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Requests For Features / Re: Challenge modes ideas - old and new.
« on: September 06, 2011, 08:28 »
Angel of Hallucination:
all icons apart from walls, floors and doors are randomised for icons, colours, sounds and names every level. So you might end up fighting a Baron of hell that looks like a Large Medpack labelled as "Plasma rifle" while making former commando noises. Would encourage extremely cautious play I suspect. Stuff in your inventory would have it's normal name but dropping it would show the name it has on that level.
all icons apart from walls, floors and doors are randomised for icons, colours, sounds and names every level. So you might end up fighting a Baron of hell that looks like a Large Medpack labelled as "Plasma rifle" while making former commando noises. Would encourage extremely cautious play I suspect. Stuff in your inventory would have it's normal name but dropping it would show the name it has on that level.
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Requests For Features / Re: New Level Event: Late-Level Enemies, Triggers/Hidden Rooms
« on: September 06, 2011, 08:01 »
So basically adding a keycard system similar to what doom levels had is what you're suggesting?
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Off Topic / Re: Can't seem to log onto the wiki
« on: September 03, 2011, 11:01 »
Ah okay, thanks.
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0.9.9.4 / [M||YAAM] Yea Though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of death...
« on: September 02, 2011, 16:40 »
...I shall fear no evil because the only enemy that could reliably do more than one HP of damage to me was anything bigger than a Baron of hell.
My first victory on 0.9.9.4!! woop!
Power Armour is the bees knees, mutts nutts and whatever other body part of an animal metaphor you'd use. I mean christ as I said, The only enemy that could do more than a single hp of damge to me in a single attack was the baron of hell and the mancubus, although Arachnatrons would do about 6 hp because of their burst firing, same with Former Commandos. Power armour is seriously the best armor in the game as far as I can tell and if you raid the armory and get a nanopack I'd highly recommend it. It doesn't have a move speed penalty unlike red armour, is impossible to destroy and has so much damage reduction that you can essentially ignore any enemy that isn't doing plasma or acid damage.
Also argh! I tried to get a hyperblaster (it's the go-to gun for ammochain because of it's tiny tiny firespeed and increased number of shots from triggerhappy (a plasma rifle will get 2 shots from triggerhappy, an increase of 33%, but a hyperblaster will get 2 shots as well for an increase of 66% in the same firetime!!) but just couldn't find any technical packs anywhere. In the end I just powermodded a plasma rifle to heck in order to blast things to death faster.
Also I found a vault on level one. With two red armors in. Two. On level one. That was pretty cool.
Also Revenents seem to have changed now. Instead of shooting you exactly they shoot a spot near you which will always hit that point, making it possible to dodge and move out of the way now. Seems like a nice change since cluster of revenants will no longer headshot you.
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DoomRL (v.0.9.9.4) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Drone, level 11 Imp Lance Corporal Marine,
defeated the Cyberdemon on level 25 of the Phobos base.
He survived 154607 turns and scored 110886 points.
He played for 2 hours, 3 minutes and 5 seconds.
He didn't like it too rough.
