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Discussion / Re: How Dead is this Game?
« on: July 09, 2021, 22:23 »
DRL has had a long life, and it gave birth to Jupiter Hell. If DRL never being actually finished is the price to pay for that, well...that's a price I can accept. I plan to keep playing this on and off for the foreseeable future, and while I'll never me good enough to get a lot of diamond or angelic badges, I'll be content to reach Brigadier General rank.

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Post Mortem / [E|YAAM] Decided to get Sunrise Iron Fist
« on: July 09, 2021, 21:39 »
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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Hovy, level 9 Human Private FC Scout,
 defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis.
 He survived 54464 turns and scored 38861 points.
 He played for 1 hour, 15 minutes and 20 seconds.
 He was too young to die!

 He killed 232 out of 232 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 7
  Levels visited   : 0
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Cyberdemon's Head
  Medal of Prejudice
  Malicious Knives Cross
  Sunrise Iron Fist
  Gatekeeper Bronze Badge
  Gatekeeper Silver Badge
  UAC Bronze Badge
  Veteran Bronze Badge
  Strongman Bronze Badge
  Strongman Silver Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 53/60   Experience 34205/9
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +6  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +9

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Ironman          (Level 1)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Brute            (Level 3)
    Berserker        (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Blademaster      (Level 1)

  Bru->Bru->Ber->HR->Bru->HR->MBm->DM->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   red armor [6/6] (72%) (P)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   nothing
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] tactical armor [0/0] (100%)
    [b] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [c] nanofiber blue armor [1]
    [d] blue armor [2/2] (200%) (B)
    [e] blue armor [2/2] (100%)
    [f] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [g] fireproof red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [h] onyx armor [2] (T)
    [i] small med-pack
    [j] small med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] large med-pack
    [q] large med-pack
    [r] large med-pack
    [s] large med-pack
    [t] homing phase device
    [u] homing phase device
    [v] plasteel boots [2/2] (93%)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Melee      - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Shrapnel   - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Acid       - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Fire       - internal 60%   torso 85%   feet 60% 
    Plasma     - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    39 former humans
    24 former sergeants
    12 former captains
    49 imps
    17 demons
    35 lost souls
    17 cacodemons
    4 hell knights
    5 barons of hell
    1 arachnotron
    1 former commando
    4 pain elementals
    13 revenants
    7 arch-viles
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he assembled a fireproof armor!
  On level 12 he assembled a nanofiber armor!
  On level 14 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 17 he ran for his life from acid!
  On level 23 he assembled a tactical armor!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  On level 24 he finally defeated the Mastermind.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You are hit! Boom! You are hit! Boom! You are hit! You are hit! You need to
 taste blood!
 You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You need to
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (severely wounded) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You need to
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (severely wounded) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You need to
 taste blood!
 You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You're going
 berserk! You need to taste blood!
 You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You need to
 taste blood!
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | floor | [ m ]ore
 You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind dies. Congratulations!
 You defeated the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>...
 You feel relatively safe now. Next!

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 2 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 1 of those was killed.

 1 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 1 killed the bitch and survived.

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I started a fresh profile for DRL and decided I wanted to get the fists-only badge to start with. This was my second attempt, buoyed by generous health pickups, armor drops, and invuln spheres appearing before the first two boss levels. Next time I'll actually use weapons - as fun as it is to imagine your character beating everything to death with their bare hands, weapon usage is a lot more interesting.

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Yeah, I was looking at preorders. Still don't have the spare cash to place a preorder right now, sadly.

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Title. I didn't have the spare cash to contribute to the Kickstarter, but I would like to grab the Deluxe edition and show my support at some point. I just don't know if that point will come before or after release.

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Post Mortem / [E|90%|YAVP] Self-imposed challenges FTW
« on: September 07, 2016, 13:42 »
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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Gebiznik, level 8 Hell Knight 2nd Lieutenant Scout,
 defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis.
 He survived 70028 turns and scored 35813 points.
 He played for 56 minutes and 38 seconds.
 He was too young to die!

 He killed 275 out of 305 hellspawn. (90%)
 He held his right to remain violent.

