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Discussion / Re: Screenshots: ASCII and Graphics
« on: March 13, 2012, 20:12 »
What happened when you shot the group in the first picture?
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0.9.9.6 / Re: [E|87%|9|YASD] SUDDENLY (The unsuccessful teleportation to Deimos)
« on: March 13, 2012, 19:22 »I prefer to clear the wall using mostly shotguns, since I hate the thought of wasting a mod on the rocket launcher, which is about to be replaced by the missile launcher.
Indeed. I'm pretty methodical about it. I'll blow an ideal corner-shooting area out of the wall with the rocket launcher. And an alternate one I can fall back to if I get swarmed.
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Discussion / Re: Shotgun Build discussion.
« on: March 13, 2012, 18:34 »The "wasted" EE does suck a little in the early game, but it makes all the rockets hit straight in the late game, so there's sort of a balance.
And then you find a Revenant Launcher.
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Discussion / Re: Shotgun Build discussion.
« on: March 13, 2012, 06:28 »
300 shells is weak. I regularly carry 560 or more (that's 8 stacks with the backpack).
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Discussion / Re: Shotgun Build discussion.
« on: March 13, 2012, 00:19 »SO far I expect the best dedicated shotgun build with the scout is Int-Int-Rel-Rel-SM-HR-HR-DM-Fin-either into MSH or WK, depending of mods abundance. Tactical shotgun is a must I guess.
Granted, Int->Int first thing certainly helps survivability, but I usually prefer Rel->Rel. Double-reloader turns the regular shotgun into a tool that allows you to corner shoot any enemy in the game indefinitely. Rel->Rel->SM also makes Hell's Arena easier than Int 2, in my opinion.
Ah, and about shells—if you have the chance to archvile-farm sergeants safely, do it.
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0.9.9.6 / Re: [U/AoMr/95%/YAVP] The chances of that happening were just- woooow.
« on: March 12, 2012, 19:03 »
Congrats. :) During my first AoMr run, the RNG gave me Anti-Freak Jackal and Trigun. I know how it feels.
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0.9.9.6 / Re: [E|87%|9|YASD] SUDDENLY (The unsuccessful teleportation to Deimos)
« on: March 12, 2012, 18:52 »
Yeah, spawning near a pack of enemies is common enough that you always want to have a phase handy. I also find it beneficial to have a shotgun out before you take the stairs to a regular level. The spread will usually allow you to attack most of the pack at once.
You always get several free turns at the beginning of the level. What you decide to do with those turns is very important. Usually, you want to play to your strengths. If you have a really good firing speed but poor movement speed, then you'll want to light them up immediately. In the opposite case, you'll probably want to run away.
You always get several free turns at the beginning of the level. What you decide to do with those turns is very important. Usually, you want to play to your strengths. If you have a really good firing speed but poor movement speed, then you'll want to light them up immediately. In the opposite case, you'll probably want to run away.
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Discussion / Re: Bad habits
« on: March 12, 2012, 18:42 »
I didn't know you could turn off running early. I don't think that's too useful. I guess you could wait until an enemy fires, then turn it off and fire yourself without the accuracy hit. I guess you turn it off once you find good cover. That's pretty useful.
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Bug Reports / Re: [0.9.9.6G] No credit for badge
« on: March 11, 2012, 22:50 »
All right, thanks.
Anyone have any idea about the napalm launcher? I shot it against a nearby wall on JC's level to create a pool of lava, walked on it and tried to reload, but the game wouldn't let me.
Anyone have any idea about the napalm launcher? I shot it against a nearby wall on JC's level to create a pool of lava, walked on it and tried to reload, but the game wouldn't let me.
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Bug Reports / [0.9.9.6G] No credit for badge
« on: March 11, 2012, 22:08 »
Specifically, the silver daredevil badge (awarded for completing angel of confidence). The mortem says I completed it, the high score screen says I completed it, the game counted as a standard win, but the badge screen says I didn't. I nuked the mastermind but died to JC.
