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DoomRL => Discussion => Topic started by: MaiZure on February 23, 2011, 04:15

Title: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: MaiZure on February 23, 2011, 04:15
This is the post where we chip in ideas for specific build names based on Master Trait, the 81 40 advanced trait combos OR specific builds names that we might feel strongly about. Anything listed here is tenative and changeable.

MASTER TRAITS
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Ammochain - Shocktrooper
Army of the Dead - Stormtrooper
Cateye - Pointman OR Vanguard
Vampyre/Blademaster - Master-at-Arms
Gun Kata - Neo
Fireangel - Artillery



ADVANCED TRAITS

     |  JUG   |  BER   |   DG   |   DM   |   INT  |   WK   |   BAD  |   SM   |   TH   | 
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 JUG | Clown  | Crazy  |Indecisv|Acrobat*|Tacticn |Jack of |Quarter-|Elephant| Itchy  | 
     |  Act   | Clown  |Marksman|        |        |AllTrade|Master* | Hunter | Limbs  | 
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 BER |        |Bskerer | Crazed |Cyborg  |Assassin|Termin- |  The   |  SAM   | Heavy  | 
     |        |        |Marksman|Ninja   |        |ator    |  Hulk  |        |        | 
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  DG |        |        |Marksman|Infiltr-|Sniper  | Hitman | Turret |  Crow  | Itchy  | 
     |        |        |        | ator   |        |        |        | Hunter |Marksman| 
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  DM |        |        |        |Qtrback |  Monk  |Runaway |  Max   |Punisher|Running | 
     |        |        |        |        |        | Tinker | Payne* |        | Psycho | 
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 INT |        |        |        |        |Medium  |  Nerd  |  Zen   |Shotgun |Sharp-  | 
     |        |        |        |        |        |        | Master |Surgeon | Shooter| 
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  WK |        |        |        |        |        |Engineer|MacGuyvr|Mechanic|  Gun   | 
     |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        | Addict | 
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 BAD |        |        |        |        |        |        |  Tank  |Desper- |  Duke  | 
     |        |        |        |        |        |        |        | ado    |  Nukem | 
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  SM |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |Redneck | Outlaw | 
     |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        | 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  TH |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |Itchy   | 
     |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        | Fingers| 
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*denotes more than one proposed - check postings for more info



3 Advanced Trait Builds will be listed here separately:

BER + DG + SM = Boy Scout
SM + JUG + IRO = Mecha


XXX



No Master or Advanced = Grunt

[thelaptop: Fixed formatting for great justice.]
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: Tavana on February 23, 2011, 04:19
Might I be the first to be completely not constructive and applaud your use of time in creating that chart.
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: ParaSait on February 23, 2011, 05:39
Could be a nice thread, this. Problem is that a lot of possible combinations in the chart are just plain useless. But what about...

BER = Berserker
DG = Marksman
2INT = Medium
2WHI = Engineer or Assembler
BAD = Tank
SHO = Redneck
BER + DM = Cyborg Ninja
DG + WHI = Hitman
TH + WHI = Gun addict
BAD + DM = Max Payne

Useless combos like DG + JUG, BER + TH and friends = Trait waster :P
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: thelaptop on February 23, 2011, 06:58
Uhhh... Whizkid is WK not WHI, Shottyman is SM not SHO...

Question: Does order matter?  I mean does it matter if I got DG first before WK, versus say WK before DG?