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 7
  Levels visited   : 2
  Levels completed : 2

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Mastermind's Brain
  UAC Star (silver cluster)
  Untouchable Badge
  Hell Champion Medal

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 50/50   Experience 29354/8
  ToHit Ranged +2  ToHit Melee +2  ToDmg Ranged +2  ToDmg Melee +2

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Hellrunner       (Level 1)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 2)
    Eagle Eye        (Level 1)
    Intuition        (Level 2)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 1)
    Cateye           (Level 1)

  Int->Int->EE->SoB->SoB->TH->MCe->HR->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   plasma rifle (1d8)x6 [28/40] (P1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   steel boots [1/1] (100%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   combat shotgun (7d3) [5/5]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] rocket launcher (6d6) [1/1]
    [b] gatling gun (1d7)x6 [0/60]
    [c] red armor [4/4] (58%)
    [d] shotgun shell (x48)
    [e] rocket (x7)
    [f] power cell (x50)
    [g] power cell (x50)
    [h] power cell (x50)
    [i] power cell (x35)
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] phase device
    [q] phase device
    [r] phase device
    [s] homing phase device
    [t] homing phase device

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 0%    torso 15%   feet 0%   
    Shrapnel   - internal 0%    torso 15%   feet 0%   

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    53 former humans
    55 former sergeants
    17 former captains
    21 imps
    31 demons
    55 lost souls
    11 cacodemons
    6 hell knights
    4 barons of hell
    6 former commandos
    5 pain elementals
    1 revenant
    3 mancubi
    3 arch-viles
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 7 he marched into the Military Base.
  He purified his fellow comrades.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he assembled a gatling gun!
  Level 14 was a hard nut to crack!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  On level 24 he finally defeated the Mastermind.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom!
 Boom! You are hit!
 Your weapon is empty.
 You reload the plasma rifle. Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom!
 Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom!
 Chain fire ( initial ) -- Choose target or abort...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (mortally wounded) | floor | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider
 Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the
 Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched!
 Chain fire ( warming ) -- Choose target or abort...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider
 Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind
 dies. Congratulations! You defeated the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>...
 You feel relatively safe now.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 89 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 70 of those were killed.
 2 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 2 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 15 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 12 killed the bitch and survived.
 3 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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Despite my graduation to HMP, I decided to do some ITYTD runs to grab the UAC Star (silver cluster), which I had in a previous version of the game for some reason and thus really wanted again. Cateye proved even more useful than I thought along with Intuition 2, and to my surprise I also got the Untouchable Badge, probably because of my predilection for grabbing the generous amounts of invulns and eventually just running for the stairs when I got my 50 killstreak. Didn't even need any of those tactical armor whatsits after all.

I'm curious how it's possible to get the gold cluster. I assume it involves something suitably redonkulus like finding out how to use the Dragonslayer+Berserk and then whirlwinding/kiting everything in your way, but maybe I'm wrong.

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Modding / Re: WolfRL
« on: August 22, 2016, 14:02 »
I've been jonesing for this recently. Hope it's coming along well.

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Discussion / Re: Call for Uniques/Exotics
« on: August 22, 2016, 13:20 »
I've always wanted to see the M6D from Halo: Combat Evolved as a unique. It could work as a buffed version of the combat pistol, maybe with some sort of scoped altfire. Don't know if it fits Doom exactly; I'm just throwing it out there.

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While I honestly thought it would look like DoomRL, this seems like an alright alternative. I'm sure the gameplay will be top notch, like in DoomRL. :p

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The more you know. :P I found the onyx mod quite late, and figured I should use it.

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Post Mortem / [M|AoMr|YAVP] I will probably move up to HMP
« on: April 30, 2016, 13:43 »
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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Sol, level 10 Mancubus Warrant Officer Technician,
 defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis.
 He survived 108568 turns and scored 92046 points.
 He played for 2 hours, 35 minutes and 5 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 484 out of 484 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
 He was an Angel of Marksmanship!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 3
  Levels completed : 3

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Mastermind's Brain
  Medal of Prejudice
  UAC Star (bronze cluster)
  Heroic Bronze Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 50/50   Experience 45814/10
  ToHit Ranged +6  ToHit Melee +6  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Technician

    Hellrunner       (Level 1)
    Son of a gun     (Level 3)
    Reloader         (Level 1)
    Eagle Eye        (Level 3)
    Whizkid          (Level 1)
    Sharpshooter     (Level 1)

