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DoomRL => Post Mortem => Nightmare! => Topic started by: 2DeviationsOut on April 26, 2012, 09:47

Title: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: 2DeviationsOut on April 26, 2012, 09:47
So, for a challenge I decided to do a 100% Conqueror Damageless game on N!, but then I went for the Apostle kill because I got the DS. I also decided not to use Blademaster because it would make things easier.

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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.6) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 TwoDev, level 17 Apostle God Hand Marine,
 defeated the Mastermind on level 8 of Hell.
 He survived 74234 turns and scored 926377 points.
 He played for 57 minutes and 50 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 1605 out of 1605 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
 He was an Angel of Masochism!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 11
  Levels completed : 11

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  Cyberdemon's Head
  UAC Star (gold cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Explorer Badge
  Conqueror Badge
  Fallout Platinum Cross
  Untouchable Cross
  Angelic Badge
  Chessmaster's Token
  Chessmaster's Cross
  Hell Arena Pwnage Medal
  Shambler's Head
  Apostle Insignia

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 120/60   Experience 155428/17
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +10  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +15

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Finesse          (Level 3)
    Tough as nails   (Level 3)
    Brute            (Level 5)
    Berserker        (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Badass           (Level 2)
    Vampyre          (Level 1)

  Bru->Bru->Ber->Bru->Bad->MVm->Bad->TaN->TaN->Fin->Fin->WK->WK->TaN->Bru->Bru->Fin->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Berserker Armor [4]
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   Dragonslayer (9d9)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   antigrav plasteel boots [2/2] (100%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   nothing

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] missile launcher (6d6) [4/4]
    [b] nuclear BFG 9000 (8d8) [40/40]
    [c] BFG 9000 (10d8) [100/100]
    [d] BFG 9000 (10d8) [100/100]
    [e] Grammaton Cleric Beretta (2d6) [18/18]
    [f] bullet-proof vest [1/1] (100%)
    [g] ballistic vest [1/1] (100%)
    [h] Lava Armor [4/4] (100%)
    [i] cybernano red armor [10] (P)
    [j] phase device
    [k] envirosuit pack
    [l] technical mod pack
    [m] agility mod pack
    [n] agility mod pack
    [o] bulk mod pack
    [p] bulk mod pack
    [q] bulk mod pack
    [r] bulk mod pack
    [s] onyx armor pack
    [t] hatred skull

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Melee      - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Shrapnel   - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Acid       - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 95% 
    Fire       - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 85% 
    Plasma     - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    122 former humans
    134 former sergeants
    66 former captains
    188 imps
    76 demons
    537 lost souls
    55 cacodemons
    50 hell knights
    81 barons of hell
    64 arachnotrons
    30 former commandos
    42 pain elementals
    40 revenants
    60 mancubi
    34 arch-viles
    4 nightmare imps
    4 nightmare cacodemons
    8 nightmare demons
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 lava elemental
    1 agony elemental
    1 Angel of Death
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 Arena Master
    1 Apostle

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 7 he witnessed the Wall.
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 8 he assembled a piercing blade!
  On level 10 he entered Hell's Armory.
  On level 10 he found the Grammaton Cleric Beretta!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 12 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  He nuked level 13!
  On level 13 he found the City of Skulls.
  He wiped out the City of Skulls.
  He nuked level 14!
  On level 14 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
  He nuked level 14!
  On level 14 he assembled a antigrav boots!
  He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
  He nuked level 15!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  He left level 16 as soon as possible.
  On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
  On level 20 he assembled a cybernano armor!
  On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  On level 20 he found the Berserker Armor!
  He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
  He nuked level 21!
  On level 22 he entered the Lava Pits.
  On level 22 he found the Lava Armor!
  He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  He nuked level 24!
  He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
  Then finally in hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 There are stairs leading downward here. You need to taste blood!
 This is it. This is the lair of all evil! What will you meet here? You need
 to taste blood!
 You use a phase device. You feel yanked in an non-existing direction! You
 You see : floor
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You see : a Apostle (unhurt) | floor | [ m ]ore
 You hit the Apostle. You need to taste blood!
 You hit the Apostle. You need to taste blood!
 You hit the Apostle. The Apostle dies. Congratulations! You defeated the
 Apostle! Press <Enter>...
 Next!
 You need to taste blood!

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 1382 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 1180 of those were killed.
 23 of those were killed by something unknown.
 16 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 61 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 77 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 3 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 38 killed the bitch and survived.
 36 showed that it can outsmart hell itself.

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Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaFW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Matt_S on April 26, 2012, 10:17
I... I don't even see how this is possible...

About 1 kill every 2 seconds on average.  Killing everything on Nightmare! in less than an hour, plus conqueror, without taking any damage.  And picking Vampyre in a no damage run. And a cybernano armor in your inventory?
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaFW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Uranium on April 26, 2012, 10:36
...


Nightmare Angel of Patience win?
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaFW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: LuckyDee on April 26, 2012, 11:46
You are scary. Words fail me in every other respect.

