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Requests For Features / Re: Master Traits and the possible defense/weapon combos
« on: October 17, 2009, 06:28 »
How I see the problem.
Defenses:
- Active (Unreliable, it's an all or nothing type of defense most of the time, emphasis on the nothing)
- Passive (You'll always take some hits with this defense, they just won't hurt you much, reliable, mows down on your medkits/armors a bit compared to tactical)
- Tactical (If you're in control, you'll prevent most attacks, If you get surrounded/surprised you're in trouble)
Balance wise, Tactical and Passive are ok, while Active defense is clearly the underdog. I would improve dodging a bit:
Dodging works like this (as i see it/made-up numbers):
Whenever a ranged attack is used, the game checks for dodging (let's say it rolls 1d100 against the dodge chance)
(let's say dodge chance = 40%)
IF 1d100>40 then the shot isn't dodged and hits the marine normally.
IF 1d100<40 then the shot is dodged and heads to the position the target was on the previous turn.
If you're moving sideways to the trajectory, you're ok... If you moved parallel to the shot, you get hit. If you fired/reloaded/etc., you get hit.
What I would propose would be:
(let's say dodge chance = 40%)
IF 1d100+40<100 No dodge
IF 100<1d100+40<130 Dodge1 -> shot moves to target's previous position
IF 130<1d100+40>160 Dodge2 -> shot moves to target's position from 2 turns ago
IF 160<1d100+40 Dodge3 -> shot moves to target's position from 3 turns ago
At high dodge chances this would enable you to get things done between shots and even dodge BoH Splash damage, Rev/Vile attacks at times.
Regarding Master traits:
- MAD is very good compared to DM mainly because the Double Shotgun can't dish out enough pain at close range. If it could MAD wouldn't be such a no-brainer.
- MAc, great for people who don't want ammo concerns. IF not for the 2 guaranteed Agiltiy mods on the Chained Courts this wouldn't be so dominant.
- FireAngel, funny how the mother of all Active defenses blocks Hellrunner.
- Blademaster and Vampyre even themselves out, although Blademaster has some advantage.
- GunKata is somewhat fun, although you might miss some firepower on higher difficulties.
- CatEye is a well-known trait but i think the requirements/blocks are wrong. Could be made more versatile.
I like your Run n' Gun :>. The others not really.
Defenses:
- Active (Unreliable, it's an all or nothing type of defense most of the time, emphasis on the nothing)
- Passive (You'll always take some hits with this defense, they just won't hurt you much, reliable, mows down on your medkits/armors a bit compared to tactical)
- Tactical (If you're in control, you'll prevent most attacks, If you get surrounded/surprised you're in trouble)
Balance wise, Tactical and Passive are ok, while Active defense is clearly the underdog. I would improve dodging a bit:
Dodging works like this (as i see it/made-up numbers):
Whenever a ranged attack is used, the game checks for dodging (let's say it rolls 1d100 against the dodge chance)
(let's say dodge chance = 40%)
IF 1d100>40 then the shot isn't dodged and hits the marine normally.
IF 1d100<40 then the shot is dodged and heads to the position the target was on the previous turn.
If you're moving sideways to the trajectory, you're ok... If you moved parallel to the shot, you get hit. If you fired/reloaded/etc., you get hit.
What I would propose would be:
(let's say dodge chance = 40%)
IF 1d100+40<100 No dodge
IF 100<1d100+40<130 Dodge1 -> shot moves to target's previous position
IF 130<1d100+40>160 Dodge2 -> shot moves to target's position from 2 turns ago
IF 160<1d100+40 Dodge3 -> shot moves to target's position from 3 turns ago
At high dodge chances this would enable you to get things done between shots and even dodge BoH Splash damage, Rev/Vile attacks at times.
Regarding Master traits:
- MAD is very good compared to DM mainly because the Double Shotgun can't dish out enough pain at close range. If it could MAD wouldn't be such a no-brainer.
- MAc, great for people who don't want ammo concerns. IF not for the 2 guaranteed Agiltiy mods on the Chained Courts this wouldn't be so dominant.
- FireAngel, funny how the mother of all Active defenses blocks Hellrunner.
- Blademaster and Vampyre even themselves out, although Blademaster has some advantage.
- GunKata is somewhat fun, although you might miss some firepower on higher difficulties.
- CatEye is a well-known trait but i think the requirements/blocks are wrong. Could be made more versatile.
I like your Run n' Gun :>. The others not really.
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0.9.9 / Re: First game in new version and ...