  SoG->SoG->SoG->WK->EE->EE->EE->MSs->HR->Rel->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Lava Armor [4/4] (93%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   combat pistol (3d4) [15/20] (B1P1T1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   Anti-Freak Jackal (5d3) [6/6]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] tactical armor [0/0] (100%)
    [b] red armor [4] (BO)
    [c] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [d] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x57)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [g] small med-pack
    [h] small med-pack
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] phase device
    [q] phase device
    [r] shockwave pack
    [s] blood skull
    [t] 10mm ammo chain (x250)
    [u] 10mm ammo chain (x250)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 75%   feet 0%   
    Plasma     - internal 0%    torso 50%   feet 0%   

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    114 former humans
    71 former sergeants
    21 former captains
    48 imps
    31 demons
    117 lost souls
    11 cacodemons
    11 hell knights
    7 barons of hell
    5 arachnotrons
    4 former commandos
    7 pain elementals
    16 revenants
    3 mancubi
    7 arch-viles
    5 elite former humans
    2 elite former sergeants
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he assembled a energy pistol!
  On level 7 he marched into the Military Base.
  On level 7 he assembled a storm bolter pistol!
  On level 7 he assembled a tactical boots!
  He purified his fellow comrades.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he entered Deimos Lab.
  He fought hard, but decided the reward was not worth it.
  On level 10 he found the Anti-Freak Jackal!
  On level 12 he found the Lava Armor!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 19 he assembled a tactical armor!
  On level 19 he found the Butcher's Cleaver!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  On level 24 he finally defeated the Mastermind.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (mortally wounded) | blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | floor | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. You are hit! You are hit! You are
 hit! Boom! You are hit! Boom!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | floor | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind dies.
 Congratulations! You defeated the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>...
 You feel relatively safe now.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 79 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 65 of those were killed.
 2 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 2 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 10 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 7 killed the bitch and survived.
 3 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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After picking the game up again and managing a full HNTR Fireangel victory without really trying, I decided to try pistols. I died a number of times at first, but eventually I grabbed a Gun Kata victory and then decided to try Sharpshooter at the advice of one of my friends.

Needless to say, it went really well. Well enough, in fact, that I'm considering moving up to HMP. I know this is partly due to luck, given the 3 uniques I found, but I'm still confident enough with my tactics to give it a shot.

Highlights of this run include: fucking up my energy combat pistol assembly then realizing it didn't matter, assembling an energy pistol before that and then realizing later I didn't actually need it, throwing it away with my storm bolter after finding an Anti-Freak Jackal, finding an invincibility globe and homing phase on Hell 7, and pretty much 420 headshotting everything in my way.

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Johnny LaRue, level 11 Cacodemon Sergeant Major Technician,
 nuked the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
 He survived 127203 turns and scored 115872 points.
 He played for 2 hours, 41 minutes and 38 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 539 out of 539 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 5
  Levels completed : 5

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  Hell Armorer Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 55/50   Experience 53360/11
  ToHit Ranged +2  ToHit Melee +2  ToDmg Ranged +2  ToDmg Melee +2

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Technician

    Tough as nails   (Level 2)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 2)
    Eagle Eye        (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Badass           (Level 1)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 2)
    Entrenchment     (Level 1)

  SoB->SoB->TH->TaN->TaN->Bad->MEn->WK->WK->EE->TH->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   powered red armor [5/5] (51%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   hyperblaster (2d4)x3 [31/40]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   plasteel boots [2/2] (68%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   BFG 9000 (10d6) [10/130] (B1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] gatling gun (1d7)x6 [60/60]
    [b] blue armor [4/4] (100%) (APT)
    [c] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [d] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [e] 10mm ammo (x11)
    [f] power cell (x50)
    [g] power cell (x21)
    [h] power cell (x50)
    [i] small med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] large med-pack
    [n] large med-pack
    [o] large med-pack
    [p] large med-pack
    [q] large med-pack
    [r] lava element

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 0%    torso 30%   feet 30% 
    Melee      - internal 0%    torso 55%   feet 30% 
    Shrapnel   - internal 0%    torso 30%   feet 30% 
    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 30%   feet 80% 
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 80%   feet 55% 
    Plasma     - internal 0%    torso 30%   feet 30% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    96 former humans
    56 former sergeants
    14 former captains
    46 imps
    61 demons
    144 lost souls
    29 cacodemons
    13 hell knights
    22 barons of hell
    15 arachnotrons
    5 former commandos
    7 pain elementals
    3 revenants
    13 mancubi
    7 arch-viles
    2 bruiser brothers
    2 shamblers
    1 lava elemental
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 John Carmack

