% and gives you +1 to hit.
Requirements: Strength 14, Running level 1
Jumping Attack
With jumping attack you jump over a monster and impale it.
Requirements: Dexterity 12, Running level 1, Impale attack level 1
Items
Crossbow
Crossbow shoots 3 bolts each time you fire with it, and has a clip of 12 bolts. Cannot be used while in melee. Crossbow gets great benefits from higher dexterity, as you stop missing. Crossbow should mainly be used for killing imps. For other purposes, it doesn't deal enough damage, so there usually isn't much point.
Knives
Knife's damage depends on your strength and can be used while in melee. You should think about knife as a backup weapon for crossbows, because you can use them in situations where you can't use crossbow, but you don't have that many of them available, and with lower strength you won't be killing imp's with a single knife that often. As their damage is calculated from your strength, their damage raises considerably while berserking.
**add knife damage here**
Cannon
Cannon's damage reduces on the way, so you deal the highest damage against the monsters next to you, and less damage to those farther away. Don't expect to kill every mandagore on sight with it, but they will be injured, and you will kill pretty much every beast and skeleton on the line of fire.
Cannon also knocks you back a few squares.
Bombs
Bombs explode on impact or on the spot you aim them at. They are an excellent weapon to get rid of an army of beasts or skeletons quickly, though it can be a bit hard to find a straight line to a good spot.
**Bomb damage here**
Fairydust
Fairydusts heal you to full health and remove all pain. They also stop berserking.
BERSERKING
**Effects of berserking here**
Notes and stuff to be added
There's still some stuff that needs to be added, you can find some notes there where I plan to add some stuff.
I'd like someone who plays characters with impale and jumping attack to tell me why they are good/worth taking, as I myself almost never take them.
The text for cannon and bombs is horrible. If someone can help me rephrase those sections, I would be glad.
As for stuff that isn't there yet but needs to be before I consider this done, here's a list:
Also, if you see any grammar errors, feel free to tell me about them.
First some general approaches and strategies. Normally you want to be engaged in combat every turn possible, because the monsters will be spawning regardless of what you do, so you'd better kick their ass before there are too many. You should also try to be fighting the monsters one at a time if possible, though later this won't be possible.
Here are some really simple examples:
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.......
...b...
.......
.b.@...
.......
Here you have generally two options.
Following the philosophy of handling one enemy at a time you can do this:
....... | ....... | ....... | .......
....b.. | ....... | ....... | .......
....... | ....b.. | ....... | .......
..b.@.. | ..b.@.. | ...b@.. | ....@..
....... | ....... | ....... | .......
First step left, having the top beast coming to you and killing it.
Then the other beast comes to you and you kill it too.*
....... | ....... | .......
....b.. | ....... | .......
....... | ....b.. | .......
..b.@.. | ...b@.. | ....@..
....... | ....... | .......
Another option is to try and kill them both with sweep. Here you wait
and both beasts come to you, then you sweep and hopefully they both die.
Monsters
As beasts are the basic sword fodder you shouldn't have problems with them. If you do, try a different character build, and try to take them one at a time.
Bulldemons
Now that the bulldemons have an impale attack, they are pretty dangerous. Here you have to take advantage of the fact that they will only do horizontal and vertical charges. You should also hit them diagonally if possible, because if you hit them horizontally or verically and knock them back, you might just get impaled before your next turn. You should also take advantage of obstacles, as they can't be knocked back when they are fighting back against a wall.
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....#.. | .....T.
/####.. | ..T....
..B.... | ..@BT..
..@.... | .......
Here are two examples of where you can safely attack
the bulldemon without having to worry about knocking it back.
When a bulldemon is at charge distance you generally have two options.
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....... | ....... | .......
....... | ..@.... | ..@B...
..@.B.. | ....B.. | .......
....... | ....... | .......
PLAYER BULLDEMON
MOVES MOVES
You can step sideways so that it will walk to you,
but hitting it here risks knocking it back and getting impaled:
....... | ....... | .......
..@B... | ..@.B.. | ..@B...
....... | ....... | .......
....... | ....... | .......
PLAYER BULLDEMON
HITS AND IMPALES
KNOCKS
BACK
....... | .......
....... | ...@...
..@.B.. | ....B..
....... | .......
You can also make a diagonal step.
This will make you get hit once, but you get into a good position.
Also, when running away from bulldemons, don't ever run to a spot where they can impale you.
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....... | .......
.B@.... | .B.@...
....... | .......
....... | .......