Edit: I just realized that those screens may merely be saying that I attempted the challenge. In that case, though, isn't it a bit counter-intuitive that the game counted as a standard win? It is confusing to me that I can net a standard win without getting the badge.
By the way, I couldn't reload the napalm launcher on that level. Intended behavior?
Edit: I just realized that those screens may merely be saying that I attempted the challenge. In that case, though, isn't it a bit counter-intuitive that the game counted as a standard win? It is confusing to me that I can net a standard win without getting the badge.
By the way, I couldn't reload the napalm launcher on that level. Intended behavior?
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DoomRL (v.0.9.9.6G) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Ashannar, level 9 Mancubus Warrant Officer Scout,
defeated the Mastermind on level 9 of Hell.
He survived 77764 turns and scored 68202 points.
He played for 1 hour, 56 minutes and 27 seconds.
He didn't like it too rough.
He killed 414 out of 449 hellspawn. (92%)
He held his right to remain violent.
He was an Angel of Confidence!
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 8
Levels visited : 3
Levels completed : 3
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
UAC Star (bronze cluster)
Hell Armorer Badge
Technician Silver Badge
Daredevil Bronze Badge
Lava Bronze Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 0/50 Experience 39118/9
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +0 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +0
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Scout
Hellrunner (Level 2)
Son of a gun (Level 2)
Dualgunner (Level 1)
Dodgemaster (Level 1)
Intuition (Level 2)
Gun Kata (Level 1)
Int->Int->HR->HR->DM->SoG->SoG->DG->MGK->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] tactical armor [0/0] (76%)
[b] [ Weapon ] BFG 9000 (10d8) [10/100]
[c] [ Boots ] tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] power battery (x120)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] tactical shotgun (8d3) [5/5]
[b] rocket launcher (6d6) [0/1]
[c] super shotgun (8d4)x2 [2/2]
[d] napalm launcher (7d7) [0/1]
[e] red armor [4/4] (154%) (B)
[f] 10mm ammo (x100)
[g] 10mm ammo (x100)
[h] shotgun shell (x38)
[i] agility mod pack
[j] bulk mod pack
[k] Hell Staff
[l] Enviroboots [0]
[m] shell box (x59)
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
None
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
27 former humans
33 former sergeants
6 former captains
32 imps
49 demons
127 lost souls
70 cacodemons
19 hell knights
9 barons of hell
6 arachnotrons
5 former commandos
9 pain elementals
10 revenants
5 mancubi
3 arch-viles
1 shambler
1 lava elemental
1 Cyberdemon
1 Spider Mastermind
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
On level 2 he entered Hell's Armory.
On level 2 he assembled a tactical boots!
He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
On level 4 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
On level 5 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
On level 6 he assembled a tactical armor!
On level 7 he found the Hell Staff!
On level 8 he found the Tower of Babel!
On level 11 he stumbled into complex full of revenants!
On level 14 he found the Enviroboots!
On level 14 he entered the Lava Pits.
He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
Level 15 was a hard nut to crack!
Then at last he found Dis!
He nuked level 16!
He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
On level 17 he finally defeated the Mastermind.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
You wear/wield : a rocket launcher (6d6) [0/1]
You dodge! You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a
freed soul!
You have no more ammo for the rocket launcher!
You swap your weapons.
You dodge! You hear the scream of a freed soul!
You see : a cacodemon (severely wounded) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
The missile hits the cacodemon. You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear
the scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the
scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the
scream of a freed soul! You hear the scream of a freed soul! You hear the
scream of a freed soul!
You see : pool of blood
You hear the scream of a freed soul! The cacodemon dies. You hear the scream
of a freed soul! You are hit! You die!... Press <Enter>...
Boom!
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
26 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
16 of those were killed.
10 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
10 killed the bitch and survived.