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 5 he assembled a grappling boots!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 6 he assembled a gatling gun!
  On level 7 he sneaked into the Phobos Lab.
  He broke through the lab.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he entered Deimos Lab.
  On level 9 he assembled a power armor!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 14 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  On level 14 he assembled a hyperblaster!
  He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 18 he found the Medical Powerarmor!
  On level 22 he arrived at Mt. Erebus.
  He managed to raise Mt. Erebus completely!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  He nuked level 24!
  He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
  Then finally in Hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You see : a baron of hell (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits the baron of hell. The baron of hell dies. You hear the
 scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the
 scream of a freed soul!
 You don't have enough ammo to fire the BFG 9000!
 You swap your weapons.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | floor | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile
 hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. John Carmack reloads his
 rocket launcher. You are hit! You are hit! You are hit!
 Chain fire ( initial ) -- Choose target or abort...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | floor | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack. John Carmack dies. Congratulations! You
 defeated John Carmack! Press <Enter>...
 You feel relatively safe now.

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 69 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 59 of those were killed.
 2 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 2 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 6 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 4 killed the bitch and survived.
 2 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

--------------------------------------------------------------

I picked up this game again and realized that rolling endless Marine Survivalists wasn't getting me anywhere. So, I decided to try my friends' favorite build that isn't Fireangel, which is Entrenchment. As it turns out, I forgot I even had a lava element...because I didn't need it...because invincibility globes. That's generally how this run went.

Not pictured: my Fireangel win, my AoMC Entrenchment win, my AoMC Entrenchment YASD where I found a minigun and plasma rifle on Deimos Lab and then let myself get killed by an arachnotron.

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If I may ask specifically, gamergate is a hate group against WHAT exactly?

Women? It's not hard to see that.

The only reason Simon from yogscast wrote that article (the one you linked to)

Simon from Yogscast? You sure that was who wrote it? I also like how the article talks about TB using his large audience to dismiss criticism, and then he does exactly that very early in the image you posted, followed up by more of the egoism the article also talks about.

And goddammit, 8chan TRIES TO TAKES DOWN ANY ILLEGAL ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS THERE

I don't know where you got this either. Those raiding/doxing/liferuining threads seem pretty sketchy, to say the least. That 8chan child porn link was titled 'The Mods Are Always Asleep' for a reason. No, I will not directly link to 8chan discussion of sexualized young children.

EDIT:
To blame 8chan and ALL the people there for any illegal stuff is like saying that all Germans even until today are nazis

8channers continue to put up with it, and they weren't duped or scared into submission by a fascist regime to do it.


@Sylph: I respect that you're trying to talk to me in good faith here, so I'll try and return the favor.

I can also respect your desire to strengthen my argument. But here's the thing: I still consider wanting direct links to tweets and such to be shifting the goalposts, since I tried to link articles that provided context. I'd prefer not to spend hours trawling TB's twitter for problematic stuff, either, not when people have already done it for me.

You're talking about my arguments against GG being weak, when I consider evidence against them to be very strong and even somewhat self-evident - I don't think we should talk about it in a vacuum because this isn't a courtroom.

On that note, I remember you said that TB was a good voice from the 'pro GG side'. There isn't any sort of equity between 'pro' and 'anti' GG. There isn't any reason to be pro GG when they're explicitly out to get you in particular because they are literally just an extension of gamer misogyny. I hope they don't ever get you. So I don't think there's any question about them.

If TotalBiscuit supports GamerGate, that should be worth pause, right? And if he supports GG, it wouldn't be a stretch for him to be sexist without being very extreme, would it?

I didn't even intend to go on about this in the first place, and now I regret getting as sidetracked as much as I did by people who apparently didn't like that. Referencing TB is an issue, whether the devs realize it or not, and it's something they need to think about. I started this thread with the purpose of bringing it to their attention. I was unfortunately drawn into the discussion about the semantics of the validity of these things, which is the devs' decision to decide.

Both sides are just talking to hear themselves talk - they have nothing of any import or worth to say to anyone but themselves.

