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DoomRL => Bug Reports => Topic started by: Brewtal Legend on September 01, 2011, 23:34

Title: [0.9.9.4 winxp] scout doesn't see stairs on angel of red alert
Post by: Brewtal Legend on September 01, 2011, 23:34
Not sure if it is intended but I recently played a couple of games as the scout class on angel of red alert challenge and I never know where the stairs are like I would playing any other game as a scout.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.4 winxp] scout doesn't see stairs on angel of red alert
Post by: Thexare on September 02, 2011, 00:20
Working as intended. Also true of Angel of Pacifism, I believe.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.4 winxp] scout doesn't see stairs on angel of red alert
Post by: Kornel Kisielewicz on September 02, 2011, 01:46
Intended - would make AoRA too easy.

It's even hinted in the challenge description - "Warning, the areas can't be scouted!".
Title: Re: [0.9.9.4 winxp] scout doesn't see stairs on angel of red alert
Post by: GrimmC on September 09, 2011, 12:02
However, the Scout also can't hack tracing data into computer maps on AoRA, either. Is this also intended? It's not really implied by the description. Seems like it just had all its special abilities taken away or something.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.4 winxp] scout doesn't see stairs on angel of red alert
Post by: Aoi on September 09, 2011, 12:25
Aren't Techs the one who have the ability to hack tracking data?
Title: Re: [0.9.9.4 winxp] scout doesn't see stairs on angel of red alert
Post by: ParaSait on September 09, 2011, 12:27
That on the other hand would be a bug then I guess.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.4 winxp] scout doesn't see stairs on angel of red alert
Post by: Thexare on September 09, 2011, 12:32
However, the Scout also can't hack tracing data into computer maps on AoRA, either. Is this also intended?
Scouts don't do that in any mode, that's Technicians.


EDIT: There is one apparent bug related to this, however - Computer Maps don't show the stairs, at least on Angel of Darkness. Not sure if intended.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.4 winxp] scout doesn't see stairs on angel of red alert
Post by: gilgatex on September 09, 2011, 14:09
EDIT: There is one apparent bug related to this, however - Computer Maps don't show the stairs, at least on Angel of Darkness. Not sure if intended.

I've found this to be the case in Angel of Darkness, Angel of Pacifism, as well as Angel of Red Alert.  The stairs will never show unless you're looking right at them, no matter what.
Title: Re: [0.9.9.4 winxp] scout doesn't see stairs on angel of red alert
Post by: tehtmi on September 10, 2011, 12:11
The scout's stair sense is not intended to work on Red Alert, Darkness, and Pacifism.  You can still see the stairs as would any other class after exploring them normally.

Computer maps don't show any map tiles on Angel of Darkness including stairs. This is intended. They still show items, so they aren't completely useless.

Hacking maps for tracking data is indeed a feature of technicians, not scouts. If there is a problem with this feature, please bring it up in its own thread.