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Discussion / Re: Help me understand guns that are not shotguns
« on: March 11, 2012, 12:51 »2) MAc allows you to actually carry more...stuff, also allows you to carry spare weapons, mods and even a shotgun with ammo, (If you so choose) since you don't really need more than two stacks of 10mm/cells.
In the last cateye rapid fire build I did, I carried a combat shotgun, BFG, missile launcher, chaingun, and plasma rifle, with enough shells to shoot to my heart's content. I had pretty sizable stacks of 9mm and plasma. With a bit of management, I never came close to running out of either ammo type. 9mm on weaker enemies, rockets + plasma on harder. I agree, though- if you want to spam plasma, MAC is the way to go.
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4) I fail to see how TaN, SoG and EE are the best traits in the game. I agree that EE is one of the best, but TaN and SoG...not so much. SoG simply because in a situation where you would build towards Ammochain, whyever you would use a pistol is beyond me. You still have access to Fin/WK/Jug which allow speed, which complements the spam provided by Ammochain.
For some reason I was under the impression that HR was blocked by ammochain, but I was wrong. That's a bit better.
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Discussion / Re: Help me understand guns that are not shotguns
« on: March 11, 2012, 06:20 »Eg, let's say I open the door to a wide open space, and fire the shotgun to scout for bad guys. I hear some bad guys. What do I do? I can't possibly wait around for them to advance and engage them one on one
Rapid fire builds are actually best-suited to do just that. You're guaranteed to get one salvo off before retaliation; formers and imps are guaranteed kills with a vanilla chaingun once you have EE and SoB (barring armors, of course). (Once you tag an enemy it will head straight for you without delay, so it's not like it's a long wait.)
Doorways are pretty inferior to proper cover (unless of course your enemy is along the wall). With int, you should be able to lure the enemy to an advantageous spot. So basically: in close quarters, game intuition. Long-range, game cateye. Really, you shouldn't ever get hit unless you get surrounded.
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I've tried Int based builds and it seems to alleviate the problem somewhat, but how do people do Ammochain builds and all that stuff?
Int/cateye is superior in every way to ammochain, in my opinion. Not only is ammochain basically pointless unless you're doing AoLT, but it blocks all the best traits.
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0.9.9.6 / [M|AoI|YAAM] Powered red armor + archvile blast = lol
« on: March 11, 2012, 05:43 »--------------------------------------------------------------
DoomRL (v.0.9.9.6G) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Ashannar, level 11 Mancubus Warrant Officer Scout,
defeated the Mastermind on level 8 of Hell.
He survived 121676 turns and scored 98418 points.
He played for 2 hours, 35 minutes and 27 seconds.
He didn't like it too rough.
He killed 571 out of 571 hellspawn. (100%)
This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
He was an Angel of Impatience!
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 11
Levels visited : 5
Levels completed : 5
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Mastermind's Brain
Medal of Prejudice
UAC Star (silver cluster)
Untouchable Badge
Hell Champion Medal
Shambler's Head
Eagerness Bronze Badge
Eagerness Silver Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 50/50 Experience 50766/11
ToHit Ranged +2 ToHit Melee +2 ToDmg Ranged +3 ToDmg Melee +3
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Scout
Finesse (Level 1)
Hellrunner (Level 2)
Son of a bitch (Level 3)
Eagle Eye (Level 1)
Intuition (Level 2)
Triggerhappy (Level 1)
Cateye (Level 1)
SoB->Int->Int->EE->SoB->HR->TH->MCe->HR->SoB->Fin->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] powered red armor [5/5] (100%)
[b] [ Weapon ] missile launcher (6d6) [0/4]
[c] [ Boots ] tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] BFG 9000 (10d8) [100/100] (N1)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] tactical shotgun (8d3) [5/5]
[b] high power chaingun (1d8)x4 [26/26]
[c] high power plasma rifle (1d9)x6 [26/26]
[d] tactical armor [0/0] (100%)
[e] phaseshift armor [2/2] (100%)
[f] 10mm ammo (x140)
[g] 10mm ammo (x140)
[h] 10mm ammo (x140)
[i] 10mm ammo (x140)
[j] shotgun shell (x70)
[k] shotgun shell (x70)
[l] rocket (x10)
[m] power cell (x59)
[n] power cell (x70)
[o] power cell (x70)
[p] power cell (x70)
[q] power cell (x70)
[r] 10mm ammo chain (x250)
[s] 10mm ammo chain (x250)
[t] rocket box (x20)
[u] power battery (x120)
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
Melee - internal 0% torso 25% feet 0%
Fire - internal 0% torso 50% feet 0%
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
94 former humans
54 former sergeants
50 former captains
68 imps
47 demons
157 lost souls
25 cacodemons
12 hell knights
12 barons of hell
6 arachnotrons
3 former commandos
9 pain elementals
6 revenants
14 mancubi
8 arch-viles
2 bruiser brothers
1 shambler
1 Cyberdemon
1 Spider Mastermind
1 Arena Master
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
He left the Arena as a champion!