He killed 536 out of 536 hellspawn. (100%)
This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 9
Levels visited : 6
Levels completed : 6
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Hell Armorer Badge
Medal of Prejudice
Hell Champion Medal
Veteran Bronze Badge
UAC Bronze Badge
Armorer Bronze Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 33/60 Experience 59700/11
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +0 ToDmg Ranged +2 ToDmg Melee +2
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Marine
Finesse (Level 2)
Son of a bitch (Level 2)
Reloader (Level 2)
Whizkid (Level 2)
Triggerhappy (Level 2)
Ammochain (Level 1)
SoB->SoB->TH->TH->Rel->Rel->MAc->Fin->Fin->WK->WK->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] power armor [8/8] (92%)
[b] [ Weapon ] BFG 9000 (10d8) [60/100]
[c] [ Boots ] plasteel boots [2/2] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] modified missile launcher (6d6) [4/4] (T1)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] modified plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [40/40] (A1T1)
[b] modified plasma rifle (1d10)x6 [27/40] (A1P3)
[c] rocket (x14)
[d] power cell (x70)
[e] power cell (x70)
[f] power cell (x70)
[g] power cell (x70)
[h] power cell (x70)
[i] power cell (x70)
[j] power cell (x70)
[k] power cell (x28)
[l] large med-pack
[m] large med-pack
[n] large med-pack
[o] large med-pack
[p] large med-pack
[q] large med-pack
[r] large med-pack
[s] phase device
[t] fire skull
[u] acid-proof boots [0/0] (100%)
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
Acid - internal 0% torso 0% feet 50%
Fire - internal 0% torso 25% feet 25%
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
91 former humans
74 former sergeants
16 former captains
64 imps
45 demons
118 lost souls
22 cacodemons
19 barons of hell
1 Cyberdemon
14 hell knights
16 arachnotrons
6 former commandos
7 pain elementals
9 arch-viles
9 mancubi
21 revenants
2 bruiser brothers
1 shambler
1 Arena Master
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
He left the Arena as a champion!
On level 6 he stormed the Chained Court.
On level 6 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
On level 6 he assembled a tactical armor!
On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory.
On level 9 he found the Nano Pack!
He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
On level 11 he witnessed the Wall.
He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
On level 13 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
On level 14 he assembled a power armor!
On level 15 he encountered the Phobos Hellgate.
On level 16 he assembled a gatling gun!
On level 19 he stumbled into complex full of mancubi!
On level 21 he entered the Vaults.
On level 21 he found the Berserker Armor!
He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
On level 24, hell just froze!
Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
You see : floor
Fire -- Choose target...
You see : floor
You dodge!
Fire -- Choose target...
You see : Drone (wounded) [m]ore | blood
Find a more constructive way to commit suicide.
Fire -- Choose target...
You see : out of vision
Fire -- Choose target...
You see : floor
You wear/wield : a BFG 9000 (10d8) [100/100] You are hit!
Fire -- Choose target...
You see : a Cyberdemon (mortally wounded) [m]ore | pool of blood
The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon dies. You feel relatively
safe now. Congratulations! You defeated the Cyberdemon! Press <Enter>...
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
14 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
13 of those were killed.
1 souls destroyed the Cyberdemon...
1 killed the bastard and survived.
-------------------------------------------------------------- My first victory on 0.9.9.4!! woop!
Power Armour is the bees knees, mutts nutts and whatever other body part of an animal metaphor you'd use. I mean christ as I said, The only enemy that could do more than a single hp of damge to me in a single attack was the baron of hell and the mancubus, although Arachnatrons would do about 6 hp because of their burst firing, same with Former Commandos. Power armour is seriously the best armor in the game as far as I can tell and if you raid the armory and get a nanopack I'd highly recommend it. It doesn't have a move speed penalty unlike red armour, is impossible to destroy and has so much damage reduction that you can essentially ignore any enemy that isn't doing plasma or acid damage.
Also argh! I tried to get a hyperblaster (it's the go-to gun for ammochain because of it's tiny tiny firespeed and increased number of shots from triggerhappy (a plasma rifle will get 2 shots from triggerhappy, an increase of 33%, but a hyperblaster will get 2 shots as well for an increase of 66% in the same firetime!!) but just couldn't find any technical packs anywhere. In the end I just powermodded a plasma rifle to heck in order to blast things to death faster.
Also I found a vault on level one. With two red armors in. Two. On level one. That was pretty cool.
Also Revenents seem to have changed now. Instead of shooting you exactly they shoot a spot near you which will always hit that point, making it possible to dodge and move out of the way now. Seems like a nice change since cluster of revenants will no longer headshot you.
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Off Topic / Can't seem to log onto the wiki
« on: September 02, 2011, 15:46 »
When I try to logon to the wiki using the password/username I have here, it doesn't seem to work. I don't know if this is the case for anyone else but It's annoying me a bunch when I find/see something in the new version and then can't go add it to the wiki.
