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Title: [N!|36%|YAVP] Failed Elite Diamond = Yet Another Boring Melee Stairdive
Post by: Sereg on September 18, 2017, 21:56
Tried to do the N! 90% thing, but got to hell 7 and it was too scary to camp to boost kill rate, so I just went and killed the spider.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Edit: Fun fact. My win count in each difficulty level is inversely proportional to that level.

ITYTD: 2 Wins
HNTR: 4 Wins
HMP: 5 Wins
UV: 7 Wins
N!: 12 Wins

I suspect this is because I only care about badges, and it's difficult to get them by winning lower difficulties anymore, but still... didn't know it had gotten to that point until I looked out of idle curiosity.
Title: Re: [N!|36%|YAVP] Failed Elite Diamond = Yet Another Boring Melee Stairdive
Post by: LuckyDee on September 18, 2017, 22:28
Quote from: Sereg on September 18, 2017, 21:56
He killed 316 out of 856 hellspawn. (36%)

It's not like you really tried, is it?
Title: Re: [N!|36%|YAVP] Failed Elite Diamond = Yet Another Boring Melee Stairdive
Post by: Sereg on September 18, 2017, 22:32
Well, no, when I inflate killrate like this, it's best to do it near the end so I can guarantee the final percentage is what I need it to be, so I don't usually bother until I get near the end of the run. For example, if I do it on, say, Hell 4, I have to inflate the kill rate much higher to ensure it doesn't drop below 90% if I have to exfil from the next few floors with a quickness. It's also true that if I do it way too early, and then die, I just spent hours grinding for nothing - this way, I have a relatively high probability of finishing the run and making the grind pay off.

Sometimes it's still worth it to do it that way if you can find a good place to stop and you're not too far from the end, but I didn't find such a place this run.

Edit: It's worth noting that this method doesn't really work for Eagerness Angelic attempts - hard to farm some poor former when a thermonuclear bomb is ticking rapidly down in the background.
Title: Re: [N!|36%|YAVP] Failed Elite Diamond = Yet Another Boring Melee Stairdive
Post by: Tormuse on September 18, 2017, 23:04
Any reason you didn't put those agility mods on the steel boots?  I think the extra speed from tac boots would've helped you a lot more than the snail effect from the Enviroboots.
Title: Re: [N!|36%|YAVP] Failed Elite Diamond = Yet Another Boring Melee Stairdive
Post by: Sereg on September 19, 2017, 05:25
Honestly? This didn't even occur to me.

To be completely fair, I encountered a *lot* of hazardous terrain near the end of my run, so I was very thankful for the boots... but even having tac boots for a swap would have been an improvement.

Oh well =X next time...