« on: October 17, 2009, 05:27 »
If that is a bugged Teleporter, I've never found one.
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Nightmare! / Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« on: October 17, 2009, 05:24 »
I think Thomas' tips for Nightmare! are already quite to the point. I would consider making a badges guide.
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Nightmare! / Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« on: October 17, 2009, 03:46 »Which ones are impossible?UAC Diamond - My best time on N! ever was just under 18m, with a Butcher's Cleaver on lvl2. To be able to shave 3 min off that would require epic RNG intervention.
Strongman / Demonic - I still haven't suceeded on a fist run even on HMP, haven't really tried hard either, but can't really see this happening.
Marksman - I don't know how doable this would be with an early unique. Still wouldn't be easy.
Centurial Diamond - Same as UAC, might be possible with an early Cleaver. Still 60 min for 100 levels averages at 36s/lvl. (No Chained Courts and you can't just enter a special level and leave)
Longinus Diamond - Considering the AoD's Hp on Nightmare! you'd need epic RNG intervention. Even 2 Zerk packs near the entrance might be insufficient.
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Nightmare! / Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« on: October 16, 2009, 14:06 »Dervis, you know the reqs for even more ranks?I think it's this, but Kornel should give you the numbers if anything's missing.
Yay!
Brigadier General - Requires 4 platinum, 1 diamond.
Lieutenant General - Requires 8 platinum, 3 diamond.
General - Requires 10 platinum, 4 diamond.
Marshal - Requires 12 platinum, 5 diamond.
Legend - Requires 7 diamond
Blade - Requires 10 diamond
God hand - Requires 15 diamond
Do you think you can achieve the remaining diamonds?There are 3 or 4 I got my eye on, however there are others I think are virtually impossible.
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Announcements / Re: DoomRL 0.9.9 RELEASED!
« on: October 16, 2009, 11:21 »
YAY!
We need a cake to celebrate! :P
We need a cake to celebrate! :P
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Nightmare! / Re: [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« on: October 16, 2009, 09:22 »
Check attachment. I don't consider Longinus Diamond since it was acquired when it could still be nuked.
Edit: Just noticed I got Quartermaster Diamond when it was bugged also. This challenge is quite doable though. So make that 8/19.
Edit: Just noticed I got Quartermaster Diamond when it was bugged also. This challenge is quite doable though. So make that 8/19.
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Discussion / Re: Wiki: Reactivation
« on: October 16, 2009, 09:09 »
I came across an extremely outdated page, when following a link to berserk effects.
http://doom.chaosforge.org/wiki/index.php?title=Minor#Berserk
http://doom.chaosforge.org/wiki/index.php?title=Minor#Berserk
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Nightmare! / Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« on: October 16, 2009, 08:54 »
Actually I'm at 9/19 Diamond, but each new badge now takes a lot of planning/luck to achieve.
Blade = 10 Diamond Badges
God hand = 15 Diamond Badges (Yeah right... :P)
Blade = 10 Diamond Badges
God hand = 15 Diamond Badges (Yeah right... :P)
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Nightmare! / Re: [N!|Standard|92%|Diamond|YAVP] Elite
« on: October 16, 2009, 03:32 »Do you even sleep?I played way too much DoomRL during the holidays :P.
What I wanna know is how did you get to clevel 18, as rescumming no longer works...O_oI'm not sure about this, but i think the required xp for high levels got lowered since 0.9.8.10. Anyway do notice I visited and cleared everything except AoD and Lava Pits (no envirosuits).
And how do you clear the mort on N! anyway?
Clearing Mortuary is the same as clearing the Arena. The respawns are extremely random, sometimes you have to kill the same monster 3 times on a row, sometimes 6+ monsters get rezzed together, sometimes hardly anything gets rezzed.
How are respawning enemies handled?This. Even if you don't care about chasing the respawns, you'll get 75%+ just by 'clearing' the level.
Does a revived enemy count as another enemy for both killing and being left alive?
On a side note, Ammochain is clearly the best trait for UV+... there's barely anything a Plasma Rifle A2 can't handle.
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Nightmare! / [N!|Standard|92%|MAc|YAVP] Elite Diamond
« on: October 15, 2009, 15:40 »
Cybernetic Armor + Onyx pack is absolutely ridiculous. Other than that I spent a VERY LONG time in the Mortuary until I got it cleared (respawns on top of respawns). Well i actually needed it for the kill count so I think it went rather well.