If you step to the right here, you will be at a perfect impale spot when the bulldemon gets its turn.
....... | ....... | .......
.B@.... | .B..... | .......
....... | ...@... | ..B@...
....... | ....... | .......
Instead you should make a diagonal step, so when the bulldemon gets its turn,
you will be impossible to impale and so it will walk next to you.
Now, this is pretty obvious and easy with one bulldemon, just watch out when you meet them in numbers, as they become really dangerous in groups.
Mandagores
Mandagores are pretty easy to handle, but they can take a shitload of damage. Because of this you end up having to handle them while getting other monsters attacking at the same time, and possibly gathering a lot of mandagores before you get rid of them.
The key here is that you will have two actions while they only have one, so you can attack, retreat and repeat until they are dead. You also hit them quite often, so you can knock them back, wait or move sideways, and hit them again.
Mandagores are actually a bit faster than this so even if you do this perfectly, they will hit you every once in a while.
And now with examples:
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....... | ....... | .......
.M@.... | .M@.... | ..M@...
....... | ....... | .......
....... | ....... | .......
HIT RETREAT
Repeat until mandagore dies.
And now with a beast coming at the same time:
....... | ....... | .......
.M@.... | .M.@... | ..M@...
....... | ...b... | .......
..b.... | ....... | .......
Here instead of hitting, you step back and the beast comes to you and
you use this turn to kill the beast. The mandagore uses this turn to
come to you and you can continue normally.
....... | ....... | .......
....... | ....... | .......
..M@... | .M.@... | ..M@...
....... | ....... | .......
HIT WAIT
Here you hit the mandagore and knock it back, then you wait for it to
come to you and attack again. You can also step sideways to retreat from
other monsters while you're handling the mandagore or you can step backwards
to get distance between you and the mandagore to handle other threaths
before returning to the mandagore killing.
Imps
Imps shoot you every turn hitting very often. As they will be dealing damage to you while you're busy killing a lot of other foes, taking out Imps should almost always be your number one priority. 3 crossbow bolts should take care of an imp, so killing them isn't a problem when you're not engaged in melee with another enemy. Just remember to reload that crossbow. You can also kill them with knives if you don't have time to reload or can't get out of melee fast. Knives are an excellent option while berserking.
Phasehounds
Phasehound is a pretty fast monster with high dexterity. They don't have that many hitpoints, but as they have high dexterity, they will evade your blows often and will also hit you often. Their special ability is that they will teleport away from you when they have low hitpoints and will also regenerate slowly.
In general, if you're facing many phasehounds, you should try to focus on killing one, because if you divide your blows between them the others will heal a bit while you're swinging your sword at another one. Killing them should also be a pretty high priority as they hit often causing some pain.
Devourers
Devourers have a nasty triple purpose shooting attack. They shoot spores which will explode in about 5 turns, dealing some damage to you and a little damage to other monsters.
If the attack hits an enemy, they will turn dark green. Now you really want to kill them immediately because... After a while they turn bright green, and if you kill them then, they will explode like a spore. Green enemies won't use their special attacks. You can also try to use the exploding spores to take care of infected enemies.
If this attack hits you it deals damage and about 5 points of pain, which is really nasty when you're fighting a group of enemies at the same time.
When dealing with devourers, pay attention to the spores. The spores can be destroyed before they explode, which is a good option at times. The devourers themselves have almost as many hitpoints as mandagores, but they will end up taking damage from their spores so you usually don't have to do all the damage yourself. They also have the dexterity of a mandagore, so if you have good dexterity, they won't be hitting you often.
With more than one devourer there will be quite a lot of explosions, but as long as you keep an eye on the spores you should be able to handle it without taking much damage.
Devourers can also be your best friends. If you have multiple wraiths around and lots of other monsters, you can try to use the spores to kill, or at least harm, them. They won't take much damage, but when it's really crowded, a lot of them will be taking damage, so you could use them to kill a horde of skeletons, or at least a part of it.
Wraiths
If you have seen one of these, you probably hate and fear them already. They raise an army of skeletons at a frightening speed and are quite capable of killing you in melee combat. They are also immune to missile weapons (crossbow/knives).
The difficulty of killing a wraith depends very much on the stage of the game. If you are playing endless mode and get one early some night, it should be pretty easy to kill, at least compared to killing one halfway through the night, when there are lots of corpses for the wraiths to raise and loads of other monsters for you to take care of.
The skeletons aren't tough, they have very low dexterity, they are slower than you are, and they have the hitpoints of a beast. But there can be a horrifying number of them. And if someone else causes pain to you, they will start hitting you, and it will hurt. While berserking you can just swim through them.
