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DoomRL => Discussion => Topic started by: Errant on January 03, 2009, 09:24
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Question: how does Dualgunner work, exactly? Is the offhand weapon using it's own stats, or is it borrowing stuff like reload/firing speed from your primary?
I want to know how to use my mods to their best efficiency, y'see.
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I THINK, and don't quote me on this, that reload time is both pistols' times added together, making 200%, then reducing it to a 120%. Mods influence it less than with a single pistol. Firing time is based on the slowest pistol, so ANY mods on your faster gun won't make a bit of difference unless you mod the slower gun first.
This is all speculation, however.
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function TBeing.getFireCost: LongInt;
var iModifier : Real;
begin
if (Eq[ efWeapon ] = nil) or (Eq[ efWeapon ].isMelee) then Exit(ActionCostAttack);
if canDualGun then
iModifier := 1.2 * ( Eq[ efWeapon ].Props.UseTime + Eq[ efWeapon2 ].Props.UseTime) / 2
else
iModifier := Eq[ efWeapon ].Props.UseTime;
iModifier *= FireTime/1000.;
if (PistolBonus > 0) and (IF_PISTOL in Eq[ efWeapon ].flags) then iModifier *= (5.-PistolBonus)/5;
getFireCost := Round(ActionCostFire*iModifier);
end;
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Could anyone explain that in English please?
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What it means is that the firing time of a dualgunner is equal to 1.2 times the average of his weapons' firing times, or .6 of their combined time.
Thus, a CL3 DG char with unmodded pistols has, (I think) a firing time of .72. The third level of SoG would bring it to .48. I've seen that number before, so I'm pretty certain I'm doing the math right.
If I have the order these things are counted correct, the same character with S1 in each starts at .648, and comes down to .432.
I could be wrong about where exactly the mods fit into this equation, but I think the way it works is you figure the time of each weapon independently, starting with mods, working your way through SoG and Fin for each one, then you plug the two numbers you get into the DG formula.
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... Oh, that's fucking awesome.
Does all this revealing of code mean it's going to change or that DoomRL is going to be OS soon?
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It'll be with 1.0. But I'll first reveal the Lua API.
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Is the next release .9.9 or 1.0?
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Errr, probably 0.9.8.11 :P
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No!
Make it be 9.9.10.1 instead!
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Look at that - seems that the people want to wait more for the next version ;) You know what to do Kornel :P
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He should probably just start labeling them by year instead of version number. :V
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Yet actually considering the toppling of balance in the next version it could pass as 0.9.9...Or wait, let's do a 0.9.8.A version now! :D
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Why don't you just release version 1.0? XD
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1.0 will be the finished product.
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Haha! Hex numbering! I like that.
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Well, I broke that already, because the current version should be A :/
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Easily retconned by naming the next version 0.9.8.B, and saying in the archives (and probably with a quick hack) that this version was only ever known as 0.9.8.A
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We have always been at war with Eastasia.
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comrade ogilvie!
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.....aaaaaand does the same idea apply to reload times?
Man, now i have to do math to figure out if the second shot is worth the loss of speed. Make mods spawn in pairs and give us two advanced pistols >:(
..damn that would be broken, but awesome.
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Reload times, I'm not sure.
However, dualgunner is VERY worth it. When you get down to dualgunning in around .35 turns, so you're shooting off 4-6 bullets every time an enemy moves... You know it's worth it. Of course, that's with a speed modded advanced pistol, a Blaster, and maxed out Finesse.