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Title: [0.9.9.3] Teleport leading into a locked vault
Post by: yupsi on August 09, 2011, 12:59
I've read about spawns in locked vaults being fixed, but don't know if teleporters are accounted for, and I've just encountered this today for the first time.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Teleport leading into a locked vault
Post by: Silhar on August 09, 2011, 17:21
There's a rocket launcher you can get out with!
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Teleport leading into a locked vault
Post by: Gargulec on August 09, 2011, 17:39
Quote from: Silhar on August 09, 2011, 17:21
There's a rocket launcher you can get out with!

Those walls are unbreakable.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Teleport leading into a locked vault
Post by: Deathwind on August 09, 2011, 18:51
It's the risk you take useing a phase kit or teleporter on a level with a locked vault...
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Teleport leading into a locked vault
Post by: Ander Hammer on August 10, 2011, 06:42
Quote from: Deathwind on August 09, 2011, 18:51
It's the risk you take useing a phase kit or teleporter on a level with a locked vault...

It's a risk that shouldn't exist.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Teleport leading into a locked vault
Post by: Gargulec on August 10, 2011, 07:18
Quote from: Ander Hammer on August 10, 2011, 06:42
It's a risk that shouldn't exist.

This game is a roguelike, remember. It is supposed to be unfair.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Teleport leading into a locked vault
Post by: ParaSait on August 10, 2011, 08:58
Quote from: Gargulec on August 10, 2011, 07:18
This game is a roguelike, remember. It is supposed to be unfair.
Probably, but that'd make teleporting like even more stupid.
Each time I find a teleporter or non-homing phase device I'm like "Oh handy! I was just needing something to wipe my butt with!". So at least we could try making it more useful rather than pointless or even risky.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Teleport leading into a locked vault
Post by: The Page on August 10, 2011, 10:49
You're exaggerating the problem, though. As it is now, phase devices are pretty handy for quick getaways, while locked vaults aren't exactly as common as them. The whole locked vault problem doesn't make them toilet paper; it's more akin to lighting a match in an area with a slight fire hazard.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Teleport leading into a locked vault
Post by: tehtmi on August 10, 2011, 19:47
Phase devices will never put you into a locked vault.

As the OP found, teleports can, but this behavior seems unintended. I'll create a ticket.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Teleport leading into a locked vault
Post by: ParaSait on August 10, 2011, 20:34
Quote from: The Page on August 10, 2011, 10:49
You're exaggerating the problem, though. As it is now, phase devices are pretty handy for quick getaways, while locked vaults aren't exactly as common as them. The whole locked vault problem doesn't make them toilet paper; it's more akin to lighting a match in an area with a slight fire hazard.
I dunno man. I'd still rather pick up a small medpack than a phase device. Maybe it's just my luck, but phase devices ALWAYS seem to get me even deeper into shit.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.3] Teleport leading into a locked vault
Post by: Game Hunter on August 10, 2011, 20:51
Perhaps the simple solution would be to allow a way to get out of a locked vault if you manage to get in prematurely? Maybe the walls can just be opened from the inside, or there's a twin lever that disappears with the one outside the vault.

But yes, I agree that the game should never put you in a situation that makes the game unwinnable and forces you to quit.