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526
0.9.9.1 / Re: [H|AoMc|YASD] Nice idea
« on: November 13, 2010, 11:37 »
The chained court starts with the equivalent of 5 berserk packs, I'm not trying to be a pain but I keep seeing people skip it.

As far as that build goes it's VERY good for shotguns early in the game. With 2 standard shotguns (equipped and prepared) and 1 combat shotgun (in backpack) it goes: fire standard, free swap, fire other standard, free swap, fire combat, then pump fire till target dies. Three shot without a reload or pump will kill most monsters. It's a transforming build, the early juggler is not for the pistols the SoaB and later SoaG is.

527
Discussion / Re: Screenshots: ASCII and Graphics
« on: November 12, 2010, 15:46 »
Let me guess, you play on windows so the white and gray blend together?

for reference I set mine to:
pistol = 10mm = former human = green
shotgun = shells = former sergeant = gray
chaingun = former captain = red

But I think I'll try it your way for a few.

528
0.9.9.1 / Re: [H|AoMc|YASD] Nice idea
« on: November 12, 2010, 15:40 »
Don't get me wrong, single pistol damage has proven to be a very good build but it's worth that one rank for dualgunner just for the option.

C4Cypher's 'Desperado' build is about abusing juggler with shotguns in the early game and switching to pistols later. It looks good on paper but still needs to be proven and refined.

As a side note, why did you skip the chained court? Your build needs as much exp early as possible so you can kill the later monsters.

529
0.9.9.1 / Re: [H|AoMc|YASD] Nice idea
« on: November 12, 2010, 01:26 »
hmmm, it looks like you went for a single pistol damage build to me.
Doesn't C4Cypher's 'Desperado' build revolve around Fin->Jug->SoB->SoB->SoB?

530
Requests For Features / Re: Suggestion: Slam-Firing
« on: November 10, 2010, 02:16 »
I mean, if Sergeants used combats instead of shotguns, no one would ever get past the first few floors.
I think we have our next challenge option.

531
Requests For Features / Monster delay on level one
« on: November 10, 2010, 01:37 »
Is there any way we can get a 4 second delay on the first floor?  It would only really affect a few challenges.  I'm getting tired of dieing before I can move twice in N! AoPc (damn sargents).

532
It was your avoidance of special levels, vile revives don't give exp unless it's the monster's first death (the Mortuary comes to mind).

edit: Why would anyone EVER skip chained court on M is beyond me, it's just free exp and ammo.

533
Only 2 questions:

1. Why can't I ever have luck like that?

2. Why didn't you clear the Mortuary?

534
As I said, In the hellgate and ONLY in the hellgate a homing phase kit will warp you to the square it spawns you at, normal phase kits work as normal. I think it's a glitch but it works wonders in a pinch. I'm editing that post now...

The Mortuary is not as scary as people make it out to be, it's just a very large vile pack and I had a reusable phase kit. Just take it slow and use all the standard tricks.

535
Mortuary should provide you with a power and bulk mod. You could've gotten away with two P1B1 pistols, just be sure to check the corners next time.

I got whizkid later so they just went on armor.

Except...they don't? (Frankly, I'm not even sure I know what you mean. Do they warp you back to the room you just came from, or any room you've been in, or the room you're already in?) Phase devices are random, as far as anyone can tell.
Sorry my mistake I've been up for the last 36 hours, I meant to say HOMING phase devices will warp you back to the square the red armor spawns on.

As far as the Mortuary mistake goes,  it was a screw up plain and simple.

536
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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.1) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Darkshadow, level 11 Cacodemon Sergeant Major, defeated the Cyberdemon
 on level 25 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 127103 turns and scored 108947 points.
 He played for 2 hours, 40 minutes and 4 seconds.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 721 out of 721 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
 He was an Angel of Marksmanship!


-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Hell Champion Medal
  Marksman Silver Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 50/50   Experience 57970/11
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Son of a gun     (Level 3)
    Dualgunner       (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 1)
    Gun Kata         (Level 1)

  SoG->SoG->DG->HR->HR->DM->MGK->SoG->Fin->Fin->WK->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified pistol (2d5) [6/6] (P1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   modified protective boots [2/2] (100%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   modified pistol (2d4) [8/8] (B1)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] modified red armor [4/4] (72%) (B)
    [b] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [c] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [d] gothic armor [6/6] (188%)
    [e] Angelic Armor [1/7] (18%)
    [f] 10mm ammo (x34)
    [g] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [h] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [i] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [j] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [k] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [l] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [m] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [n] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [o] 10mm ammo (x100)
    [p] envirosuit pack
    [q] thermonuclear bomb
    [r] Hell Staff

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    161 former humans
    94 former sergeants
    42 former captains
    108 imps
    65 demons
    73 lost souls
    53 cacodemons
    23 barons of hell
    1 Cyberdemon
    35 hell knights
    25 arachnotrons
    4 former commandos
    2 pain elementals
    14 arch-viles
    7 mancubi
    12 revenants
    2 bruiser brothers