If nobody's going to listen to what I have to say, then I'll stop talking. I've made my point. I'll continue to enjoy DoomRL regardless of the outcome the devs decide on - it's too good not to - but it is still a concern that I really think they should consider. I hope you all have a good rest of the day.

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Honestly, I think I can sum it up like this:

https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/554849320562749440

Quote from: that tweet
If you continue to be neutral of or in support of gamergate KNOW you're silently approving of attempted murder by cop

It's pretty obvious TotalBiscuit supports GamerGate. Do you see now?

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Just gonna leave this here
The entire narrative against gamergate is basically one huge smear campaign, that's what I've noticed so far.

That blog is a hilariously, stupidly small fraction of the abuse that GG targets go through. Hell, a good portion of it's just reasonable people reacting to GG abusing its victims. If you consider disgust and disdain for what is basically a hate group a 'smear campaign', I don't know what to say to you.

Trar, instead of posting links to articles that link to evidence, can you just post links to the evidence directly?

A screen-cap of TB being a misogynist would work far better than a URL to an article that describes TB as a misogynist and contains links to forum threads that contain links to more articles etc etc...

Your mistake here isn't the side of the battle you're on, it's trying to sway people's opinions by linking them to people trying to sway their opinions, instead of posting the evidence directly.

It's reasonable enough you want clear evidence. But I thought the articles I've linked already contained some tweets, or links to tweets. It's not like his Twitter output is the only thing being brought up or the only thing that matters either; you can check this article out for other criticism of TB which pretty much sums up why I want him out of DoomRL. It's not like this stuff is hard to look up individually either.

I hope for your sake you're not simply demanding finer and finer proof to try and discredit or wear me out somehow.

do glorious generalizations (I mean god damn, all you need is to throw "nazis" in there and it'll be a complete Best of the Baddest collection) make for good facts?

You might have missed it, but I did link a detailed and admittedly stomach-churning article on page 1 about how 8chan, one of GG's 'home bases', also unrepentantly hosts child pornography on open discussion boards. I guess I can see why you might not have read it.

There's also some pretty conclusive proof that the /baphomet/ board (which is also on 8chan if you didn't know) is engaged in threatening and SWATting people- not to mention the admin fleeing to China after he was caught selling stolen Social Security numbers. You can start reading about it here and here.

By no means are these the only two articles about this. I'll also say that second link contains tweets. As in posts from Twitter. On a website dedicated to stringing together tweets to help form articles about those tweets.

Fortunately for you, I'm not outright dismissing you because you mentioned Nazism. I'm dismissing you because you're wrong.

Honestly, why is this even an issue in the first place?Is it because you're actually one of the poor sods that are the 'foot soldiers' of the other front?
Why must we remove the name of The Big Bad that doesn't like your views?

Being against abusive behavior and abusive people makes me a 'foot soldier'? You're assuming a hate group and its victims are somehow equivalent 'sides', which is obviously not true to anyone who isn't sympathetic to that hate group or below 6 years old. You might want to watch out if you don't want people thinking you're either of those.

Why must we care about your fight - and join it - when we are just some neutral corner of the internet?

Maybe you should start reading?

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No blog or news article is 100% objective, so the better questions to ask would be how a piece is biased and how much it's biased. That's not to say blog posts can't contain objective information.

Which brings me to my main point here. I think the articles I linked DO contain at least some evidence that GamerGate is nothing more than desperate, deluded womanhaters willing to defend cybercriminals & child pornography in order to attack women, and that TotalBiscuit is cozying up to them & becoming a pretty nasty person in the process.

Even if the writers of the pieces are biased - and really, who wouldn't be biased against a group of desperate womanhaters unless they were either very ignorant of them or at least slightly sympathetic to them - their sources should be pretty clear. If you think the raw information displayed in those sources is not a big deal, I don't know what to say to you.

The fact that traditional games media (which would likely also be dismissed with claims of bias and low standards by GGers) does not cover this as much is both testament to how complex this issue is for sites like Kotaku and Rock Paper Shotgun, and testament to the need for people to talk about this.

The fact that you've apparently chosen to ignore all of that speaks more to your preconceptions than it does to any of my sources. And I can guess that you probably won't read too heavily into this post. I really, truly do not want to come across as hostile either with that last sentence, but this topic does happen to require a bit of study. I've presented facts. I'm not interested in debating people who deny them or their existence.

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