Is anyone else having this problem or knows how to fix it? For what its worth I think it might be a global thing, since only two different people appeared to have editted the wiki in the past thirteen days(!!!).
Is anyone else having this problem or knows how to fix it? For what its worth I think it might be a global thing, since only two different people appeared to have editted the wiki in the past thirteen days(!!!).
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0.9.9.1 / [M|AoLC|100%|YAAM] Through hell with me and my racist armour
« on: March 23, 2010, 18:43 »--------------------------------------------------------------
DoomRL (v.0.9.9.1) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Drone, level 10 Imp Corporal, sacrificed himself to kill the Cyberdemon
on level 25 of the Phobos base.
He survived 152487 turns and scored 93157 points.
He played for 1 hour, 52 minutes and 24 seconds.
He didn't like it too rough.
He killed 462 out of 462 hellspawn. (100%)
This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
He was an Angel of Light Travel!
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Medal of Prejudice
Hell Champion Medal
Lightfoot Bronze Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health -5985/50 Experience 46448/10
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +0 ToDmg Ranged +3 ToDmg Melee +3
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Finesse (Level 2)
Son of a bitch (Level 3)
Whizkid (Level 2)
Triggerhappy (Level 2)
Ammochain (Level 1)
SoB->SoB->TH->Fin->Fin->WK->MAc->TH->WK->SoB->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] modified red armor [6/6] (196%) (BNP)
[b] [ Weapon ] modified plasma rifle (1d9)x6 [40/40] (A1P2)
[c] [ Boots ] nothing
[d] [ Prepared ] modified BFG 9000 (10d8) [130/130] (B1)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] modified red armor [6/6] (69%) (PT)
[b] power cell (x50)
[c] power cell (x50)
[d] power cell (x50)
[e] small med-pack
[f] small med-pack
[g] large med-pack
[h] large med-pack
[i] large med-pack
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
99 former humans
70 former sergeants
23 former captains
77 imps
42 demons
47 lost souls
33 cacodemons
10 barons of hell
1 Cyberdemon
4 hell knights
23 arachnotrons
3 former commandos
2 pain elementals
5 arch-viles
10 mancubi
11 revenants
2 bruiser brothers
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
He left the Arena as a champion!
On level 6 he stormed the Chained Court.
On level 14 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
On level 15 he encoutered the Phobos Hellgate.
On level 19 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
On level 20 he found the Nano Pack!
Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
He nuked level 25!
On level 25 he finally sacrificed himself to kill the Cyberdemon.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. Warning! Explosion in 3 seconds!
Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort... The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon fires! You are
hit! Warning! Explosion in 2 seconds!
Chain fire (initial) -- Choose target or abort...
Warning! Explosion in 1 seconds!
You hear an explosion! You hear an explosion! You hear an explosion! You
hear an explosion! You hear an explosion! You hear an explosion! You
hear an explosion! You hear an explosion! You hear an explosion! You hear
an explosion! You feel relatively safe now. Congratulations! You
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
Before him 37 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
34 of those were killed.
And 2 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.
Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
Is he immortal? 1 souls claim to have killed him...
1 killed the bastard and survived.
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I decided to try my first AoLT game today, since I'd been trying AoM and AoS a lot recently but kept dying (mainly at hellgate, that entrance is a bitch with only pistols) Had a fairly lucky round up to level 13, as most levels had a convientent berserk pack or supercharge on it somewhere. At level 14 however I almost died to a couple of Barons when I ran out of ammo (I'd been counting on myself to get ammochain by then), ironically these two barons gave me enough xp to get ammochain and I managed to defeat the bruiser bros without too much of a problem.
The next problem was that I didn't get a single Plasma rifle until about Phobos hell 3. This was kinda bad because by then I was fighting mancubuses and revenents and all kind of other nasties which my trusty chaingun bullets were just richochetting harmlessly off. Also, my stalwart [BP] Red armour was beginning to fall apart due to aformentioned badmen. Then I found my First ever NANO PACK! Which allowed me to turn my crummy [BP] armour into cacodemon hating, Daemonophobic, [BNP] Armour (not racist). This armour hated demons so much it would literally stop their bullets making me take as much damage with it's pure, unadulterated hate. Even Archviles seemed drawn to tears by the fact their pathetic attacks were amounting to nothing but half damage. On the other hand it could of just been good armour, I can't really tell.
