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Title: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: stargazer-3 on July 02, 2012, 08:30
As much as I feared seeing as an ad, I'll post it anyway, it's an off-topic section after all!
Thomas Biskup, creator (or the Creator) of good old ADOM, have just started an Indiegogo campaign called Ressurect ADOM development.
He promises to fix all the bugs in his game, as well as add a modern touch to it (some interface tweaks, possibly musical score and a graphical menu)
He even promised open-sourcing ADOM as a stretch goal:
http://www.indiegogo.com/resurrect-adom-development (http://www.indiegogo.com/resurrect-adom-development)

Dedicated to all ADOM lovers out on ChaosForge who don't follow Biskup's blog!
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: thelaptop on July 02, 2012, 09:23
Heh.  We should have something like that for DoomRL.  At least DoomRL is still seeing active development.
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: Kornel Kisielewicz on July 02, 2012, 10:27
What bothers me here is the fact that:

1) Thomas has a well paid full-time job, and he's asking for money to work on something in his past-time
2) Thomas already works on JADE in his past time
3) the amount requested could probably fund full-time a single developer for a year (at least by my own standards)
4) I'm a struggling roguelike developer without a job who works on roguelikes for free, and barely gets any donations ($2 last month)

... so... why not throw money at the Forge instead? :'-(
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: stargazer-3 on July 02, 2012, 12:27
Well, some people waited 10 years for that game to be finished. Biskup was explaining the the reasons behind this project in great detail, but the way I see it, it's not about showing appreciation to a developer but getting a really good game finally done. I wouldn't pay for JADE development.
But you deserve better than this. A game of DoomRL level could get into one of the Humble Indie Bundles easily (and the last one raised $5 mil!).
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: Kornel Kisielewicz on July 02, 2012, 12:35
Unfortunately the fact that it's based on a foreign IP doesn't allow me to sell it. However, I could probably raise money via Kickstarter or IndieGoGo, because I noticed they also accept Fan Films... However, I'd need a sensible goal to aim for (bugfixing + minor interface is obviously a ridiculous goal, for we do it all the time).
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: Motorheadbanger on July 02, 2012, 13:57
Yeah, all this stuff seems strange at least.
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: skarczew on July 02, 2012, 14:34
2) Thomas already works on JADE in his past time
There is no JADE anymore. JADE has become ADOM 2 (rebranding, rofl), which is in the early alpha stage.

3) the amount requested could probably fund full-time a single developer for a year (at least by my own standards)
Kornel, by our standards he could fund full-time dev for 2-4 years (depends on experience and living area). And we shall not cry, as he mentioned 60k earlier, instead of 48k :P .
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: Kornel Kisielewicz on July 02, 2012, 15:00
Kornel, by our standards he could fund full-time dev for 2-4 years (depends on experience and living area). And we shall not cry, as he mentioned 60k earlier, instead of 48k :P .
Well true that, but I included taxes and production and shipment of physical rewards (which don't seem the case here). And I was trying to be relatively nice :/. Also, some people donate because he mentioned open sourcing as a stretch goal. Which is sad, because from what he wrote earlier that stretch goal would be above the $500k range.
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: ParaSait on July 02, 2012, 21:19
This sure is awesome, but why on earth does he need 48k bucks to revive a roguelike? Lmao.
KK's right, throw your money at someone who needs it more, you greynames! How else is he gonna pay for all the delicious beer?!
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: Sanctus on July 03, 2012, 02:48
Throw your money and get ADOMRL release this fall.
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: Klear on July 05, 2012, 06:21
KK's right, throw your money at someone who needs it more, you greynames! How else is he gonna pay for all the delicious beer?!

If only there was a way to buy the beer in person. All of my money keeps inexplicably turning into empty beer glasses and cigarette smoke. I should be able to get some more money than is usual for me soon and hopefully it will survive the trip and beerify in Kornel's hands, not mine =)
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: Silhar on July 05, 2012, 06:45
If only there was a way to buy the beer in person. All of my money keeps inexplicably turning into empty beer glasses and cigarette smoke.

I believe it's because you got into your character way too deeply.
Title: Re: ADOM revival on Indiegogo!
Post by: Klear on July 05, 2012, 11:07
I believe it's because you got into your character way too deeply.

Nah, my character is way too much me.