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Jupiter Hell => Post Mortem => Topic started by: thelaptop on February 13, 2020, 01:58

Title: [0.8.8b|E|Sc|YAAM] - Gunslinger Is My First Love (First JH Win... Ever)
Post by: thelaptop on February 13, 2020, 01:58
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I have not won a single game of JH, and I was getting sick of that.  So I wussed out and got on Easy, and went forth with Gunslinger, the build that I've always enjoyed playing back in DRL.

I could've had my first win yesterday (had two ADV 9mm Pistols, one of which had Ignite and Cold on it!), but in a rash to shoot fast, I forgot to heal and got YASD.  Today, I finally had my first win, and can sleep better at night knowing that I have won one game on JH (despite it being Easy).

Question: How does a weapon with both Ignite and Cold work?  Ignite was intrinsic to the weapon, while Cold was from a mod -- do they nullify their effects, stack on top, or only the last one applied works?  I think I only saw Frozen status applied on the mobs, but I could be mistaken.

I'm not going to discuss my "tactics" because I'm playing on Easy like a scrub, and well, I don't have the kind of time I used to have 10 years go to try all kinds of crazy things.  =)

Side point though: maybe in the next update, we can have the progression of traits chosen in the mortem like how we used to have in DRL.  That way, it makes it easier for folks to learn play styles and what-not.  I also liked the old screenshot of the final screen as a way of memorialising the win/death, but that can be something for the [far] future.
Title: Re: [0.8.8b|E|Sc|YAAM] - Gunslinger Is My First Love (First JH Win... Ever)
Post by: Kornel Kisielewicz on February 13, 2020, 02:18
Congrats!

Unfortunately status effect nullify each other, so if you stack a cold or emp mod over a ignite weapon, the ignite is effectively lost.

Quote from: thelaptop on February 13, 2020, 01:58
Side point though: maybe in the next update, we can have the progression of traits chosen in the mortem like how we used to have in DRL.  That way, it makes it easier for folks to learn play styles and what-not.
Added to task list.
Title: Re: [0.8.8b|E|Sc|YAAM] - Gunslinger Is My First Love (First JH Win... Ever)
Post by: thelaptop on February 13, 2020, 03:23
Thanks for the congratulations!  =D

Quote from: Kornel Kisielewicz on February 13, 2020, 02:18
Unfortunately status effect nullify each other, so if you stack a cold or emp mod over a ignite weapon, the ignite is effectively lost.
What happens if I have one pistol with Ignite (pistol 1), and the other with Cold (pistol 2), while running Gunslinger?  What will proc then?
Title: Re: [0.8.8b|E|Sc|YAAM] - Gunslinger Is My First Love (First JH Win... Ever)
Post by: Kornel Kisielewicz on February 13, 2020, 03:45
The weapons are treated fully separately.
Title: Re: [0.8.8b|E|Sc|YAAM] - Gunslinger Is My First Love (First JH Win... Ever)
Post by: Tormuse on February 13, 2020, 12:58
Hey, congrats on your win!  :D

Quote from: thelaptop on February 13, 2020, 01:58
Side point though: maybe in the next update, we can have the progression of traits chosen in the mortem like how we used to have in DRL.

Careful, there.  Comparing JH to DRL is one of Kornel's pet peeves.  :P  Bring back kill percentages.

Quote from: Kornel Kisielewicz on February 13, 2020, 02:18
Unfortunately status effect nullify each other, so if you stack a cold or emp mod over a ignite weapon, the ignite is effectively lost.
Added to task list.

Ooh, this is valuable information.  Good to know!  :)
Title: Re: [0.8.8b|E|Sc|YAAM] - Gunslinger Is My First Love (First JH Win... Ever)
Post by: thelaptop on February 13, 2020, 17:28
Quote from: Kornel Kisielewicz on February 13, 2020, 03:45
The weapons are treated fully separately.
So... it is possible for a mob to be both frozen and burning?

/me ponders carefully

Thanks Tormuse!  Not as illustrious as you though hahaha!

Quote from: Tormuse on February 13, 2020, 12:58
Careful, there.  Comparing JH to DRL is one of Kornel's pet peeves.  :P  Bring back kill percentages.

Wasn't really trying to compare to DRL, but more on feeding some things I find useful to eventually up my game.  =)
Title: Re: [0.8.8b|E|Sc|YAAM] - Gunslinger Is My First Love (First JH Win... Ever)
Post by: Tormuse on February 14, 2020, 14:38
Quote from: thelaptop on February 13, 2020, 17:28
Thanks Tormuse!  Not as illustrious as you though hahaha!

Illustrious or not, it's pretty rare to see mortems from you, so it's nice to see.  :)