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DoomRL => Requests For Features => Topic started by: Thomas on January 02, 2009, 05:56

Title: [Balance] Pain Elementals appear in very late caves
Post by: Thomas on January 02, 2009, 05:56

Something seems odd. In Nightmare!ish caves, you get:

Very Early: Lost souls
Early: Demons
Mid: Cacos
Late: Arachs
Very Late: Pain Elementals

Now, pain elementals are obviously a lot easier to kill than arachnotrons, so what gives? If you can beat an Arachnocave on level 16, then become stronger (As doomguy tends to do), you should be able to kill a bunch of pain elementals on level 22 a lot more easily than that, right?

Unless Kornel's programmed them to only spawn in Nightmarish Caves, which would be kind of smart, because there is NOTHING more ANNOYING than TEN RESPAWNING PAIN ELEMENTALS.

Ahem. So yeah, pain elementals, easier than Arachs but appear later. Fix that. Unless it's intentional on N! and doesn't happen on any other difficulty, in which case I hate Kornel.

Title: Re: [Balance] Pain Elementals appear in very late caves
Post by: ZZ on January 06, 2009, 13:15

Hey, Pain Elementals do not respawn in DooM. If they do in Doomrl you need to fix this! How could they do if they do not leave body. And as far as I know, in hellish caves lvl 22-24 you could see arachno's. My idea that there should be Arch-Viles

Title: Re: [Balance] Pain Elementals appear in very late caves
Post by: ParaSait on January 06, 2009, 13:58

Quote from: ZZ on January 06, 2009, 13:15

Hey, Pain Elementals do not respawn in DooM.

I don't think ANY monster respawns in Original Doom. They just are randomly spawned every X seconds, but I don't know of any previously killed enemies are brought back from the dead.

Title: Re: [Balance] Pain Elementals appear in very late caves
Post by: Captain Trek on January 06, 2009, 21:33

Quote from: Mrazerty on January 06, 2009, 13:58

Quote from: ZZ on January 06, 2009, 13:15

Hey, Pain Elementals do not respawn in DooM.

I don't think ANY monster respawns in Original Doom. They just are randomly spawned every X seconds, but I don't know of any previously killed enemies are brought back from the dead.

I believe he's refering to how Viles can't ressurect Pain Elementals in Doom...

Title: Re: [Balance] Pain Elementals appear in very late caves
Post by: ZZ on January 07, 2009, 02:21

NO!
I've REALLY talking about resurecting on N!. I've played Doom2 on N!, and killed pain Elementals do not revive(spawning another o0nto the corpse of fallen) because they do NOT leave corpse, simular to the lost soul.