The faster you can get to a Wraith after one is generated, the better. You will be warned in two ways about them. The game will say "The smell of death!" and a random amount of skeletons will spawn.
If the wraith has already summoned an army when you find it, it might be an excellent situation to use a bomb or two, especially in endless mode where you get two bombs at the end of each night.
Another thing to consider while having a wraith around: If you have to choose between killing a beast and killing a skeleton, take it into account that the beast will leave a corpse, while the skeleton will not, and the wraith can raise the corpse into another skeleton.
Berserking helps immensely, as you can focus on killing the wraith even while being surrounded by enemies, because you are immune to pain and also have all the nice bonuses from berserking.
Forest only monsters:
There are three monsters that only appear in forests. They replace some of the aforementioned monsters.
Scavengers
Scavengers replace bulldemons. They have high dexterity (the same as phasehounds), so they are good at hitting and evading. They have below avarage strength. They have pretty low hitpoints, but they can eat corpses from the ground, which will heal them.
Taking out scavengers shouldn't be a problem, but if there are lots of corpses around when you fight them, they can be a pain. You should, if possible, take them on at a corpseless spot.
Foresters
Foresters appear most of the time instead of wraiths, but it is still possible, though unlikely, that a wraith will spawn in a forest. Foresters are a bit like wraiths, but they plant living trees. The difference here is that they summon a smaller amount of monsters, but the monsters are much tougher.
They have about the same strength as bulldemons and average dexterity. They have quite a lot of hitpoints, a bit less than mandagores and around the same as devourers. They are also a bit slow, as slow as skeletons.
When you encounter a forester, take it out fast before there are too many treants. And while you are killing it, watch out for the treants, they hit quite hard.
Both foresters and treants are flammable, meaning that they take double damage from fire attacks. Bombs and cannon deal fire damage.
Treants
Treants are an extreme version of mandagores. They are slower, have more hitpoints, hit almost as hard and have lower dexterity.
Pretty much everything said about mandagores applies here. These guys are slower than mandagores, so if you follow the hit & retreat pattern, you will never get hit. It's just that these guys can handle even more damage than the mandagores, so if you have an army of these around, be ready to spend some time. Usually you shouldn't meet more than 5 per forester, but sometimes you really will see an army of living trees if the forester has had too much time planting.
Stats
Strength
Strength increases damage. And that's pretty much it. There are also strength requirements for several skills.
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Strength| Damage | Avg dmg
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10 | 1d6+5 | 8,5
11 | 1d6+6 | 9,5
12 | 1d6+7 | 10,5
13 | 2d6+4 | 11
14 | 2d6+5 | 12
15 | 2d6+6 | 13
16 | 2d6+7 | 14
17 | 3d6+4 | 14,5
18 | 3d6+5 | 15,5
19 | 3d6+6 | 16,5
20 | 3d6+7 | 17,5
Dexterity
Dexterity inreases your chance to hit monsters and decreases the monsters chance to hit you. It's the most useful out of the four stats, but also has double cost.
**Add details about hitting and dodging**
Endurance
Endurance increases your hitpoints and energy by 5 points each level. Endurance also increases weight, which is used to calculate how far/often you are knocked back. It isn't very useful, but endurance 12 is a requirement for the running skill.
**Add weight effect here**
Willpower
Willpower increases your energy by 5 points each level. It also affects how often you regenerate energy and pain. If you are berserking and your hitpoints are below your willpower, you will stay in berserk until you use fairydust. Willpower also affects how fast you accumulate berserk.
In order to explain the exact effects of willpower, I need to explain the way Berserk!'s speedsystem works first. Everything in Berserk! works in ticks. Each tick you get certain figure added to you speedcount and another figure added to your willcount. Once the figure reaches 1000, an action follows, and the figure in question gets reduced by another figure (moving and attacking cost 1000). In case of speed you get a turn and in case of willpower you regenerate one point of energy and/or pain.
What is this figure? In case of speed it's just your speed, which is 95+dexterity. In case of willpower it's willpower^2(=willpower*willpower).
The following table shows how many additional points of energy you get, how many ticks it takes to regenerate energy/pain, how many points of energy you regenerate per 10 ticks (you get a turn about every 10 ticks, sometimes 9) and how big of a percentual increase you get to regeneration.