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DoomRL (v.0.9.9) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Dervis, level 18 Arch-Vile Legend, defeated the Cyberdemon
on level 25 of the Phobos base.
He survived 104088 turns and scored 970980 points.
He played for 2 hours, 27 minutes and 25 seconds.
He opposed the Nightmare!
He killed 2242 out of 2417 hellspawn. (92%)
He held his right to remain violent.
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
UAC Star (silver cluster)
Aurora Medallion
Grim Reaper's Badge
Hell Champion Medal
Elite Diamond Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 70/80 Experience 164472/18
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +0 ToDmg Ranged +3 ToDmg Melee +3
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Ironman (Level 3)
Finesse (Level 2)
Hellrunner (Level 2)
Son of a bitch (Level 3)
Reloader (Level 1)
Juggler (Level 1)
Dodgemaster (Level 1)
Whizkid (Level 2)
Triggerhappy (Level 2)
Ammochain (Level 1)
SoB->SoB->Fin->Fin->TH->WK->MAc->TH->SoB->WK->Iro->Iro->Iro->HR->HR->DM->Jug->Rel->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] modified Cybernetic Armor [10] (AOP)
[b] [ Weapon ] modified plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [40/40] (A2T1)
[c] [ Boots ] modified plasteel boots [4/4] (178%) (ABT)
[d] [ Prepared ] advanced rocket launcher (6d7) [1/1] (A3B1P1)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] Missile Launcher (7d6) [4/4]
[b] Malek's Armor [3/3] (100%)
[c] rocket (x5)
[d] small med-pack
[e] small med-pack
[f] small med-pack
[g] large med-pack
[h] large med-pack
[i] large med-pack
[j] large med-pack
[k] large med-pack
[l] phase device
[m] envirosuit pack
[n] thermonuclear bomb
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
192 former humans
195 former sergeants
127 former captains
369 imps
247 demons
151 lost souls
141 cacodemons
159 barons of hell
1 Cyberdemon
116 hell knights
143 arachnotrons
108 former commandos
14 pain elementals
47 arch-viles
142 mancubi
90 revenants
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
He left the Arena as a champion!
On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
On level 7 he witnessed the Wall.
He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
On level 10 he found the Onyx Armor Pack!
On level 11 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
On level 13 he found the Cybernetic Armor!
On level 14 he found the Phaseshift Boots!
On level 16 he found the Trigun!
On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
On level 17 he found the Malek's Armor!
On level 19 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
On level 21 he entered the Vaults.
On level 21 he found the Phaseshift Armor!
He managed to clear the Vaults completely!
On level 22 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
On level 23 he found the Missile Launcher!
Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort...
The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
Cyberdemon fires! You are hit!
Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort...
The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon.
Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort...
The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The
missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon reloads his rocket launcher.
Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort...
The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon dies. Congratulations!
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
Before him 358 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
307 of those were killed.
2 of those were killed by something unknown.
11 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
And 8 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.
Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
Is he immortal? 30 souls claim to have killed him...
2 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
26 killed the bastard and survived.
2 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.
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Discussion / Re: Screenshots: ASCII and Graphics
« on: October 15, 2009, 15:21 »Given how I vex him when I decide to play with the Bee Bee Gun and the Phase Pistol, it's... justified, to say the least.Unique armor + Unique mod = win.
@Dervis: What's wrong with DR 10?
Actually I was going to use the mod on a Red armor, but only found the first one on the same level as Cyberarmor. Tried to take this amazing armor to kill AoD with a combat knife without Brute... failed miserably.
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Discussion / Re: Screenshots: ASCII and Graphics
« on: October 15, 2009, 13:48 »
Damn it! Can't get rid of this armor...
[0/1] lying here.
You can't, it's cursed!
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Dervis Armor : modified Cybernetic Armor [10] (AOP)
Health: 98% Exp: 11/3% Weapon: modified plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [40/40] (A2T1)
cautious Phobos Base Lev13
[0/1] lying here.
You can't, it's cursed!
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Dervis Armor : modified Cybernetic Armor [10] (AOP)
Health: 98% Exp: 11/3% Weapon: modified plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [40/40] (A2T1)
cautious Phobos Base Lev13
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Discussion / Re: Screenshots: ASCII and Graphics
« on: October 15, 2009, 05:34 »
I edited, I believe you, however the game has rejected the 2nd nuke on me before.
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Discussion / Re: Screenshots: ASCII and Graphics
« on: October 15, 2009, 05:31 »
I tried to set 2 Nukes together once too, however I got some "Are you crazy?" message or something.