On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
On level 4 he assembled a tactical armor!
On level 7 he witnessed the Wall.
He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
On level 10 he entered Hell's Armory.
On level 10 he assembled a tactical boots!
He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
On level 11 he assembled a power armor!
On level 11 he assembled a high power weapon!
On level 11 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
On level 18 he assembled a high power weapon!
On level 19 he stumbled into complex full of mancubi!
On level 19 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
Then at last he found Dis!
On level 24 he finally defeated the Mastermind.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
You see : blood
You reload the missile launcher.
You reload the missile launcher.
You reload the missile launcher.
You reload the missile launcher.
You see : a Spider Mastermind (severely wounded) | floor | [ m ]ore
The missile hits the Spider Mastermind.
You see : a Spider Mastermind (mortally wounded) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
The missile hits the Spider Mastermind.
You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | blood | [ m ]ore
The missile hits the Spider Mastermind.
You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) | floor | [ m ]ore
The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind dies.
Congratulations! You defeated the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>...
You feel relatively safe now.
There are stairs leading downward here.
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
25 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
16 of those were killed.
9 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
9 killed the bitch and survived.
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Ironically, this was probably my easiest run ever. I decided to do a cateye/int build in order to take as little damage as possible. It worked quite well. I even got the untouchable badge.
This time, I got a lot of use out of the missile launcher, which was cool. I got pretty lucky with mod packs; once I assembled powered red armor (I learned the assembly this game!) the game was pretty much a breeze.
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Discussion / Re: The new Spider Mastermind...
« on: March 10, 2012, 13:37 »
Yeah.. it's all about speed. I just had a game where I could corner shoot it around a single pillar with impunity. 0.46 movement, 0.66 firing. Zerking w/ heavy armor is pretty effective too.
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0.9.9.6 / [M|AoLT|95%|YAVP] My strategy could use a little tweaking
« on: March 10, 2012, 06:09 »--------------------------------------------------------------
DoomRL (v.0.9.9.6G) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Ashannar, level 10 Mancubus Warrant Officer Scout,
defeated the Mastermind on level 8 of Hell.
He survived 103082 turns and scored 87337 points.
He played for 4 hours, 4 minutes and 18 seconds.
He didn't like it too rough.
He killed 479 out of 502 hellspawn. (95%)
He held his right to remain violent.
He was an Angel of Light Travel!
