Chaosforge Forum

DoomRL => Requests For Features => Topic started by: Asmageddon on June 26, 2013, 13:57

Title: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: Asmageddon on June 26, 2013, 13:57
Would be it, I guess.
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: LuckyDee on June 26, 2013, 14:35
As in "include a second set of Doomguy sprites that look like Doomgirl instead"?
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: thelaptop on June 26, 2013, 17:16
Frequently requested, frequently denied.

Maybe next time.
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: Sereg on June 26, 2013, 19:23
Presumably the combat arms branch of the space marine corps involved in the Mars moon bases is a male-only institution.

As such, even for a female player, a female doomguy wouldn't necessarily make sense - nor would it have any impact on gameplay, especially in console mode.
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: Fanta Hege on June 26, 2013, 19:50
This can be done in a mod considering there's already an old school version done.
hell i could probably quickly wrap up the sprite if someone wants to mod it.
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: Tormuse on June 26, 2013, 20:53
Making a Doomgirl sprite would be easy enough.  Changing all the text in the game from "he" to "she" would be harder.  If you look in any mortem, there are about a bazillion instances of "he" in the game that would have to be changed.

I think the last time this request came up, the answer came back that  a) it's more trouble than it's worth, considering only a tiny minority of players want it and  b) the game sees you playing in the role of Doomguy, a character who happens to be male and asking to make him female would be like asking, say, Nintendo to make a female Mario or asking Valve to make a female Gordon Freeman.

I don't know about the space marine corps being male-only; I would hope there wouldn't be that kind of sexism in the future.  :)
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: thelaptop on June 26, 2013, 21:05
I don't know about the space marine corps being male-only; I would hope there wouldn't be that kind of sexism in the future.  :)
There won't be any sexes in the future.

Everyone's cloned from petri-dishes, remember?
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: Fusilliban on June 26, 2013, 21:10
I'd be in favor of this.  And if labor is lacking, I'd be happy to personally take responsibility updating the codebase for pronouns and such.

Someone else can make the sprite, though.  Writing code I've been doing for over twenty years.  Anything remotely related to art, get someone else. :)
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: thelaptop on June 26, 2013, 23:24
Well, you'll get your chance when the source is released at version 1.0.0, hence the saying of "maybe next time".

But really, DoomGuy is DoomGuy.  Gender equality aside, the amount of effort required (i.e. all those itty-bitty pieces of code to check for may/femay to output the correct pronouns) is a bit too high at this point.  Playing as male or female shouldn't affect one's ability to destroy all those pesky hellspawn.

And why is it too high an effort?  Because the main code base is still in a flux, and I mean this from gameplay and cosmetic perspectives -- adding all these little checks is very error prone and under the circumstances, should probably be minimised while we "finalise" the gameplay for the Great One Point Zero release.

Trust me.  Once we get 1.0.0 out of the door, we can add all the niceties like proper plurals, translation, gender-confusedness and what-not.  But for now, please bear with our [unintentional] chauvinism in stating that DoomGuy is a male.
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: Asmageddon on June 27, 2013, 05:31
Whoa, I'm surprised by how much replies this got.

Well, anyway, I understand your point perfectly, and it's not that big of a request anyway.
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: Delta Falcon on August 26, 2013, 11:59
I was actually going to make a topic regarding this as well.  I'd think modifying the text wouldn't be that hard, since maybe the pronoun could be made a variable based on the gender chosen.  But if it's not possible for now, then I won't push it.
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: Kashi on August 29, 2013, 20:57
Everyone's cloned from petri-dishes, remember?
What are they, Space Marines?

Anyways, while it would give more... hm... how to put this... Eh, let's go with "aesthetical" variance, it serves no purpose, unless some changes are made in the game to add variety in the mechanics. Which would be like the class system already implemented.
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: ParaSait on August 30, 2013, 21:51
There won't be any sexes in the future.

Everyone's cloned from petri-dishes, remember?
And they're still using pump action shotguns. :/
Title: Re: A tiny request - option to play a female character.
Post by: thelaptop on August 30, 2013, 23:24
And they're still using pump action shotguns. :/
Yeah, it's mechanically simpler to build when you're out on Mars.

That and the whole intimidation factor.  Same reason why para-military police carry and use pump shotguns.