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 6 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 10 he found Hell's Armory.
  On level 11 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 15 he encoutered the Phobos Hellgate.
  On level 17 he found the Hell Staff!
  On level 22 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  On level 22 he found the Angelic Armor!
  He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
  On level 23 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
 hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
 hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the Cyberdemon. Boom! The
 Cyberdemon hits you. Your Angelic Armor is damaged!
 You use a Hell Staff. You feel yanked in an non-existing direction!
 You dualreload your guns!
 You wear/wield : a red armor [4/4] (100%)
 You use a large med-pack. You feel fully healed.
 You dodge! You hear an explosion!
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The missile
 hits the Cyberdemon.
 Fire -- Choose target...   The missile hits the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon
 dies. You feel relatively safe now. Congratulations! You defeated

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 119 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 101 of those were killed.
 2 of those were killed by something unknown.
 5 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 7 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 4 souls claim to have killed him...
 1 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 3 killed the bastard and survived.

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No fancy equipment just a bulk pistol from the start and a power pistol from the arena and common armor till just about the end.
My only RNG supplied unique was the hell staff and my exotics weren't much better (I saw FOUR assault shotguns...)

I got DG in Hell's Arena just before the 2nd wave and MGK in the Halls of Carnage.

The hellgate is easy if you have a plan and remember HOMING phase kits ALWAYS warp you back to the room you entered.

Three of my hell levels were arachnotron caves.  I don't understand why arachnotron caves are so hated, I've always found them easy.

The Mortuary was an accident (curse berserk packs screen effect) and I thought I was screwed. I grabbed the armor and a supercharge and hellstaffed next to 2 of the viles on the left. I killed 1 and hurt the 2nd before I had to use my homing phase ending up on the right side.  From there I just walked left mopping up undead and another vile before I had to staff again this time to the left. I just pushed till I got back to the center barricade grabbed the 2nd supercharge and cleared the rest of the mess. It took 6 large med kits...

Archviles are hell, no two ways around it. Here is my level 24, 4 viles, many mixed formers and no less than 5 revenants. Every monster on the level was in that one room. I don't know how I did it with just pistols...

There is a chaingun (1d6)x4 [40/40] lying here.                               
 There is a chaingun (1d6)x4 [40/40] lying here.                               
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 Darkshadow                 Armor : modified red armor [3/6] (48%) (AP)         
 Health: 32%  Exp: 11/79%   Weapon: modified pistol (2d5) [6/6] (P1)           
 tired                                                       Phobos Hell  Lev9 

As a side note I changed pistols and former humans to green because I kept confusing them with shotguns and sargents. What's the entity ID for 10mm ammo?

537
0.9.9.1 / Re: [M|AoLT|95%|22|YASD] I hate my life.
« on: October 31, 2010, 23:00 »
I just got my Sargent Major less than 2 weeks ago, the 3 I silver badges got were Scavenger, Reaper, and Berserker in that order.  Scavenger just needs a rocket launcher, Reaper needs a homing phase or a BFG blast and dash, and Berserker is a stair run.

What 2 do you already have?

538
--------------------------------------------------------------
 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.1) roguelike post-mortem character dump
--------------------------------------------------------------

 Darkshadow, level 20 Cacodemon Sergeant Major, completed 100 levels of torture
 on level 100 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 311247 turns and scored 707778 points.
 He played for 7 hours, 4 minutes and 1 second.
 He didn't like it too rough.

 He killed 1826 out of 1826 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!
 He was an Angel of 100!


 He saved himself once.

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Medal of Prejudice
  UAC Star (bronze cluster)
  Veteran Bronze Badge
  Centurial Gold Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 89/80   Experience 454058/20
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +2  ToDmg Ranged +3  ToDmg Melee +6

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman          (Level 3)
    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 3)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Brute            (Level 1)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 2)
    Ammochain        (Level 1)

  SoB->SoB->Fin->Fin->WK->TH->MAc->TH->WK->SoB->Iro->Iro->Iro->HR->HR->DM->Jug->Rel->Rel->Bru->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   modified red armor [6/6] (188%) (ABP)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   modified plasma rifle (1d8)x6 [40/40] (A2P1T2)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   modified phaseshift boots [4/4] (100%) (T)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   modified missile launcher (6d8) [2/4] (P2T2)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [b] modified red armor [6/6] (164%) (ABP)
    [c] Malek's Armor [3/3] (86%)
    [d] rocket (x10)
    [e] rocket (x5)
    [f] large med-pack
    [g] large med-pack
    [h] large med-pack
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] large med-pack
    [l] large med-pack
    [m] phase device
    [n] phase device
    [o] phase device
    [p] homing phase device
    [q] envirosuit pack
    [r] envirosuit pack
    [s] thermonuclear bomb
    [t] thermonuclear bomb

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    72 former humans
    229 former sergeants
    213 former captains
    74 imps
    23 demons
    73 lost souls
    104 cacodemons
    262 barons of hell
    62 hell knights
    155 arachnotrons
    6 former commandos
    8 pain elementals
    151 arch-viles
    188 mancubi
    135 revenants
    12 nightmare imps
    19 nightmare cacodemons
    20 nightmare demons
    20 bruiser brothers

