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Title: [U|AoSg|YAAM] Way too much luck this game
Post by: ZicherCZ on January 30, 2012, 10:48: -------------------------------------------------------------- DoomRL (v.0.9.9.5) roguelike post-mortem character dump -------------------------------------------------------------- Sandy Peterson, level 14 Hell Knight Captain Marine, defeated the Mastermind on level 8 of Hell. He survived 94236 turns and scored 288443 points. He played for 1 hour, 46 minutes and 19 seconds. He was a man of Ultra-Violence! He killed 1324 out of 1324 hellspawn. (100%) This ass-kicking marine killed all of them! He was an Angel of Shotgunnery! -- Special levels -------------------------------------------- Levels generated : 11 Levels visited : 5 Levels completed : 5 -- Awards ---------------------------------------------------- Medal of Prejudice UAC Star (gold cluster) Hell Champion Medal Hell Armorer Badge Shottyman Gold Badge -- Graveyard ------------------------------------------------- ########################################################### ####................................#####################># ###...............####...............###################### ##.......####.....####.....####.......##################### #........####.....####.....####........#################### .........####.....####.....####.........################### .........####..............####..........################## ..........................................################# ..####............................####....################# .&####............................####....################# ..####............................####&...################# ..####............................####....################# ..............................%...........################# .........####..............####X.........################## .........####.....####.....####.........################### #........####.....####.....####........#################### ##.......####.....####.....####.......##################### ###...............####...............###################### ####................................#####################># ########################################################### -- Statistics ------------------------------------------------ Health 18/90 Experience 87987/14 ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +4 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +6 -- Traits ---------------------------------------------------- Class : Marine Ironman (Level 3) Tough as nails (Level 3) Reloader (Level 2) Brute (Level 2) Berserker (Level 1) Badass (Level 1) Shottyman (Level 1) Army of the Dead (Level 1) Rel->Rel->SM->Bad->Bru->MAD->Bru->Ber->TaN->TaN->Iro->TaN->Iro->Iro-> -- Equipment ------------------------------------------------- [a] [ Armor ] Malek's Armor [1/3] (1%) [b] [ Weapon ] elephant gun (12d3) [0/1] [c] [ Boots ] nothing [d] [ Prepared ] double shotgun (9d3)x2 [2/2] -- Inventory ------------------------------------------------- [a] combat shotgun (7d3) [5/5] (T1) [b] shotgun shell (x50) [c] shotgun shell (x50) [d] shotgun shell (x50) [e] phase device [f] homing phase device [g] envirosuit pack [h] thermonuclear bomb [i] power mod pack [j] power mod pack [k] technical mod pack [l] agility mod pack [m] agility mod pack [n] hatred skull [o] lava element [p] shell box (x100) [q] shell box (x100) [r] shell box (x100) -- Resistances ----------------------------------------------- Acid - internal 0% torso 30% feet 0% Fire - internal 0% torso 30% feet 0% Plasma - internal 0% torso 30% feet 0% -- Kills ----------------------------------------------------- 64 former humans 79 former sergeants 77 former captains 108 imps 95 demons 637 lost souls 42 cacodemons 35 hell knights 39 barons of hell 29 arachnotrons 9 former commandos 50 pain elementals 29 revenants 10 mancubi 14 arch-viles 2 bruiser brothers 1 shambler 1 lava elemental 1 agony elemental 1 Cyberdemon 1 Spider Mastermind -- History --------------------------------------------------- He started his journey on the surface of Phobos. On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena. He left the Arena as a champion! On level 5 he found the Malek's Armor! On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly. On level 10 he entered Hell's Armory. On level 10 he found the Anti-Freak Jackal! He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards! On level 11 he assembled a elephant gun! On level 11 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage. On level 13 he found the City of Skulls. He wiped out the City of Skulls. On level 15 he assembled a gatling gun! On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel! He nuked level 16! On level 17 he stumbled into complex full of revenants! On level 22 he entered the Lava Pits. He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely! Level 23 blasted him with unholy atmosphere! Then at last he found Dis! On level 24 he finally defeated the Mastermind. -- Messages -------------------------------------------------- Mastermind hits you. Fire -- Choose target... You see : a Spider Mastermind (mortally wounded) [m]ore | pool of blood The Spider Mastermind hits you. Your Malek's Armor is damaged! You reload the elephant gun. The Spider Mastermind hits you. Your Malek's Armor is damaged! The Spider Mastermind hits you. Fire -- Choose target... You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) [m]ore | pool of blood The Spider Mastermind hits you. Your Malek's Armor is damaged! The Spider Mastermind hits you. You reload the elephant gun. The Spider Mastermind hits you. Your Malek's Armor is damaged! The Spider Mastermind hits you. Fire -- Choose target... You see : a Spider Mastermind (almost dead) [m]ore | pool of blood The Spider Mastermind dies. You feel relatively safe now. Congratulations! You defeated the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>... -- General --------------------------------------------------- 119 brave souls have ventured into Phobos: 103 of those were killed. 1 of those was killed by something unknown. 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual. And 3 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide. 11 souls destroyed the Mastermind... 10 killed the bitch and survived. 1 showed that it can outsmart hell itself. --------------------------------------------------------------
This game just all about luck.
Level 2 gifted me with a large demon-filled tension room. This meant not only a red armor, but enough experience for Shottyman. This made Arena a breeze.
Malek's Armor on level 5 then was an outright godsend. I never ever took that sweet thing off afterwards. It's stats, resists and regeneration are just way too awesome and I think that this is the best armor in the game (I have to find, let alone put on Berserker armor, though.
I haven't found a combat shotgun, but again - lucky. Two power mods in the Armory gave me an elephant gun and this baby can hit _hard_. It was my weapon of choice for the rest of the game.
Later, I tended to find invulnerabilities just when I needed them. _Two_ for nuking Cybie _and_ a revenant floor right afterwards, another for a level which started with _five_ Arch-Viles in the first third of the map, another picked just before an arach cave when I started surrounded by six of them.
The unholy atmosphere on 23 was quite a fix. I was going for 100% kills (as always ;) ), so I had to endure there for pretty long. In the end, I was left with last large medpack, so I went for broke to Dis.
Luckily, Mastermind never got a shot at me.
I just let her come to the melee range, and fired away. Ended up with Malek's Armor torn to pieces and 20% health, but also with her lying at my feet.

