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DoomRL => Discussion => Topic started by: Sereg on April 25, 2013, 00:34

Title: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: Sereg on April 25, 2013, 00:34
I haven't played much DoomRL under the current version, and I'm not too familiar with the new layout.

I was running a few AoPc games trying to get those lower badges(I have gold from a previous version where that only required completing AoPc), and ran into some trouble at Babel.

Is there a way to run past the Cyberdemon, like with the Bruiser Brothers? Is there a staircase I didn't find? Or do you have to be lucky enough to find an invulnerability powerup on the previous level, like with the old full wins? I had to drop my nuke and settle for Bronze, and I'd like to do better next time.
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: LuckyDee on April 25, 2013, 00:42
There is indeed a staircase on the far end of the level...
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: SageAcrin on April 25, 2013, 09:26
...do note that it's only there on AoPc, though.
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: Sereg on April 25, 2013, 10:34
Good to know, thanks. I'll have a look for it next run.
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: AlterAsc on April 25, 2013, 14:53
It should be like that for a pacifist:
Marine: [Diplomacy] Let me pass! Your boss is a threat to all living things!
Cybie: Oh my god, you're right! Hurry, here's the key to the stairwell to Hell!
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: Tormuse on April 25, 2013, 20:11
It should be like that for a pacifist:
Marine: [Diplomacy] Let me pass! Your boss is a threat to all living things!
Cybie: Oh my god, you're right! Hurry, here's the key to the stairwell to Hell!

Cybie:  ...but I'm gonna have to fire a few rockets at you as you run by so it looks like I'm still doing my job.
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: Sereg on April 25, 2013, 22:54
Found it, got my AoPc Silver now.

Now... how am I going to get enough golds for captain... I'm so bad at this game =P
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: Evilpotatoe on April 26, 2013, 01:33
It should be like that for a pacifist:
Marine: [Diplomacy] Let me pass! Your boss is a threat to all living things!
Cybie: Oh my god, you're right! Hurry, here's the key to the stairwell to Hell!
Cybie:  ...but I'm gonna have to fire a few rockets at you as you run by so it looks like I'm still doing my job.

xD xD xD
Would have made such a great doomRL comic !


Reminds me of angband's doomguys to-do list :
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: Klear on April 26, 2013, 02:47
Found it, got my AoPc Silver now.

Now... how am I going to get enough golds for captain... I'm so bad at this game =P

You're learning. Since you're still gaining new badges and ranks, you are definitely improving. Before you know it, you'll snatch your first diamond.
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: Ashannar on April 26, 2013, 12:05
I seriously don't know how people get diamond badges. My first diamond is probably going to be from getting uniques..
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: grommile on April 26, 2013, 12:35
Now... how am I going to get enough golds for captain... I'm so bad at this game =P
Build all basic assemblies (#1: Technician). Enter Babel with plenty of Invulnerability duration left (#2: Gatekeeper). Clear Unholy Cathedral (#3: Longinus). Complete Angel of Overconfidence (#4: Daredevil; I recommend cheesing it with a Dual Angel AoB/AoOC). Complete Angel of 100 (#5: Centurial). Clear the Vaults (#6: Scavenger).

Other viable targets are "Complete the Mortuary" (Reaper) and "Complete AoMC on HMP+ with the Untouchable Badge" (Destroyer).

I'm tempted to say it's harder to get the 15 silvers than the six golds.
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: LuckyDee on April 26, 2013, 12:59
I'm tempted to say it's harder to get the 15 silvers than the six golds.

With you on that one... :S
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: dtsund on April 26, 2013, 13:14
Enter Babel with plenty of Invulnerability duration left (#2: Gatekeeper).

Alternately, do Babel as Fireangel; it's pretty easy to defeat the Cyberdemon without taking damage with that trait.
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: grommile on April 26, 2013, 13:21
I seriously don't know how people get diamond badges. My first diamond is probably going to be from getting uniques..
Assemblies. Getting Diamond from uniques means collecting three Berserker Armors.
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: SageAcrin on April 26, 2013, 18:35
Means three Dragonslayers, too.

Berserker Armor, at least anyone can pick up.

To be honest, I have the same progress on Armorer Gold as I do Technician Diamond(I'm one item from both). Armorer Diamond is a pill.

Also, hope you can pull off the reqs for Azrael's Scythe three times. :)
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: Klear on April 27, 2013, 02:24
I seriously don't know how people get diamond badges. My first diamond is probably going to be from getting uniques..

Been there. Just focus on the badges in your range first. Soon you'll be playing on UV and you'll have a chance to look at some of the diamonds.
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: grommile on April 27, 2013, 15:25
Also, hope you can pull off the reqs for Azrael's Scythe three times. :)
Dual Angel of Berserk Overconfidence on HMP.
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: Sereg on April 27, 2013, 16:54
Dual Angel of Berserk Overconfidence on HMP.

Good idea... http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php/topic,6409.0.html (http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php/topic,6409.0.html)

Edit: On a related note... I was trying out some AoPc+AoOC to see if I could get my Pacifist Gold legit for 997(I have it from 996 when it was just complete AoPC), and I didn't start with a nuke? Is that intended?
Title: Re: Babel on AoPc?
Post by: Evilpotatoe on April 28, 2013, 04:15
[...] and I didn't start with a nuke? Is that intended?
Sounds obviously intended.
I tried it, and got the surprise when I met MM -> loled and shift-Q :p

Just go throught the mortuary and youl'll get your nuKlear BFG

I doubt [insert some challenge here] +AoOc are really legit anyway. Technically, they are of course, but... well getting diamond in 5 minutes pseudo-N! games doesn't require much skill, especially as AoB.