If it does, you get your 81.  Otherwise, it's about half of that number, give or take a few rounding errors.  ;-)
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: Kashi on February 23, 2011, 07:01
Instead of Force Recon, Cateye's should be more accurately called Pointman, which is closer to the use of the master trait (To scout ahead of the force, searching the enemies in an insecure territory)
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: thelaptop on February 23, 2011, 07:30
TH - Itchy fingers
DM - Quarterback
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: ZZ on February 23, 2011, 08:17
BER+INT: Assasin
DM+BAD: Defender
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: ParaSait on February 23, 2011, 11:08
What would be nice is if this build name feature is implemented, the game would keep a collection of builds you did before in player.wad. Wee, more stuff to achieve, and it would surely encourage people to experiment with various builds. :)
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: Thexare on February 23, 2011, 15:24
I'm not sure I agree with Commando for MGK. I've always associated that with somewhat heavier weapons - Combat Shotguns, Chainguns, and Plasma Rifles in DoomRL terms.

A couple ideas:

Master Traits:
Cateye: Vanguard

Advanced Traits:
Whizkid/Juggler: Quartermaster
Dodgemaster/Badass: Scout (lots of survival, less emphasis on killing)
Intuition/Dualgunner: Sniper
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: Nameless on February 23, 2011, 16:57
Dualgunner + Badass = Turret
Whizkid + Intuition = Tactician
Juggler + Dodgemaster = Runner
Intuition + Dodgemaster = Monk
Shottyman + Juggler + Ironman = Mecha
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: thelaptop on February 23, 2011, 17:12
Ber + Jug = Crazy Juggler
Jug + DG = Indecisive Marksman
Jug = Clown Act
Jug + DM = Acrobat
Jug + Int = Tactician
Jug + Bad = Carefree Tactician

I think we should use Acrobat for Jug + DM, simply because you are quick on both your feet and your hands.
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: Fanta Hege on February 23, 2011, 17:40
Ber + Whiz = Terminator
Ber + SM = SAM
Ber + TH = Heavy

something for the more "useless" side =P
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: Nameless on February 23, 2011, 18:30
Berserker + Dualgunner + Shottyman = Boy Scout. :D
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: MaiZure on February 24, 2011, 17:17
Some very interesting ideas in here and only a handful left!
I notice most people like naming those useless ones
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: thelaptop on February 24, 2011, 17:32
Jug + Ber = Crazy Clown
Jug + WK = Jack of all Trades
Jug + SM = Elephant Hunter
Jug + TH = Itchy Limbs
Ber + DG = Crazed Marksman
Ber + Bad = The Hulk
DG + SM = Crow Hunter
DG + TH = Itchy Marksman
DM + WK = Runaway Tinkerer
DM + TH = Running Psycho
Int + WK = Nerd
WK + Bad = MacGuyver
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: MaiZure on February 25, 2011, 07:39
Thanks everyone!

We have suggestions for just about everything, but feel free to still post here with other ideas.
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: Nameless on February 25, 2011, 08:20
A few alternate suggestions ...

Dodgemaster + Triggerhappy = Vigilante
Juggler + Triggerhappy = More Dakka (Dakka Lova?)
Dodgemaster + Berserker = Black Belt
Berserker + Badass = Juggernaut
Dodgemaster + Whizkid = Stockpiler / Hoarder

Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: Shoop da Whoop on February 25, 2011, 08:38
WK + SM = me Kustom Gunna. Because of it's orky feel.
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: Kashi on February 25, 2011, 14:20
BER + BAD = Angry Marine (FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-!)
WK + BAD = Predator
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: GrimmC on May 12, 2011, 09:15
More than just Master traits or 1 + 1 advanced, how about some interesting combinations.

For example, one I've been toying with is "Doomguy Generalist." i.e., you do everything the Doomguy could do in the originals.

So:

Badass (supercharge doesn't go away as in Doom)
Dodgemaster (your sidesteps basically always work)
Shottyman (move and reload)
Hellrunner (you're the fastest darn thing in the game once again)
perhaps Ironman (HP to 100)

plus the necessary basic traits.

Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: grommile on May 12, 2011, 11:09
Dodgemaster implies Hellrunner :)

You need Eagle Eye in there too, by the way.
Title: Re: Build Names - Community Discussion
Post by: Kamikaze14 on May 12, 2011, 11:33
BER+BAD=Man and a Half