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Title: Assembly Mod Slots
Post by: GrimmC on May 09, 2011, 21:06

Do assemblies still count has having x amount of mod slots taken up, or can you proceed to throw more on there?

I'm wondering because my Tactical Armor won't let me throw a power mod on it, and I'm not sure if it's specifically blocked out from further mods or if its mod slots are all considered used up.

Hoping for an answer before this game is up. :-)

Title: Re: Assembly Mod Slots
Post by: Thexare on May 09, 2011, 21:08

Assemblies cannot be further modified, even if there are slots left.

Title: Re: Assembly Mod Slots
Post by: Battleguy on May 09, 2011, 21:12

Except sometimes when the moon is in the right phase.

Title: Re: Assembly Mod Slots
Post by: GrimmC on May 09, 2011, 22:39

Does it warp you to a different section of Sosaria when it is?

Title: Re: Assembly Mod Slots
Post by: Game Hunter on May 12, 2011, 11:38

Quote from: GrimmC on May 09, 2011, 21:06

Do assemblies still count has having x amount of mod slots taken up, or can you proceed to throw more on there?

I'm wondering because my Tactical Armor won't let me throw a power mod on it, and I'm not sure if it's specifically blocked out from further mods or if its mod slots are all considered used up.

Under normal circumstances, assemblies are unmoddable. This is essentially a way to properly balance them, since a lot of assemblies are similar to exotics: while you are allowed to "create exotics", you are limited in the modding department, so in many cases, the assembled counterparts are equal to unmodded exotics, the latter of which can surpass the former once mods are gained.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

However, by investing in Whizkid(2) BEFORE assembling a piece of equipment, you can add a single mod on top of it. So yes, if you wait long enough, you can make a power-modded tactical armor.  It's a tough decision to hold on to your mods for a while longer, but it can often be worth it in the long run. (Note that you do not need to be carrying the mod or anything related to the previous buggy nature, this is an intentional addition to the game, albeit a hidden one.)

Title: Re: Assembly Mod Slots
Post by: grommile on May 12, 2011, 14:45

Does that apply to non-basic assemblies?

I am suddenly thinking "firestorm modded hyperblaster".

Title: Re: Assembly Mod Slots
Post by: Aoi on May 15, 2011, 02:32

Another question about how mods are handled: the wiki mentions being able to craft Nanofiber Skin Cybernetic Armor. However, when I actually try to assemble it, I first get the prompt about turning it into Nanofiber Armor, which I reject, then a line about how it can't take another one of those mods despite having two ranks of Whizkid.

It seems like there's some interesting behavior when putting mods on before having both levels of Whizkid-- I DID put the first mod on before getting Whizkid(2)... Did I break something in the process, am I supposed to turn it into Nanofiber first, or has it been changed so that Cybernetic can't be given Nanofiber Skin?

Title: Re: Assembly Mod Slots
Post by: UnderAPaleGreySky on May 15, 2011, 03:36

To my knowledge, Cybernetic is still able to be made into nanofiber skin. I think that in order to make it, you have to use the mods in a PNP or NPP order, as armour can't normally take two power mods.

Title: Re: Assembly Mod Slots
Post by: thelaptop on May 15, 2011, 05:37

Assembly recipes are more than just which mods to slap on -- sone of the more complex ones have an innate order that must be followed to circumvent the usual interpretation of a non-assembly producing mod attempt.

I think that the Wiki should be updated to show which orders of slapping on the mods are valid to avoid the pain that some folks might be having.

Hint: The order in which the mods are added do have an impact on the stats of the final assembly.