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General => Off Topic => Topic started by: karnot on August 09, 2006, 03:00

Title: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: karnot on August 09, 2006, 03:00
Hear ye, hear ye !
Come one, come all !

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/

This...this is one incredible piece of a game. And its only version 0.2 !
And the guy behind it, i'd say he's greater than Kornel and Biskup combined (no offence, Kornel). :)

In short, its a mix of a standard (but highly detailed) rogulike and Dungeon Keeper, lead your very own dwarven tribe, dig tunnels in the mountainsides, fight off creatures from the depth and surface, OR play as your everyday adventure seeker.

Since roguelikes rarely happen to be completely finished - the chances for us to see version 1.0 are not 100%...but imagination runs wild...
Title: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Anticheese on August 09, 2006, 06:31
Interesting, I'll check it out..
Title: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: karnot on August 09, 2006, 11:22
Oops, i guess i was wrong, this game is made by two people, not one.
Title: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Kornel Kisielewicz on August 09, 2006, 13:08
Quoting: karnot
And the guy behind it, i'd say he's greater than Kornel and Biskup combined (no offence, Kornel). :)

Have you seen GenRogue and Carceri? ^_^
P.S. Neither have I.
P.S.2. No offence karnot, but it's not a nice practice to register at one roguelikes forum ONLY to promote another roguelike :/
Title: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: karnot on August 09, 2006, 13:37
Well, as far as i understand - GenRogue will still be (if ever) a traditional roguelike at its best. Now this...this is something completely different, wouldnt you say ?

And, well, DoomRL is great and all, but what can i contribute at this point, except some YASD and the like, which are already overabundant here and there.
Title: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Aerton on August 09, 2006, 13:43
Quoting: karnot
Now this...this is something completely different, wouldnt you say ?


Then why do you compare fishes with horses?
Title: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Santiago Zapata on August 09, 2006, 16:26
I must confess the world generator is amazing, it outclasses my world generator for Guardian Angel :p

However from the screenshots I can say the battle system is extremely and unnecesarly complicated, there is little level of abstraction there. And the graphics seem too screwy to my eyes in some parts.

But!

You cannot compare this game with DoomRL... they are very different things!

Simplifying and abstracting things so they are easier to handle by the player, while still retaining the game feeling is *hard* and balancing that is even harder, it is harder than just creating a complex structure and letting the user battle against it, this factor may be escaping from you
Title: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Malek Deneith on August 10, 2006, 16:44
Quoting: karnot
And the guy behind it, i'd say he's greater than Kornel and Biskup combined (no offence, Kornel). :)

Heresy!
Title: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: JimmyJ on August 16, 2006, 08:43
Yep, malek, i hear it, and i say it ;) (at least until doomr; gets updated)
Title: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Santiago Zapata on August 16, 2006, 16:18
That project is being talked about a lot lately.... I dont want to check it! :p