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DoomRL => Post Mortem => Topic started by: cl_gibcount 9999 on July 13, 2013, 20:10

Title: [M|100%|YAAM] First win, shotguns ahoy!
Post by: cl_gibcount 9999 on July 13, 2013, 20:10: -------------------------------------------------------------- DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump -------------------------------------------------------------- EARLY CUYLER, level 13 Demon Corporal Scout, defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis. He survived 119702 turns and scored 130552 points. He played for 3 hours, 51 minutes and 26 seconds. He didn't like it too rough. He killed 823 out of 823 hellspawn. (100%) This ass-kicking marine killed all of them! He saved himself 4 times. -- Special levels -------------------------------------------- Levels generated : 11 Levels visited : 11 Levels completed : 11 -- Awards ---------------------------------------------------- Cyberdemon's Head Mastermind's Brain Medal of Prejudice UAC Star (gold cluster) Aurora Medallion Explorer Badge Conqueror Badge Grim Reaper's Badge Hell Armorer Badge Hell Arena Key Heroic Bronze Badge UAC Bronze Badge Veteran Bronze Badge Lava Bronze Badge Reaper Bronze Badge Reaper Silver Badge Reaper Gold Badge Scavenger Bronze Badge Scavenger Silver Badge Scavenger Gold Badge -- Graveyard ------------------------------------------------- ########################################################### ###################................................######## ##################...............####...............####### #################.......####.....####.....####.......###### ################........####.....####.....####........##### ###############.........####.....####.....####.........#### ##############..........####..............####..........### #############............................................## #############....####............................####....## #############....####............................####....## #############....####............................####&...## #############....####............................####....## #############............................................## ##############..........####..............####..........### ###############.........####.%...####.....####.........#### ################........####.....####.....####........##### #################.......####..X..####.....####.......###### ##################...............####...............####### ###################................................######## ########################################################### -- Statistics ------------------------------------------------ Health 60/60 Experience 75654/13 ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +0 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +0 -- Traits ---------------------------------------------------- Class : Scout Ironman (Level 1) Finesse (Level 1) Hellrunner (Level 3) Reloader (Level 2) Juggler (Level 1) Dodgemaster (Level 1) Intuition (Level 2) Shottyman (Level 1) Gunrunner (Level 1) Rel->Rel->SM->HR->Fin->Jug->HR->DM->MGr->Iro->Int->HR->Int-> -- Equipment ------------------------------------------------- [a] [ Armor ] Angelic Armor [7/7] (67%) [b] [ Weapon ] super shotgun (9d4)x2 [0/2] (P1) [c] [ Boots ] gothic boots [10/10] (196%) (A) [d] [ Prepared ] tactical shotgun (8d3) [5/5] -- Inventory ------------------------------------------------- [a] missile launcher (6d7) [4/4] (P1) [b] BFG 9000 (10d6) [130/130] (B1) [c] Trigun (3d6) [6/6] [d] Longinus Spear (8d8) [e] shotgun shell (x66) [f] shotgun shell (x70) [g] rocket (x14) [h] rocket (x14) [i] small med-pack [j] large med-pack [k] large med-pack [l] large med-pack [m] large med-pack [n] large med-pack [o] large med-pack [p] large med-pack [q] large med-pack [r] thermonuclear bomb [s] lava element [t] shell box (x100) -- Resistances ----------------------------------------------- Bullet - internal 0% torso 50% feet 0% Melee - internal 0% torso 50% feet 0% Shrapnel - internal 0% torso 50% feet 0% -- Kills ----------------------------------------------------- 112 former humans 81 former sergeants 26 former captains 98 imps 65 demons 240 lost souls 56 cacodemons 32 hell knights 25 barons of hell 23 arachnotrons 5 former commandos 15 pain elementals 7 revenants 15 mancubi 7 arch-viles 5 elite former humans 2 elite former sergeants 2 bruiser brothers 1 shambler 1 lava elemental 1 agony elemental 1 Angel of Death 1 Cyberdemon 1 Spider Mastermind 1 Arena Master -- History --------------------------------------------------- He started his journey on the surface of Phobos. On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena. He left the Arena as a champion! On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court. On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff! He defeated the Hell Arena Master! On level 6 he assembled a tactical armor! On level 7 he marched into the Military Base. On level 7 he assembled a tactical shotgun! He purified his fellow comrades. On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly. On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory. On level 9 he assembled a tactical boots! He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards! On level 11 he assembled a fireproof armor! On level 11 he witnessed the Wall. He massacred the evil behind the Wall! On level 12 he found the City of Skulls. He wiped out the City of Skulls. On level 13 he assembled a tactical armor! On level 14 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage. On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel! On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral! On level 17 he found the Longinus Spear! He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral! On level 19 he entered the Vaults. On level 19 he found the Trigun! He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out! On level 20 he stumbled into a complex full of mancubi! On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary! On level 20 he found the Angelic Armor! He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil! On level 22 he arrived at Mt. Erebus. On level 22 he found the Berserker Armor! He managed to raise Mt. Erebus completely! Then at last he found Dis! On level 24 he finally defeated the Mastermind. -- Messages -------------------------------------------------- You start running! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! The Spider Mastermind flinched! You dodge! Boom! Boom! You dodge! You dodge! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind dies. Congratulations! You defeated the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>... You feel relatively safe now. -- General --------------------------------------------------- 22 brave souls have ventured into Phobos: 20 of those were killed. And 1 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide. 1 souls destroyed the Mastermind... 1 killed the bitch and survived. --------------------------------------------------------------
My first win in DoomRL, was a very fun run overall too. I absolutely love Gunrunner + Shottyman.

