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DoomRL => Discussion => Topic started by: DooMBringer on March 12, 2012, 15:03

Title: Do we need death counter?
Post by: DooMBringer on March 12, 2012, 15:03

Well do we need this statistic at all? It is a bit discouraging/frustrating to see how many times a character died. This is also one of the statistics that does not have any real impact on ranks and achievements, so it is not really needed. I know this would be a bit radical change, but it would decrease urge to “savescum” or chat. Just my 2 cents.

Title: Re: Do we need death counter?
Post by: Uranium on March 12, 2012, 15:08

In my opinion, a death counter provides the opposite: a sense of achievement, the knowledge that my current Doomguy had achieved something that so many before him had died in the attempt of.
It's really just a way of splitting up the overall marine count into deaths/suicides/self-nukes/wins and full-wins.
It's not needed as such, but the mortems just wouldn't be the same without it.

Title: Re: Do we need death counter?
Post by: Klear on March 12, 2012, 15:12

Yeah... besides, it's nice to know how many games you've played so far.

Title: Re: Do we need death counter?
Post by: Ander Hammer on March 12, 2012, 21:23

I see no need to remove the death listings.

I don't see how it encourages cheating/scumming.

I do see how it can increase morale - 'yes, I finally have one under the 'win' category!' or 'all right, now I'm 10/130 instead of 5/100! I am getting better!'.

Title: Re: Do we need death counter?
Post by: Pricklyman on March 13, 2012, 03:00

I gotta admit, it is disheartening when I look at my 56 deaths for 1 win, and other people just like, "Oh, I won for the first time ever!" After 12 lives.

However it still makes that one win even more special...  :D

Title: Re: Do we need death counter?
Post by: Klear on March 13, 2012, 03:03

You can view it the other way around - if you have too good win/death ratio, it means you are ready to start playing on a higher difficulty, so people with better death/win ratios probably don't live up to their true potential. Unless they are already plaing on nightmare, of course.

Title: Re: Do we need death counter?
Post by: PFL on March 13, 2012, 05:33

The more stats, the better as far as I'm concerned.  The obit is your last character's entire 'life' and I enjoy looking back and seeing where I went wrong and where I excelled.  Gimme more numbers!