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  On level 19 he found the Revenant's Launcher!
  On level 40 he found the Malek's Armor!
  On level 49 he found the Cybernetic Armor!
  On level 61 he found the Jackhammer!
  On level 90 he found the Grammaton Cleric Beretta!
  On level 100 he finally completed 100 levels of torture.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 now. Boom!
 You open the door.
 There is a bulk mod pack lying here.
 There is a Small Health Globe lying here.
 You feel better.
 There is a Large Health Globe lying here.
 You feel like new!
 There is a Small Health Globe lying here.
 You feel better.
 There are stairs leading downward here.
 You already have plasma rifle in your hands. There are stairs leading
 downward here.
 You wear/wield : a modified red armor [6/6] (188%) (ABP) There are stairs
 leading downward here.
 You did it! You completed 100 levels of DoomRL! You're the champion! Press

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 87 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 75 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 4 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 5 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 2 souls claim to have killed him...
 1 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 1 killed the bastard and survived.

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No BFGs, malek's armor is by far the best unique I found the rest were useless to me.  I got nukes but ZERO inv globes after I got one at level 37 (how is that even possible?)

It was just a long trip, once you get MAc and learn how to handle vile packs. Seriously 3 viles with 3 mancubi and 2 bruiser brothers will just tear you apart if you don't break them up with a few rockets.  I went through 6 suits of ABP red armor due to mancubi hordes spamming in narrow halls.

I've learned to ALWAYS carry at least 1 envirosuit pack, the RNG gave me lots and lots of lava rooms blocking the stairs.

539
not so lucky, I needed that win for the badges and it didn't count...

I think you can, the hell staff just uses the phase device code, right?

540
I'm not sure if this should be in bug reports, please move it if need be.
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 DoomRL (v.0.9.9.1) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 Darkshadow, level 13 Cacodemon Sergeant Major, killed by a JC
 on level 26 of the Phobos base.
 He survived 169457 turns and scored 153456 points.
 He played for 3 hours and 22 seconds.
 He wasn't afraid to be hurt plenty.

 He killed 773 out of 823 hellspawn. (93%)
 He held his right to remain violent.


-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Hell Champion Medal
  Reaper Gold Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 0/80   Experience 72770/13
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +3  ToDmg Melee +3

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

    Ironman          (Level 3)
    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 3)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 2)
    Ammochain        (Level 1)

  SoB->SoB->TH->Fin->Fin->WK->MAc->TH->SoB->WK->Iro->Iro->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Cybernetic Armor [0/8] (0%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   nuclear BFG 9000 (8d8) [36/40]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   modified gothic boots [10/10] (198%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   modified laser rifle (1d9)x5 [40/40] (P2T3)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] modified missile launcher (6d6) [4/4] (A1T1)
    [b] BFG 9000 (10d8) [10/100]
    [c] modified red armor [4/4] (200%) (B)
    [d] modified red armor [3/6] (34%) (BP)
    [e] onyx armor [2]
    [f] Angelic Armor [3/7] (48%)
    [g] rocket (x14)
    [h] rocket (x14)
    [i] rocket (x14)
    [j] rocket (x5)
    [k] homing phase device
    [l] Hell Staff

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    99 former humans
    89 former sergeants
    40 former captains
    128 imps
    45 demons
    102 lost souls
    54 cacodemons
    69 barons of hell
    37 hell knights
    44 arachnotrons
    6 former commandos
    5 pain elementals
    17 arch-viles
    25 mancubi
    11 revenants
    2 bruiser brothers

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 6 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 9 he found Hell's Armory.
  On level 10 he witnessed the Wall.
  He massacred the evil behind the Wall!
  On level 13 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 15 he encoutered the Phobos Hellgate.
  He flooded the entire level 17 with lava!
  He flooded the entire level 19 with lava!
  On level 22 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  On level 22 he found the Angelic Armor!
  He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
  On level 23 he entered the Lava Pits.
  On level 23 he found the Cybernetic Armor!
  He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
  On level 24 he found the Hell Staff!
  Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
  He defeated the Cyberdemon and found the TRUE EVIL!
  On level 26 he finally was killed by a JC.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You need a full magazine to overcharge the nuclear BFG 9000.
 You use a Hell Staff. You feel yanked in an non-existing direction! JC
 raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!
 JC raises his hands and summons hellspawn!

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 Before him 84 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 73 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 3 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 5 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
 Is he immortal? 2 souls claim to have killed him...
 1 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 1 killed the bastard and survived.

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It was a standard ammochain run with some very odd luck

I intentionally used 2 lava level levers because I had envirsuit packs (can you say no to a free floor of exp?)

I had gotten an inv globe right next to the stairs for the Mortuary so I went down and BFG'd the left and laser rifled the rest for an easy clearing.

The odd bug is that I was able to fight JC without killing the Cyberdemon.  A random pull of the hell staff sent me to the stairs to 26.  I lost the fight and it gave me the death by sacrifice ending sequence but the game did not count it as a win.  Apparently for a game to count for badges and such the Cyberdemon must die...

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