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DoomRL => Requests For Features => Topic started by: Nameless on March 16, 2011, 16:04

Title: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: Nameless on March 16, 2011, 16:04
... should immediately explode them. Why?

a) It would be hilarious.
b) It makes sense.
c) It would give AoRA players an extra tactical advantage in that they could actually use the nukes they found.
Title: Re: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: Gargulec on March 16, 2011, 16:27
While I support this idea... explain me, why does it make sense? RL nuke would not explode if immersed in lava, you know.
Title: Re: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: thelaptop on March 16, 2011, 17:03
At the very most, it will just cause a standard explosion distributing the bomb fuel.  Nukes explode only because some critical number of nuclear reactions have reached, and most designs usually make sure that this isn't the case until the nuke is actually deployed.
Title: Re: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: yaflhdztioxo on March 16, 2011, 17:19
Activating thermies on lava does explode them immediately... though I agree with Lappie on this one
Title: Re: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: Nameless on March 17, 2011, 06:22
Okay, so maybe it doesn't make realistic sense and I don't know the first thing about nuclear weaponry. However! Explosive + heat = BOOM is solid video game logic and I stand by my faint feeling of disappointment after (sort of) accidentally dropping one in lava and having nothing bad happen.
Title: Re: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: ParaSait on March 17, 2011, 06:42
While I support this idea... explain me, why does it make sense?
a) It would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: Gargulec on March 17, 2011, 06:52


I was not questioning that, I was only questioning point b), out of sheer curiosity.
Title: Re: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: ZZ on March 17, 2011, 11:13
At the very most, it will just cause a standard explosion distributing the bomb fuel.  Nukes explode only because some critical number of nuclear reactions have reached, and most designs usually make sure that this isn't the case until the nuke is actually deployed.
Oh please, don't you think that if real nuclear bomb would explode, only one level of the base would explode? After the explosion of the real nuclear bomb, a small city gets obliterated at least. So I totally agree with this suggestion, but we can't discuss is this logical or not because in real life there aren't any weapons that act like the thermie from DoomRL. 
Title: Re: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: grommile on March 17, 2011, 12:42
It's conceivable that a large, compartmentalized structure with suitable reinforcement and blowout arrangements might survive the internal detonation of an SADM (Special Atomic Demolition Munition - a man-portable nuclear warhead developed by the USA during the Cold War for demolition and area denial purposes in the event of things going "hot"). I can't see anyone - even the doomguy - lugging anything much bigger than an SADM around under fire.
Title: Re: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: Ander Hammer on March 17, 2011, 14:50
It's conceivable that a large, compartmentalized structure with suitable reinforcement and blowout arrangements might survive the internal detonation of an SADM (Special Atomic Demolition Munition

Not to mention the vast majority of a level doesn't survive one.

But yeah. Nukes aren't simple bags of explodium, and while it'd be funny if dropping them on lava blew them up, it just saves ten seconds, and how often would it come up besides people trying it on a whim and being slightly disappointed and glad their run wasn't cut short?
Title: Re: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: yaflhdztioxo on March 17, 2011, 16:57
I've always hoped for the opposite--that destroying a nuke cell would disable the counter.  That might give silly AoI players a window of hope...
Title: Re: Melting thermonuclear bombs in lava ...
Post by: Shoop da Whoop on March 18, 2011, 07:36
Lava barrel at the nuke. Think about it.