In fact, I'm a bit concerned about all this luck. I don't even have a standard HMP win yet, but two challenges down on UV, and, well, both would not make it through if not for an epic amount of sheer luck. This does not make me feel like having a reliable playstyle at all ...

But I will figure it out ... someday.

And PS: 1324 hellspawn killed is my new personal best so far ;).
Title: Re: [U|AoSg|YAAM] Way too much luck this game
Post by: Klear on January 30, 2012, 12:33: Congratulations!

I've tried AoSg on UV sever times, but I always ran out of shells in or just before Hell's Armory... maybe I radar-shoot too much? Also, I see you invested in brute, is it worth it for a non-melee build just for the berserker, or did you punch stuff from time to time? I'd go for TaN first.
Title: Re: [U|AoSg|YAAM] Way too much luck this game
Post by: ZicherCZ on January 30, 2012, 12:47: Going for Berserker was certainly worth it. Until I went too much for TaN and Iro, Arch-Viles' attack triggered berserk regularly and consistenly (Cybie's rockets would do the same, IIRC), making them much easier to handle. Add Malek's to the berserk effect - and you're at 90% fire/acid/plasma resists. In this state, literally everything could only hit me for 1 HP.
(On the other hand, Malek's 30% fire resist could have been the reason why berserk could have been the reason why berserk stopped triggering a bit too early.)

And about radarshooting too much, you may well be correct. I'm more of a reckless player, I could say, but when I get something into my line of sight (with chances of taking a hit before), I knock it back and then try to lure it into a corner-shooting position. It works way more often than not, and it can save you a boatload of ammo in the long run.

But then again, having way over 300 shells by the victory could have just been another example of all the luck I had throughout this game :).
Title: Re: [U|AoSg|YAAM] Way too much luck this game
Post by: Klear on January 30, 2012, 12:53: I'll try it again and try to be more conservative with ammo. To think that on my first try, I felt foolish for unloading every single shell from dropped shotguns... after the first try, I went through every cleared level searching for loaded shotguns, making sure I didn't miss a single one.

Maybe I was overzealous with the double shotgun though.

And thanks for the berserk tip!
Title: Re: [U|AoSg|YAAM] Way too much luck this game
Post by: ZicherCZ on January 30, 2012, 13:08: Quote from: Klear on January 30, 2012, 12:53
Maybe I was overzealous with the double shotgun though.
This. This is probably the cause. The damage dropdown for double shotgun is so high that sometimes, on a bad damage roll, it barely reaches the edge of your line of sight - or not at all.
Double shotgun is unbeatable for corner-shooting when you see the enemy. If you can get your hands and the focused double shotgun assembly, ...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
which does double shotgun damage in a normal shotgun blast
then you would have the ultimate radar-shooting weapon. (The mods needed for the assembly are not included in the spoiler.)
It all boils down to normal (elephant/combat/assault/tactical) shotgun for radarshooting, double/super when you're cornershooting and seeing the enemy :).
Title: Re: [U|AoSg|YAAM] Way too much luck this game
Post by: Klear on January 30, 2012, 13:12: Yeah.. I got that assembly and I think I've already assembled it before. I will have to manage to get to Hell's Armory with some ammo first.

BTW, right now I'm playing standard UV game (hoping for Veteran Gold or Platinum Badge) and I'm in the anomaly with a shitload of shells (it's so much fun with an invulnerability!), despite not using any non-shotgun weapons. Figures.
Title: Re: [U|AoSg|YAAM] Way too much luck this game
Post by: ZicherCZ on January 30, 2012, 13:21: But the invulnerability means you had to miss The Wall ...?
Anyway, best of luck. I expect to see a YaVP post soon ;).
Title: Re: [U|AoSg|YAAM] Way too much luck this game
Post by: Klear on January 30, 2012, 14:03: Yeah.. I skipped the wall after remembering how I got owned last time I attempted it because I didn't take the arch-viles into account =)

It was a good run, but mortally wounded cybie got me in the end while I reloaded my plasma rifle. Still, I'm confident I can beat UV in a few tries, which is something I though I'd never be able to say.
Title: Re: [U|AoSg|YAAM] Way too much luck this game
Post by: AlterAsc on January 31, 2012, 08:14: Quote
On the other hand, Malek's 30% fire resist could have been the reason
Berserk activation from being hit is calculated before armor and resistances.At least 1/3 of your max hp(red flash) is the requirement for it.So 20 for Marine, 17 for others.That's without Iro of course.