From there it was essentially blasting everything in the face with plasma until it died and having most weaker attacks ping off me. I took no chances though and nuked the cyberdemon since I didn't want to fight him and die stupidly (I made that mistake with my previous AoSG run :v) Although actually when he wandered over to see what the beeping was from the armed nuke I almost had him. Oh well. My first ever challenge game completed hells yeah
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0.9.9.1 / Re: [M|100%|YAAM] Pile o' Medkits
« on: March 19, 2010, 16:40 »For your reference, you can only put one type of mod in an armour. So, no Onyx Armour P3, sorry. However you can have Onyx Armour [APT].Damnit, have to hope for an onyx armour pack and do [OPA] on a red armour then
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0.9.9.1 / [M|100%|YAAM] Pile o' Medkits
« on: March 19, 2010, 07:07 »--------------------------------------------------------------
DoomRL (v.0.9.9.1) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Drone, level 10 Former Human Private FC, defeated the Cyberdemon
on level 25 of the Phobos base.
He survived 169977 turns and scored 87617 points.
He played for 2 hours and 10 minutes.
He didn't like it too rough.
He killed 409 out of 409 hellspawn. (100%)
This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Medal of Prejudice
Hell Champion Medal
UAC Bronze Badge
Veteran Bronze Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 70/50 Experience 40650/10
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +0 ToDmg Ranged +3 ToDmg Melee +3
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Finesse (Level 2)
Son of a bitch (Level 3)
Whizkid (Level 2)
Triggerhappy (Level 2)
Ammochain (Level 1)
SoB->SoB->TH->Fin->Fin->WK->MAc->TH->WK->SoB->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] modified onyx armor [4] (AP)
[b] [ Weapon ] modified plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [40/40] (A2T1)
[c] [ Boots ] plasteel boots [4/4] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] modified BFG 9000 (10d8) [130/130] (B1)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] modified rocket launcher (6d6) [1/1] (B1)
[b] red armor [4/4] (75%)
[c] rocket (x10)
[d] power cell (x27)
[e] power cell (x50)
[f] large med-pack
[g] large med-pack
[h] large med-pack
[i] large med-pack
[j] large med-pack
[k] large med-pack
[l] large med-pack
[m] large med-pack
[n] large med-pack
[o] large med-pack
[p] large med-pack
[q] homing phase device
[r] envirosuit pack
[s] thermonuclear bomb
[t] agility mod pack
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
61 former humans
49 former sergeants
11 former captains
96 imps
39 demons
53 lost souls
36 cacodemons
14 barons of hell
1 Cyberdemon
10 hell knights
19 arachnotrons
2 former commandos
2 pain elementals
5 arch-viles
7 mancubi
2 revenants
2 bruiser brothers
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
He left the Arena as a champion!
On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
On level 12 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
On level 15 he encoutered the Phobos Hellgate.
Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort... The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. Boom! The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits
the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. Boom! Boom! The missile
hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon fires!
You are hit!
Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort... The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
Cyberdemon.
Chain fire (full) -- Choose target or abort... The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile hits the
Cyberdemon. The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon dies. You
feel relatively safe now. Congratulations! You defeated the
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
Before him 4 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
4 of those were killed.
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and I didn't even have to use one fighting the cyberdemon. I was gonna nuke him but then realised I had 200% health on entering the map and had over half my inventry as large medkits. Incidently the Onyx armour owns an awful lot. I was gonna put as many power mods on it as I could but only ever got one. Hellgate almost killed me because of the walls coming down. Bruiser brothers died to a hail of BFG blasts. In all, a good run, and my only YAAM run :v
edit: sorry, fixed
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Discussion / Re: You play too much DooMRL when...
