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DoomRL => Bug Reports => Topic started by: ZZ on May 29, 2011, 04:45

Title: [0.9.9.3] Arachnotron not able to destroy a barrel
Post by: ZZ on May 29, 2011, 04:45

BB Screenshot created.                                                         
 The arachnotron fires! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! You dodge! Boom!               
             #################                                                 
            ................0..                                                 
            ....................                                               
           ..........0....0....|.                                               
           ..............==.......                                             
           ....#####.....|}==.....                                             
                   #...@...==.0....                                             
               #=.=+.....==.....#                                               
               #...=....^.......#                                               
               #...==|.........+#                                               
               #...#.}..#######.#                                               
               #...#.|.0#                                                       
               #.. #...A+                                                       
                .. #....=                                                       
                   #....=                                                       
                   ....=#                                                       
                   .....#                                                       
                     ...                                                       
                                                                               
                                                                               
 57                         Armor : Angelic Armor [7/7] (99%)                   
 Health: 186% Exp: 10/73%   Weapon: modified pistol (2d5) [8/8] (B1P1T1)       
 cautious                                                    Phobos Hell  Lev8 

As you see, that poor demon hit the barrel 5 times and still it is standing. Not to mention that I was terrorizing him for like 7 volleys, and still the barrel is standing there. Also, that message "You dodge" bugs me too.
To differentiate it from the other bug of this kind (http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php/topic,4306.0.html), here is the explosion, caused by my own shot

You see : an arachnotron (unhurt) [m]ore | floor                               
 The barrel explodes! Boom!                                                     
             #################                                                 
            ................0..                                                 
            ....................                                               
           ..........0....0....|.                                               
           ..............==.......                                             
           ....#####.....|}==.....                                             
                   #...@...==.0....                                             
               #=.=+.....==.....#                                               
               #...=....^.......#                                               
               #...==|===......+#                                               
               #...#.===#######.#                                               
               #...#.====                                                       
               #.. #.====                                                       
                .. #..===                                                       
                   #....=                                                       
                   ....=#                                                       
                   .....#                                                       
                     ...                                                       
                                                                               
                                                                               
 57                         Armor : Angelic Armor [7/7] (99%)                   
 Health: 184% Exp: 10/73%   Weapon: modified pistol (2d5) [6/8] (B1P1T1)       
 cautious                                                    Phobos Hell  Lev8 

Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Arachnotron not able to destroy a barrel
Post by: tehtmi on May 29, 2011, 07:39
Oddly enough, I don't think this is a bug.  Arachnotrons only do 1d5 damage per shot and napalm barrels have 5 armor.  Cell (tile) armor can reduce all damage to zero and isn't affected by damage type, so... there you go.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Arachnotron not able to destroy a barrel
Post by: Ander Hammer on May 29, 2011, 22:05
And plasma is only half-affected by armor, so that arachnotron probably should have amassed enough hits on the barrel in seven volleys to blow it, but probability still applies.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Arachnotron not able to destroy a barrel
Post by: ZZ on May 30, 2011, 02:48
Anyway, I consider this a bug for logical reasons - plasma is a spray of overheated particles, which can easily set napalm on fire. On the other hand, even T1P1B1 modded pistol bullet is just a couple of lead, which has less chances to set napalm on fire.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Arachnotron not able to destroy a barrel
Post by: Deathwind on May 30, 2011, 23:46
keep in mind that the napalm in enclosed in a metal safety barrel and THAT is what you need to puncture. An arachnotron's shot is just energy therefore it had no physical mass to assist it, where as a pistol's bullet has the mass and the energy to back it up.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Arachnotron not able to destroy a barrel
Post by: BirdoPrey on May 30, 2011, 23:50
this lack of realism is affecting my ability to enjoy this game about killing demons on mars
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Arachnotron not able to destroy a barrel
Post by: thelaptop on May 31, 2011, 00:13
this lack of realism is affecting my ability to enjoy this game about killing demons on mars
The hell...?

O.o
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Arachnotron not able to destroy a barrel
Post by: Ander Hammer on May 31, 2011, 00:27
this lack of realism is affecting my ability to enjoy this game about killing demons on mars

loooool.

That's what I've always loved about Doom. The plot is just "DEMONS HAVE INVADED MARS KILL THEM".
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Arachnotron not able to destroy a barrel
Post by: Deathwind on May 31, 2011, 01:13
All of this after I give a somewhat logical reason?