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DoomRL => Post Mortem => Nightmare! => Topic started by: 2DeviationsOut on March 20, 2013, 12:53

Title: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: 2DeviationsOut on March 20, 2013, 12:53
I don't have time for a writeup now, but here's the mortem dump. Also, I missed having the spider's lair and it's nuclear plasgun. Also, I need to see if I can do something about accidentally picking Ironman so much.

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 TwoDev, level 18 Apostle Chaos Colonel Marine,
 nuked the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
 He survived 167994 turns and scored 1090642 points.
 He played for 2 hours, 58 minutes and 4 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 1722 out of 1722 hellspawn. (100%)
 This ass-kicking marine killed all of them!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 11
  Levels completed : 11

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  Cyberdemon's Head
  UAC Star (gold cluster)
  Medal of Prejudice
  Aurora Medallion
  Conqueror Badge
  Untouchable Cross
  Angelic Badge
  Shambler's Head
  Hell Arena Pwnage Medal
  UAC Angelic Badge
  Veteran Angelic Badge
  Elite Angelic Badge
  Demonic Angelic Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 100/100   Experience 177798/18
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +2  ToDmg Melee +2

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Marine

    Ironman          (Level 4)
    Finesse          (Level 3)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 2)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Triggerhappy     (Level 2)
    Ammochain        (Level 1)

  SoB->SoB->TH->TH->Rel->Rel->Iro->MAc->Iro->Fin->Fin->WK->WK->Fin->HR->Iro->HR->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   phaseshift armor [2] (O)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   plasma rifle (1d8)x6 [35/40] (A1P1T3)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   antigrav plasteel boots [2/2] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   BFG 9000 (10d6) [4/220] (B3)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] missile launcher (6d6) [8/8] (B3)
    [b] Anti-Freak Jackal (5d3) [6/6]
    [c] Railgun (8d8) [0/40]
    [d] Berserker Armor [0]
    [e] 10mm ammo (x133)
    [f] rocket (x14)
    [g] rocket (x14)
    [h] rocket (x14)
    [i] homing phase device
    [j] envirosuit pack
    [k] envirosuit pack
    [l] rocket box (x20)
    [m] rocket box (x20)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 0%    torso 30%   feet 0%   
    Melee      - internal 0%    torso 30%   feet 0%   
    Shrapnel   - internal 0%    torso 30%   feet 0%   
    Acid       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 50% 
    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 0%    feet 25% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    190 former humans
    178 former sergeants
    75 former captains
    178 imps
    94 demons
    418 lost souls
    62 cacodemons
    61 hell knights
    100 barons of hell
    59 arachnotrons
    27 former commandos
    40 pain elementals
    52 revenants
    42 mancubi
    46 arch-viles
    21 nightmare imps
    12 nightmare cacodemons
    28 nightmare demons
    10 nightmare arachnotrons
    7 elite former humans
    5 elite former sergeants
    7 elite former commandos
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 lava elemental
    1 agony elemental
    1 Angel of Death
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 John Carmack
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  He flooded the entire level 3 with acid!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 7 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 7 he marched into the Military Base.
  He purified his fellow comrades.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory.
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 10 he found the Shielded Armor!
  On level 11 he arrived at the Containment Area.
  He emerged from the Containment Area victorious!
  On level 12 he romped upon the Abyssal Plains.
  He slaughtered the beasts living there.
  On level 14 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 18 he found the Anti-Freak Jackal!
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  On level 19 he found the Railgun!
  He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
  On level 20 he found the Hellwave Pack!
  On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter Limbo!
  On level 20 he found the Berserker Armor!
  He managed to clear Limbo from evil!
  On level 21 he assembled a antigrav boots!
  On level 22 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  He overloaded a nuclear BFG 9000 on level 24!
  He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
  Then finally in Hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 The baron of hell dies. The baron of hell dies. The baron of hell dies. The
 baron of hell dies. The baron of hell dies.
 John Carmack reloads his rocket launcher.
 You swap your weapons.
 Chain fire ( initial ) -- Choose target or abort...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile
 hits John Carmack.
 Chain fire ( warming ) -- Choose target or abort...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. The missile
 hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : John Carmack (almost dead) | pool of blood | [ m ]ore
 The missile hits John Carmack. The missile hits John Carmack. John Carmack
 dies. Congratulations! You defeated John Carmack! Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 1386 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 1181 of those were killed.
 24 of those were killed by something unknown.
 16 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 61 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 79 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 3 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 39 killed the bitch and survived.
 37 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: Tormuse on March 20, 2013, 13:35
Haha!  I wondered how long it would take for you to put out a mortem like this.  Just a day, apparently!  :D

Also, what's this?