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WP Energy Ticks Regens per Increase
10 ticks %
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10 0 10 1
11 5 8,26 1,21 21
12 10 6,94 1,44 19
13 15 5,92 1,69 17
14 20 5,1 1,96 16
15 25 4,44 2,25 15
16 30 3,91 2,56 14
17 35 3,46 2,89 13
18 40 3,09 3,24 12
19 45 2,77 3,61 11
20 50 2,5 4 11
21 55 2,27 4,41 10
22 60 2,07 4,84 10
23 65 1,89 5,29 9
24 70 1,74 5,76 9
25 75 1,6 6,25 9
26 80 1,48 6,76 8
27 85 1,37 7,29 8
28 90 1,28 7,84 8
29 95 1,19 8,41 7
30 100 1,11 9 7
Skills
Sweep
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Sweep is a wide range attack, attacking 3 squares at a time. Sweep also gives -2 to damage and -3 to hit, so don't be suprised if you don't hit anyone with a low dexterity.
Sweep is an excellent skill, because it can be used all the time.
Requirement: Strength 12.
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Sweep Speed Energy
level cost cost
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1 1400 20
2 1200 15
3 1000 10
Whirlwind
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With whirlwind you attack all of the 8 squares around you. It's pretty much unusable until you get it to level 3 because of its high speed and energy costs. Even then, it's a really situational skill. Most of the time you could just sweep and retreat and get better results. Whirlwind also has a high strength requirement. However, sometimes you can't avoid getting swarmed, and at those moments, attacking 8 monsters at a time can prove to be a lifesaver.
Requirements: Strength 16, Sweep attack level 2
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Whirlwind Speed Energy
level cost cost
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1 2000 80
2 1750 60
3 1500 40
Running
Every point in running decreases the energy and time costs of running. Running is a useful skills as it makes you both run faster and consume less energy while doing so.
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Running Speed Energy
level cost cost
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0 750 10
1 650 6
2 600 5
3 550 4
Impale Attack
With Impale you make a one square charge. It increases your damage by 50% and gives you +1 to hit.
Requirements: Strength 14, Running level 1
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Impale Speed Energy
level cost cost
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1 1400 40
2 1200 30
3 1000 20
Jumping Attack
With jumping attack you jump over a monster and impale it.
Requirements: Dexterity 12, Running level 1, Impale attack level 1
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Jump Speed Energy
level cost cost
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1 1400 40
2 1200 30
3 1000 20
Items
Crossbow
Crossbow shoots 3 bolts each time you fire with it, and has a clip of 12 bolts. Cannot be used while in melee. Crossbow gets great benefits from higher dexterity, as you stop missing. Crossbow should mainly be used for killing imps. For other purposes, it doesn't deal enough damage, so there usually isn't much point.
Knives
Knife's damage depends on your strength and can be used while in melee. You should think about knife as a backup weapon for crossbows, because you can use them in situations where you can't use crossbow, but you don't have that many of them available, and with lower strength you won't be killing imp's with a single knife that often. As their damage is calculated from your strength, their damage raises considerably while berserking.
**add knife damage here**
Cannon
Cannon's damage reduces on the way, so you deal the highest damage against the monsters next to you, and less damage to those farther away. Don't expect to kill every mandagore on sight with it, but they will be injured, and you will kill pretty much every beast and skeleton on the line of fire.
Cannon also knocks you back a few squares.
Bombs
Bombs explode on impact or on the spot you aim them at. They are an excellent weapon to get rid of an army of beasts or skeletons quickly, though it can be a bit hard to find a straight line to a good spot.
**Bomb damage here**
Fairydust
Fairydusts heal you to full health and remove all pain. They also stop berserking.
BERSERKING
**Effects of berserking here**
Notes and stuff to be added
There's still some stuff that needs to be added, you can find some notes there where I plan to add some stuff.
I'd like someone who plays characters with impale and jumping attack to tell me why they are good/worth taking, as I myself almost never take them.
The text for cannon and bombs is horrible. If someone can help me rephrase those sections, I would be glad.
As for stuff that isn't there yet but needs to be before I consider this done, here's a list:
- How hitting and dodging is calculated from dexterity
- How knockback is calculated from weight
- Knife damage
- Bomb damage (and possibly cannon damage)
- Effects for berserking
- Strategies while berserking
- Check if skeletal monsters have only a resistance instead of immunity to piercing weapons (crossbow/knives)
- How much does shooting with a cannon knock you back?
Also, if you see any grammar errors, feel free to tell me about them.
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Requests For Features / Re: Tactics!
