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Discussion / So, anybody have good advice for Phobos Lab on UV+?
« on: May 15, 2013, 14:33 »
After a string of losses, I've recently started beating UV on a semi-regular basis(it would be more regular, but, well, I like trying out different builds even if some of them are gimmicky). Considering that, I decided that I might as well attempt to beat more special levels and the like (many of which I typically don't bother visiting unless it will actually benefit my build), but Phobos Lab just throws me for a loop.
Don't get me wrong, I can beat it, but not without one or more of these three things:
1) A build that achieves very fast movespeed by the Lab (either a build with early Hellrunner(2), or luck in getting some movespeed increasing armor or enough agility mods for both tactical boots and tactical armor, or both).
2) An early envirosuit so I can lead the nightmare demons around in the acid pool at the beginning of the level.
3) A willingness to waste a massive quantity of resources (envirosuits, large medpacks[typically including the ones I pick up], suits of armor, etcetera).
The main issue is those nightmare demons hiding in the corners near the beginning that you have to get ridiculously close to just to draw their attention since they idle otherwise. The real deal breaker though is just how bad the rewards are for a level that's as difficult as it is. Two random mods, some items that I probably have to use to get through it anyways, and a combat shotgun? If it weren't for the fact that I'm trying to beat more special levels than usual, I'd never bother visiting it at all.
So that being said, how do you deal with the little blue bastards? I can handle the ones after that beginning part; even the ambush feels pretty well-balanced since you can guide them around and through the acid while firing on them (no reason not to since the level itself has given you envirosuits by then), but the ones at the start are just agonizingly annoying. The best I could come up with (bar having envirosuits already on hand) is changing my tactics to running, leading them out, then rocket-jumping across the acid and firing on them as they cross it. Rinse and repeat with the small medkits you're given at the start.
It doesn't work nearly as well as I wish it would.
Don't get me wrong, I can beat it, but not without one or more of these three things:
1) A build that achieves very fast movespeed by the Lab (either a build with early Hellrunner(2), or luck in getting some movespeed increasing armor or enough agility mods for both tactical boots and tactical armor, or both).
2) An early envirosuit so I can lead the nightmare demons around in the acid pool at the beginning of the level.
3) A willingness to waste a massive quantity of resources (envirosuits, large medpacks[typically including the ones I pick up], suits of armor, etcetera).
The main issue is those nightmare demons hiding in the corners near the beginning that you have to get ridiculously close to just to draw their attention since they idle otherwise. The real deal breaker though is just how bad the rewards are for a level that's as difficult as it is. Two random mods, some items that I probably have to use to get through it anyways, and a combat shotgun? If it weren't for the fact that I'm trying to beat more special levels than usual, I'd never bother visiting it at all.
So that being said, how do you deal with the little blue bastards? I can handle the ones after that beginning part; even the ambush feels pretty well-balanced since you can guide them around and through the acid while firing on them (no reason not to since the level itself has given you envirosuits by then), but the ones at the start are just agonizingly annoying. The best I could come up with (bar having envirosuits already on hand) is changing my tactics to running, leading them out, then rocket-jumping across the acid and firing on them as they cross it. Rinse and repeat with the small medkits you're given at the start.
It doesn't work nearly as well as I wish it would.
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0.9.9.4 / [M|88%|YAFW] I love this resistance system.
« on: September 04, 2011, 21:13 »--------------------------------------------------------------
DoomRL (v.0.9.9.4) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Cheshire-kun, level 11 Imp Sergeant Technician,
nuked the Cyberdemon. on level 26 of the Phobos base.
He survived 179526 turns and scored 116983 points.
He played for 2 hours, 59 minutes and 34 seconds.
He didn't like it too rough.
He killed 518 out of 586 hellspawn. (88%)
He saved himself 2 times.