Edit: Found words. Please record run. Want to see what I'm wetting my pants for.
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaFW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Tormuse on April 26, 2012, 15:50
I... I don't even see how this is possible...

I think that's a common reaction to 2Dev.  :)
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Klear on April 27, 2012, 01:34
I'm still waiting for the N! AoPc YAAM.
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: LuckyDee on April 27, 2012, 01:51
I'm still waiting for the N! AoPc YAAM.

TwoDev's scary - you're just plain evil :)
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: LuckyDee on April 27, 2012, 02:20
I couldn't resist: had this been TwoDev's first run, he would have earned a whopping 42 achievements in 1 try (based on the current descriptions on the Wiki).

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I could have missed one or two, of course.

This run does make me think that the descriptions for both Chessmaster Medals are outdated..
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Klear on April 27, 2012, 02:33
...which means he would have become Imp Sergeant Major, though he'd have already fulfilled the requirements for the Brigadier General rank (ehm... something I haven't been able to do in over 700 games...) and maybe Mancubus.
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: mihey1993 on April 27, 2012, 04:10
YaUW in topic name stands for Yet Another Usual/Useless Win? Lol i think, we, usual players have nothing to do there already xD
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Zecks on April 27, 2012, 05:39
i think it's Ultimate Win (apostle ending)
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Matt_S on April 27, 2012, 09:28
I couldn't resist: had this been TwoDev's first run, he would have earned a whopping 42 achievements in 1 try (based on the current descriptions on the Wiki).
While that's very impressive, I'll have to be a party-pooper: if this was his first run, he couldn't play on Nightmare! ;)
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: LuckyDee on April 27, 2012, 09:44
Doesn't matter - he still scares me.
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Creepy on April 27, 2012, 16:35
Welp. It's over, 2dev beat us, we can all go home. No more reason to keep trying.

=P

Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Kg on April 28, 2012, 02:13
Well, I still don't believe it's possible. Video or it didn't happen ;P
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: LuckyDee on April 28, 2012, 02:21
if this was his first run, he couldn't play on Nightmare! ;)

Yes he could. TwoDev is the new Chuck Norris.
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Tormuse on April 28, 2012, 06:31
Welp. It's over, 2dev beat us, we can all go home. No more reason to keep trying.

=P

I know you're joking, but I'm gonna say anyway that I don't think you can judge your performance based on someone else's; you have to play by your own standards.  If I had given up simply because "other players are better," I never would have achieved my first Diamond.
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Creepy on April 28, 2012, 08:27
I know you're joking, but I'm gonna say anyway that I don't think you can judge your performance based on someone else's; you have to play by your own standards.  If I had given up simply because "other players are better," I never would have achieved my first Diamond.

Of course I'm joking. What kind of spaz would stop playing a single-player game because someone else is better at it? XD
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Creaphis on April 28, 2012, 09:07
Well, I'm the kind of guy who reads guides on Minesweeper just to see how the experts keep their times down. I don't expect to ever play like 2dev (who's actually at least 4 deviations above average by my reckoning) but I'm still interested in knowing how he does it.

@2dev:

You took an extra level of badass after MVm and lots of levels of TaN. Wouldn't these be useless if the goal is to take no damage at all, or is there something I'm missing here? Does berserker armor allow you to "shrug off" grazing attacks like the survivalist skill? Does the game consider you to not have taken damage if you end the turn with more HP than you started with (thanks to MVm)?

Also, what's your control scheme? When I try to play faster, I find that mouse control is useful as the character automatically moves until an enemy comes in view. (If I'm quickly tapping a direction key on the keyboard I might hit it a few too many times and suffer damage.) However, moving automatically means you don't get much time to think about sound cues. It seems to me that the "ideal" method of play would be to stick to the keyboard and to give yourself time to react to sound cues and enemies coming into view, but this must be too slow a method to finish a game like this in an hour. Is this what you do? Are your reflexes just that good?
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: Zero Gravitas on April 28, 2012, 13:46
The only explanation I can think of is that 2Deviations is some sort of robot solely designed to annihilate DoomRL.
Title: Re: [N!|AoMs|100%|YaUW] Damageless 100% Conqueror, Apostle Insignia
Post by: 2DeviationsOut on April 28, 2012, 16:37
You took an extra level of badass after MVm and lots of levels of TaN. Wouldn't these be useless if the goal is to take no damage at all, or is there something I'm missing here? Does berserker armor allow you to "shrug off" grazing attacks like the survivalist skill? Does the game consider you to not have taken damage if you end the turn with more HP than you started with (thanks to MVm)?

Nah, I was just kinda messing around and taking useless traits.

As far as my control scheme goes, my trick is using the console so I can see everything at once and get the most information the fastest, and I also use a mechanical keyboard so I can "bounce" the keys and hover right over the actuation point so I have a really fast typing speed. I also have a fully-reprogrammable keyboard, so I set up the keys so that I automatically run, and I only move normally if I'm holding the Shift key.

I also have quite good reflexes. My main other game that I play is Counter Strike Source, so I've worked on my reflexes a lot.