« on: February 23, 2007, 04:23 »
I like this kind of tactics much more. You can only use them for a pretty short period of time so they can have much bigger effect on gameplay and would be saved for tight situations.
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Requests For Features / Re: Trait suggestion: Zen Slayer
« on: February 22, 2007, 14:04 »
A few suggestions for master traits. You could make some/all of them require that you take them as quickly as possible, so that you can't take any non-required traits before the master trait if you want to have them. In the case of gun-kata, you could reason this like "only those who truly dedicate themselves to the art of gun-kata can master it".
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Pre-0.9.9 / Re: [E|70%|9]Well atleast it ain't as bad as usual
« on: February 19, 2007, 12:13 »however, I kept the save file a few levels back so kehehe
Don't do it! Didn't your mommy tell you that if you save-scum, your pillows will become cacodemons while you sleep?
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Bug Reports / Re: Major rank requirements don't show up correctly
« on: February 17, 2007, 12:49 »I have the same freaking problem. I'm a corporal- here's my stats.
Code: [Select]---------------------------- DOOMRL Player Info ------------------------------
Skill rank : Corporal former human 245
Experience rank : Imp former sergeant 209
Games won : 1 Partial wins : 0 former captain 140
All kills : 1484 Standard wins : 1 imp 144
Melee kills : 33 Full wins : 0 demon 254
lost soul 179
To achieve Sergeant rank: cacodemon 119
-- reach level 15 baron of hell 27
-- reach l5 in the Angel of Berserk challenge Cyberdemon 1
-- reach l10 in the Angel of Marksmanship challenge hell knight 70
arachnotron 53
To achieve Demon rank: former commando 20
-- kill a total 200 of demons pain elemental 13
-- kill a total 100 of enemies in melee arch-vile 10
-- kill a total 20 of demons in melee
Difficulty level achievements Deaths Kills
I'm too young to die! : none none none
Hey, Not Too Rough : reached level 2 1 7
Hurt Me Plenty : won (1 win total) 10 1477
Ultra-Violence : none none none
Nightmare! : none none none
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry about the crappy format. I just beat the game on HMP, even beat the mortuary! I didn't level up to major. Reach level 15 is greyed out. Do you have to also do all the challenges? And are the challenges registering? Is that part of the problem?
Yes, you'll need to meet all mentioned requirements to advance to the mentioned next rank. In your case you still need to reach L5 in AoB and L10 in AoM to advance to the sergeant rank (You still have a long way until Major).
Also, put character screens and other screenshots between [code ] [/code ] tags.
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Requests For Features / Re: Reload while moving
« on: February 09, 2007, 10:35 »I really don't like the idea of tactics affecting reload times. One thing I like about tactics is that you can do whatever you please with whatever tactics you want and the only change that tactics makes is how often you hit and how often the bad guys (if there's any left) hit you. If tactics changed to also affect the time spent on actions it would make things a lot more frustrating (and I can do that to myself very well by simply not using a medkit when I should and get an otherwise excellent marine killed, thank you very much).
As far as I know, tactic already affects moving and shooting speed, though very little.
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Berserk! / Re: Post mortems
« on: February 07, 2007, 07:40 »
I finally got a score worth posting, though I still didn't even use all of my fairydusts and died stupidly.
-- Berserk! (0.8) Post Mortem ----------------------------------------
Character name : Fingerzam
Game type : Endless
Nights survived : 10
Monsters killed : 1352
STR: 17 DEX: 15 END: 10 WIL: 10
Speed: 110 HP: -2/120 EN: 53/100
Base damage: 3d6+4 Weight: 10
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-- Weapons left ------------------------------------------------------
Cannon (0/1) Crossbow (3/60) Knives (9) Bombs (1) FairyDust (2)
-- Kills (1352) ------------------------------------------------------
87 bulldemons
562 beasts
98 mandagores
10 defilers
120 imps
59 phasehounds
363 skeletons
19 wraiths
11 spores
23 scavengers
-- Skills (10) -------------------------------------------------------
Ironman (level 4)
Sweep attack (level 3)
Whirlwind attack (level 3)
-- Messages ----------------------------------------------------------
The mandagore misses you.
The defiler dies!
The beast dies!
You hear a howl!
The mandagore
consumes the bulldemon!
The bulldemon dies!
The mandagore hits you!
You die!...
Press <Enter>
-- Achievements ------------------------------------------------------
Max kills in one turn : 22
Longest killing sequence : 28 kills in 11 turns.
Survived for : 3652 turns
Died on : Fields
Reason of death : killed by a mandagore