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 9
Levels visited : 8
Levels completed : 3
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
UAC Star (bronze cluster)
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 35/60 Experience 53250/11
ToHit Ranged +4 ToHit Melee +4 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +0
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Class : Technician
Ironman (Level 1)
Tough as nails (Level 2)
Eagle Eye (Level 2)
Intuition (Level 2)
Whizkid (Level 2)
Badass (Level 1)
Scavenger (Level 1)
EE->EE->Int->Int->WK->WK->MSc->TaN->TaN->Bad->Iro->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] modified cerberus gothic armor [2/2] (94%) (P)
[b] [ Weapon ] tactical rocket launcher (6d6) [1/5]
[c] [ Boots ] plasteel boots [2/2] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] nothing
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] modified hyperblaster (2d5)x3 [0/40] (P1)
[b] modified BFG 9000 (10d8) [26/169] (B2)
[c] Acid Spitter (10d10) [0/10] {a}
[d] red armor [4/4] (100%)
[e] rocket (x10)
[f] large med-pack
[g] large med-pack
[h] large med-pack
[i] large med-pack
[j] large med-pack
[k] large med-pack
[l] homing phase device
[m] envirosuit pack
[n] envirosuit pack
[o] hatred skull
-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------
Bullet - internal 0% torso 50% feet 0%
Melee - internal 0% torso 50% feet 0%
Shrapnel - internal 0% torso 50% feet 0%
Acid - internal 0% torso 70% feet 50%
Fire - internal 0% torso 70% feet 25%
Plasma - internal 0% torso 50% feet 0%
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
76 former humans
44 former sergeants
19 former captains
70 imps
54 demons
125 lost souls
24 cacodemons
12 barons of hell
1 Cyberdemon
28 hell knights
31 arachnotrons
1 John Carmack
2 former commandos
5 pain elementals
6 arch-viles
8 mancubi
9 revenants
2 bruiser brothers
1 lava elemental
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 3 he entered Hell's Arena.
He cowardly fled the Arena.
On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory.
He fled being chased by a nightmare!
On level 11 he assembled a ballistic armor!
On level 11 he assembled a tactical rocket launcher!
On level 13 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
On level 14 he assembled a hyperblaster!
On level 15 he encountered the Phobos Hellgate.
On level 16 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
On level 17 he stumbled into complex full of hell knights!
On level 19 he ventured into the Spider's Lair.
He cleared the Lair, kickin' serious spider ass!
On level 20 he assembled a cerberus armor!
On level 21 he entered the Vaults.
On level 21 he found the Acid Spitter!
He managed to scavenge a part of the Vaults treasures.
On level 23 he entered the Lava Pits.
He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
He overloaded a nuclear plasma rifle on level 25!
He defeated the Cyberdemon and found the TRUE EVIL!
Then finally in hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
hits you. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. You dodge! The
missile hits the lost soul. The lost soul dies. The lost soul dies.
The lost soul dies. The lost soul dies. The lost soul hits you. The lost
soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you.
Fire -- Choose target...
You see : John Carmack (almost dead) [m]ore | acid
The missile hits the lost soul. The lost soul dies. The lost soul dies. The
lost soul hits you. John Carmack reloads his rocket launcher. The
lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you. The
lost soul hits you. The lost soul hits you.
Fire -- Choose target...
You see : John Carmack (almost dead) [m]ore | acid
The missile hits John Carmack. The lost soul dies. You hear the scream of a
freed soul! The lost soul dies. The lost soul dies. John Carmack
dies. Congratulations! You defeated John Carmack! Press <Enter>... The lost
soul dies. The lost soul dies.
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
8 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
4 of those were killed.
4 souls destroyed the Cyberdemon...
4 killed the bastard and survived.
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Nothing too interesting about most of this run; I spent the majority of it flailing about after getting Scavenger and hoping I would find something exotic or unique to disassemble--I didn't(minus the Acid Spitter, but I decided to tote it around for the heck of it end-game).
The main thing I have to note here is that Cerberus Gothic Armor is a hilariously entertaining assembly with those resists and abruptly dropped the difficulty by quite a bit. I only wish I had found Gothic Boots and taken Entrenchment instead of Scavenger.