« on: January 09, 2010, 10:10 »
you buy a gun and then stand in doorways firing directly left and right without looking, waiting for the sound that indicates theres a baron of hell in the corner. When someone askes what you are doing you reply "it's okay, I've got ammochain"
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Requests For Features / Re: Late game shotgun boost
« on: January 09, 2010, 10:03 »
perhaps make army of the dead also add +1 to to the max damage of each shotgun pellet? So that 8d3 for the normal shotgun becomes 8d4, and so on.
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0.9.9 / Re: [E|Standard|95%|15|YASD] These hands of mine...
« on: January 09, 2010, 09:56 »
And fists do very little damage compared to a chainsaw, which is the usual melee weapon to use unless you get the butchers cleaver or the longinus spear, which doesn't help the chace of it happening.
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Requests For Features / Re: 'Flavoured' Levers
« on: January 08, 2010, 04:51 »
Have it so that with level 2 int, the first time you use a lever is says "After examining this lever you're pretty sure it's an X" without activating it. The lever then has a 75% chance of being what you think it is, and a 25% of being another random lever.
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0.9.9 / Re: [E|Standard|99%|YASD] One more level and it would have been YAAM :(
« on: January 08, 2010, 04:48 »Man, so close. The worst is when you die with a health pack still on you.It's even worse when you have hoarded a ton of medpacks but then get zerg rushed by mancubuses or something when turning a corner and die instantly from full health. That's happened to me before :<
--Ahaha. Yeah, you commented that you still had a medpack while I was typing. Fuse some cells together to make a medpack!
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Requests For Features / Re: Challenge modes ideas - old and new.
« on: January 07, 2010, 08:09 »
Angel of arena: Every randomised map you encounter will be an arena map.
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Requests For Features / Re: New unique items
« on: January 06, 2010, 15:25 »
RPC-14
Damage: 5d6 per second, maximum of 5 seconds
Accuracy: +3
Clipsize: 1 (starts empty)
Firing time: 1 second
Reload time 3 seconds
Fire: Fires a Rocket powered chainsaw at the target. Continuously chainsaws the target until it dies. However, since theres only one chainsaw (currently) You will then have to retrieve your chainsaw from the corpse)
Reload: Reloads the RPC with a Chainsaw and a rocket.
Universal Ammo pack
Essentially a reusable device that when used, turns all of the selected ammo type into a varying amount of Nano Ammo;
1 bullet = 0.5 NAs, 1 Rocket = 5 NAs, 1 Cell = 0.75 NAs, 1 shotgun shell = 1.5 NAs
Any gun can then use NAs to reload, however, the exchange rate back is double what the exchange rate to (ie, a rocket launcher could reload with 10 NAs, which is 2 rockets worth of NAs)
NA stacks in 50s, meaning it is not space efficient, but does mean that ammo types useless for your guns can still be used (ie, ammochain characters could turn all that useless 10mm into rockets or cells for use in the BFG)
My two cents.
Damage: 5d6 per second, maximum of 5 seconds
Accuracy: +3
Clipsize: 1 (starts empty)
Firing time: 1 second
Reload time 3 seconds
Fire: Fires a Rocket powered chainsaw at the target. Continuously chainsaws the target until it dies. However, since theres only one chainsaw (currently) You will then have to retrieve your chainsaw from the corpse)
Reload: Reloads the RPC with a Chainsaw and a rocket.
Universal Ammo pack
Essentially a reusable device that when used, turns all of the selected ammo type into a varying amount of Nano Ammo;
1 bullet = 0.5 NAs, 1 Rocket = 5 NAs, 1 Cell = 0.75 NAs, 1 shotgun shell = 1.5 NAs
Any gun can then use NAs to reload, however, the exchange rate back is double what the exchange rate to (ie, a rocket launcher could reload with 10 NAs, which is 2 rockets worth of NAs)
NA stacks in 50s, meaning it is not space efficient, but does mean that ammo types useless for your guns can still be used (ie, ammochain characters could turn all that useless 10mm into rockets or cells for use in the BFG)
My two cents.
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