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 11
Levels visited : 6
Levels completed : 5
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Mastermind's Brain
UAC Star (bronze cluster)
Hell Champion Medal
Hell Armorer Badge
Lightfoot Bronze Badge
Lightfoot Silver Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 82/50 Experience 41030/10
ToHit Ranged +2 ToHit Melee +2 ToDmg Ranged +3 ToDmg Melee +3
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Scout
Finesse (Level 1)
Hellrunner (Level 1)
Son of a bitch (Level 3)
Eagle Eye (Level 1)
Intuition (Level 2)
Triggerhappy (Level 1)
Cateye (Level 1)
SoB->EE->SoB->TH->Fin->Int->MCe->Int->SoB->HR->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] tactical armor [0/0] (100%)
[b] [ Weapon ] nuclear plasma rifle (1d7)x8 [15/24] (F1)
[c] [ Boots ] tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] combat shotgun (7d3) [6/6] (B1)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] energy-shielded vest [1/1] (100%)
[b] shotgun shell (x48)
[c] small med-pack
[d] small med-pack
[e] phase device
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
None
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
76 former humans
52 former sergeants
15 former captains
87 imps
36 demons
123 lost souls
33 cacodemons
9 hell knights
9 barons of hell
22 arachnotrons
1 former commando
7 pain elementals
1 revenant
2 mancubi
2 bruiser brothers
1 shambler
1 Cyberdemon
1 Spider Mastermind
1 Arena Master
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
He left the Arena as a champion!
On level 4 he stormed the Chained Court.
He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
On level 5 he assembled a tactical armor!
On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
On level 10 he assembled a tactical boots!
On level 10 he entered Hell's Armory.
He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
On level 12 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
Level 13 was a hard nut to crack!
On level 14 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
Entering level 17 he was almost dead...
On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
Level 18 was a hard nut to crack!
Level 20 was a hard nut to crack!
Then at last he found Dis!
On level 24 he finally defeated the Mastermind.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
You see : out of vision
You see : a Spider Mastermind (heavily wounded) | floor | [ m ]ore
The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider
Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the
Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits
the Spider Mastermind. The missile hits the Spider Mastermind.
You start running!
You see : out of vision
You see : out of vision
You see : out of vision
You stop running.
You see : out of vision
You hear the scream of a freed soul! Congratulations! You defeated the Spider
Mastermind! Press <Enter>...
You feel relatively safe now.
The missile hits the arachnotron. The missile hits the arachnotron. The
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
24 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
16 of those were killed.
8 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
8 killed the bitch and survived.
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That was some run. My strategy was to obtain the nuclear plasma rifle from the spider's lair, thereby clearing up most of my inventory spots for non-ammunition.
The early game was a breeze. I built up slowly to a rapid fire build with the occasional nicety such as finesse. My approach here was to use both a chaingun and a shotgun, scavenging whatever ammo was available each level. This worked well, since a lot of times a level will be heavy on one ammo type or the other, allowing you to burn whichever has excess. My basic inventory setup was two slots for primary ammo, one for backup ammo, one med-pack, and one phase.
Things got a bit rough when I entered the spider's lair. I (fortunately!) ditched the phase for another med-pack before I went in. Got some bad luck getting double-teamed and had to burn through both of them early. Then I played really conservatively and somehow managed to pull out a victory with — get this — 2 shells and 2 bullets left. My reward was the nuclear plasma rifle!
A couple levels later, however, tragedy once again struck with the cyberdemon..
My strategy was going really well, keeping out of his range with my excellent speed and using cateye to get potshots off on him, but eventually, I had to 'turn around' so I could keep kiting him. I learned the hard way that there is no surefire way to do this; the pillars usually don't last long enough to do it with impunity. At this point, I had no med-packs and could only take 2 rockets to the face. A third one would kill me. Wouldn't you know, I did take those 2 rockets to the face. Fortunately, I took no more, and he went down while I had 8% hp.
Fortunately, there weren't any enemies in sight of where I spawned on the next level! And there was an invulnerability nearby! From this point on, I kept improving my build, and I found the mod that adds 2 extra shots to a rapid fire weapon. That was pretty cool.
With the 20% speed boost from AoLT, my tac boots/armor, scout class, and a point in hell runner, I had a ridiculous 0.46 movement speed. I could perpetually corner shoot the mastermind with impunity with no threat of retaliation, so that was rad. :)