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0.9.9.3 / [E|86%|YAVP] Malicious Knives: WTB Power Mod
« on: June 10, 2011, 22:24 »--------------------------------------------------------------
DoomRL (v.0.9.9.3) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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Kristopher, level 9 Hell Knight Sergeant, defeated the Cyberdemon
on level 25 of the Phobos base.
He survived 65477 turns and scored 39792 points.
He played for 48 minutes and 49 seconds.
He was too young to die!
He killed 358 out of 414 hellspawn. (86%)
-- Special levels --------------------------------------------
Levels generated : 6
Levels visited : 3
Levels completed : 1
-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------
Malicious Knives Cross
Strongman Bronze Badge
Strongman Silver Badge
-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------
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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------
Health 94/50 Experience 33891/9
ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +6 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +9
-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------
Finesse (Level 1)
Hellrunner (Level 2)
Brute (Level 3)
Berserker (Level 1)
Dodgemaster (Level 1)
Blademaster (Level 1)
Bru->Bru->Ber->Bru->HR->HR->MBm->DM->Fin->
-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------
[a] [ Armor ] Malek's Armor [3/3] (100%)
[b] [ Weapon ] modified combat knife (2d5) (T)
[c] [ Boots ] tactical boots [1/1] (100%)
[d] [ Prepared ] combat knife (2d5)
-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------
[a] tactical armor [1/1] (100%)
[b] modified blue armor [2/2] (200%) (B)
[c] modified blue armor [2/2] (119%) (B)
[d] red armor [4/4] (100%)
[e] phaseshift armor [2/2] (100%)
[f] large med-pack
[g] large med-pack
[h] homing phase device
[i] technical mod pack
[j] bulk mod pack
[k] bulk mod pack
[l] fire skull
[m] hatred skull
[n] lava element
[o] grappling plasteel boots [5/5] (100%)
-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------
48 former humans
37 former sergeants
13 former captains
46 imps
57 demons
120 lost souls
4 cacodemons
5 barons of hell
1 Cyberdemon
3 arachnotrons
3 former commandos
4 pain elementals
6 arch-viles
3 mancubi
5 revenants
2 bruiser brothers
1 lava elemental
-- History ---------------------------------------------------
He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
On level 8 he assembled a tactical boots!
On level 12 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
On level 15 he encountered the Phobos Hellgate.
On level 21 he assembled a grappling boots!
Level 22 blasted him with unholy atmosphere!
On level 22 he assembled a tactical armor!
On level 23 he entered the Lava Pits.
On level 23 he found the Malek's Armor!
He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
Then at last he found Phobos Arena!
On level 25 he finally defeated the Cyberdemon.
-- Messages --------------------------------------------------
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You need to taste blood!
You hit the Cyberdemon. You need to taste blood!
You hit the Cyberdemon. You need to taste blood!
You hit the Cyberdemon. You need to taste blood!
You hit the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon hits you. You need to taste blood!
You hit the Cyberdemon. You need to taste blood!
You hit the Cyberdemon. You need to taste blood!
You hit the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon hits you. You need to taste blood!
You hit the Cyberdemon. You're going berserk! You need to taste blood!
You hit the Cyberdemon. The Cyberdemon dies. You feel relatively safe
now. Congratulations! You defeated the Cyberdemon! Press <Enter>... Next!
-- General ---------------------------------------------------
Before him 183 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
171 of those were killed.
1 of those was killed by something unknown.
1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
And 8 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.
Some rumours though, say that the Cyberdemon was killed already!
Is he immortal? 2 souls claim to have killed him...
2 killed the bastard and survived.
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So, after several tries (I believe around 4-5), I finally got a little lucky and this happened...well, I suppose it depends on your definition of luck, because I am still amazed that I went the entire game without finding a power mod to make a chainsword. I found a bulk mod in a vault extremely early game and carried it around on me *just* for that. Oh well, tearing through Hell with a combat knife has had to be one of the most entertaining experiences I've had in this game anyways!
Edit: Out of curiosity, does anybody know if the Butcher's Cleaver counts for Malicious Knives? I plan on trying this again on other difficulties, and it would be nice to know in advance.
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