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DoomRL => Discussion => Topic started by: wisnoskij on April 20, 2012, 09:24

Title: Usless Levers
Post by: wisnoskij on April 20, 2012, 09:24

Is it just me or are the levers pretty lame?
In doom levers were dangerous, as they often released monsters, but also normally gave you loot.
In DoomRL they are just lame and for the most part damaging.

Title: Re: Usless Levers
Post by: Pricklyman on April 20, 2012, 11:04

"Meditech Depot - you are healed!"
"Armour Repair station"
"The smell of a massacre..."

The risk is the gamble, levers are random, pray to RNG before you pull one, hope for medical supplies...or everything around you dying horribly with a single swift key stroke...oh yes it's fun.

Or you could just flood the whole level with lava for fun...just saying. :P

(On a serious note, most of the MOST dangerous levers announce themselves through level feelings, just remember (like I don't) to read the level feelings and you should be fine for the most part.)

Title: Re: Usless Levers
Post by: skarczew on April 21, 2012, 04:33

Or take Intuition traits.

Title: Re: Usless Levers
Post by: Dreadlord on April 21, 2012, 06:27

By the way, isn't gambling a part of any decent roguelike run? ^^

Title: Re: Usless Levers
Post by: Klear on April 21, 2012, 06:57

I was about to post this in the screenshot thread but it fits this thread perfectly:

Title: Re: Usless Levers
Post by: shark20061 on April 21, 2012, 11:43

ALL of the level affecting levers (except barrel blowing, which always affects the entire level) announce themselves through a level feeling.  You can use that to determine whether pulling one would be a good idea.

If one of those level feelings occur and you only find 1 lever on the entire level, it's pretty definitive what it'll do.

Other than that, it's guess work, but the odds are slightly in your favor in terms of good effect versus bad effect.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

There's a 8 out of 17 chance the lever will do something good. (Heal you, repair armor, flood with water, or kill enemies)
There's a 2 out of 17 chance the lever will do something that could good but could be bad. (Blow all the barrels in the level)
There's a 7 out of 17 chance the lever will do something bad. (Flood acid, flood lava, summon enemies, or destroy the walls)

Title: Re: Usless Levers
Post by: Klear on April 21, 2012, 11:57

Quote from: shark20061 on April 21, 2012, 11:43

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

There's a 8 out of 17 chance the lever will do something good. (Heal you, repair armor, flood with water, or kill enemies)
There's a 2 out of 17 chance the lever will do something that could good but could be bad. (Blow all the barrels in the level)
There's a 7 out of 17 chance the lever will do something bad. (Flood acid, flood lava, summon enemies, or destroy the walls)

Always move all barrels out of the way when pulling levers. That pushes that one into neutral/good territory. Summoned enemies can be usually dealt with before they can react and destroying the walls isn't dangerous if you pull the lever after killing everything on the floor, so the only thing you should beware are the levers that flood with acid/lava. Make sure you put on your best boots and start running when preparing to pull a lever =)