I found that super shotgun in Hell's Armory and that thing is just crazy with the aforementioned traits. The Mortuary especially was just a blast, literally, as I ran at every Arch-Vile blasting them with a ton of damage and sending them hurtling backwards.

Dodgemaster made both Cyberdemon and Mastermind quite easy to beat without taking any damage. Mastermind especially because I had Gunrunner at that point, I just danced around it and let the super shotgun do what it does best.

The amount of knockback that weapon dishes out just completely locks down everything as it gets ripped to pieces by just about 6 9d4 shells a second during Gunrunner.
Title: Re: [M|100%|YAAM] First win, shotguns ahoy!
Post by: wheals on July 13, 2013, 21:34: Out of curiosity, how did you handle the Cathedral? I've never done it with anything but a pure melee build, and I saw you didn't even have Brute.
Title: Re: [M|100%|YAAM] First win, shotguns ahoy!
Post by: cl_gibcount 9999 on July 13, 2013, 22:25: I had kept the chainsaw with me specifically for this.

Basically after a bit I figured out a way to abuse my high speed (used Tactical armor all the way until I got the Angelic armor) to get free hits on Death.

Take several steps away until he falls back to 2 spaces between us, take one more step, then '5' to wait a turn. If Death jumps 2 spaces into my face, I get one free swing with chainsaw then repeat. If Death only moves one space to me, then go back to moving away until it repeats.

Basically once I figured that out I beat him without taking any further hits.
Title: Re: [M|100%|YAAM] First win, shotguns ahoy!
Post by: LuckyDee on July 14, 2013, 00:08: Very impressive, it looks like I should really be giving MGr a try as well. Did it occur to you that you could have gone for a full win as well?
Title: Re: [M|100%|YAAM] First win, shotguns ahoy!
Post by: cl_gibcount 9999 on July 14, 2013, 00:37: It did not occur to me unfortunately. I wasn't aware there was a special process to do so until after I finished. I know now for future games though, plus I got the Mastermind's Brain in this run so it all worked out well.
Title: Re: [M|100%|YAAM] First win, shotguns ahoy!
Post by: 2birds1stone on July 14, 2013, 02:12: Huh, I always thought that DS was required for BA, but apparently not. Either that, or the game marks BA as seen even if you don't pick it up (possible, given that it's not in your inventory)?

Also, grats on having your first win both YAAM and Conqueror; Conqueror especially isn't anything to be sneezed at.
Title: Re: [M|100%|YAAM] First win, shotguns ahoy!
Post by: wheals on July 14, 2013, 07:39: Quote from: 2birds1stone on July 14, 2013, 02:12
Huh, I always thought that DS was required for BA, but apparently not. Either that, or the game marks BA as seen even if you don't pick it up (possible, given that it's not in your inventory)?

Also, grats on having your first win both YAAM and Conqueror; Conqueror especially isn't anything to be sneezed at.

No, you can definitely pick up BA without having Dragonslayer. Otherwise it would kind of suck if you found Berserker Armor first and couldn't again, even after you found DS?
Title: Re: [M|100%|YAAM] First win, shotguns ahoy!
Post by: 2birds1stone on July 16, 2013, 02:18: Quote from: wheals on July 14, 2013, 07:39
No, you can definitely pick up BA without having Dragonslayer. Otherwise it would kind of suck if you found Berserker Armor first and couldn't again, even after you found DS?
Given that (to the best of my knowledge),
Spoiler: Dragonslayer related (click to show/hide)
there's a guaranteed DS before the guaranteed BA, this really wouldn't be an issue.

Also,
Spoiler: Dragonslayer related (click to show/hide)
I checked the wiki, and it agrees with me.
Title: Re: [M|100%|YAAM] First win, shotguns ahoy!
Post by: wheals on July 16, 2013, 16:10: Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The wiki confirms you can't wear BA without wielding DS, but you can pick it up (it doesn't auto-wear), and unique finds are based on pickups.
Title: Re: [M|100%|YAAM] First win, shotguns ahoy!
Post by: White Rider on July 17, 2013, 01:35: Impressive first win, made even better with both Cybie's Head and Mastermind's Brain.
It pains me to see that you had both the nuke and the lava element though, but I'd say getting Mastermind's Brain made getting the normal win worth it.

...Bah, and you had a Trigun...