  He flooded the entire level 3 with acid!

And you still didn't take any damage?  :o  I mean, well, I guess you could have had an envirosuit, which would've been a lucky find for level 3, but it's still confusing to me why you would risk the run by flipping a switch; those things are rarely worth it.
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: 2DeviationsOut on March 20, 2013, 13:37
The switch was next to the stairs, I just used it, moved onto the stairs and waited.
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: Matt_S on March 20, 2013, 15:54
Hehehe, Demonic Angelic Badge.
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: Q2ZOv on March 20, 2013, 23:47
Truly unbelieveable, as usual.
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: Tormuse on March 21, 2013, 00:07
Hehehe, Demonic Angelic Badge.

LOL!  I didn't even notice that!  That's quite ironic!  :D
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: Ashannar on March 24, 2013, 23:53
Whoah. How do you beat the Unholy Cathedral with a build like that? And you're not carrying a melee weapon. Did you bring along the chainsaw and then ditch it afterward?
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: ZicherCZ on March 25, 2013, 00:13
Whoah. How do you beat the Unholy Cathedral with a build like that? And you're not carrying a melee weapon. Did you bring along the chainsaw and then ditch it afterward?
Beating UC is no problem if you are faster than AoD (which means, both your movement and attack time is <0.67s, perhaps even less for those hordes in the antechambers). It does take quite some time - for me on UV it took ~40 minutes of whittling the AoD down by 1HP per attack. But it's definitely doable and speed is the key.
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: Deathwind on March 25, 2013, 00:19
running loops and throwing a piercing knife can work.
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: Evilpotatoe on March 25, 2013, 03:33
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running loops and throwing a piercing knife can work.
Alas, it works pretty well, y. hasn't this been "fixed" in 0.9.9.7 ? I'd give angel of death 1 HP regen, or anything else... just to prevent this. Killing this juggernaut that way feels sooooo cheap :/
also, note you can loop inside the cathedral. it's way faster than looping around.

How do you melee kill him damageless ? I tought you'd need light speed to be sure he'll never have time to attack after you do. (i.e. sum of (as + ms) < .67)
Is there something easier to get, and still fail-safe ? I always got hit when I tried this, but I guess my as wasn't fast enough.
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: ZicherCZ on March 25, 2013, 03:48
How do you melee kill him damageless ? I tought you'd need light speed to be sure he'll never have time to attack after you do. (i.e. sum of (as + ms) < .67)
Is there something easier to get, and still fail-safe ? I always got hit when I tried this, but I guess my as wasn't fast enough.
Here's what worked for me: I hit AoD once, fast enough that could not retaliate. Then I moved away from him, he followed, but since I had faster movement, after some moves he could not follow. Then I still moved, until he couldn't follow for the second time. Then I waited for one turn, which brought him into my melee range, but with enough time for me to strike without retaliation. And I moved again ...
Rinse and repeat for about half an hour, and you're fine even without any weapon and/or Brute.
I can't recall my movement/attack speeds at that time, but they both must be <0.67s for this plan to have a chance.
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: Ashannar on March 25, 2013, 13:22
Couldn't you use a throwing knife so you would only have to worry about movement speed?
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: ZicherCZ on March 25, 2013, 13:25
In that case it was a AoMC/UV game and I was playing a Cateye rapidfire Scout who decided to give Conqueror a shot - but the decision was made somewhere around Cybie. For that reason, I had no melee weapons whatsoever ...
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: 2DeviationsOut on March 27, 2013, 07:39
I had a chainsaw, but I ditched it after I killed the AoD. Mainly though, I used the throwing knife strategy.
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: thelaptop on March 27, 2013, 08:44
I'm a little sad no one noticed the new ranks we made.

=(
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: AlterAsc on March 27, 2013, 08:48
Of course we noticed.
And i hoped to get God Hand in this version, but it totally jumped out of my reach :) .
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: Tormuse on March 27, 2013, 09:52
I'm a little sad no one noticed the new ranks we made.

=(

"Chaos Colonel," eh?  Maybe, one day, that will be my rank too.  It's nice to have something new to shoot for.  :)
Title: Re: [N!|YAAM|YAFW] Quad Angelic
Post by: StarStorm on March 29, 2013, 12:10
What the hell sort of deity are you?