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DoomRL => Post Mortem => Topic started by: AsciiDoughnut on September 17, 2014, 22:49

Title: [E|Standard|99%|YAVP] First Successful Melee Build
Post by: AsciiDoughnut on September 17, 2014, 22:49: -------------------------------------------------------------- DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump -------------------------------------------------------------- Ilya Bely, level 10 Cacodemon Sergeant Marine, defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis. He survived 94661 turns and scored 43848 points. He played for 1 hour, 28 minutes and 25 seconds. He was too young to die! He killed 440 out of 441 hellspawn. (99%) He was a real killing machine... He saved himself once. -- Special levels -------------------------------------------- Levels generated : 7 Levels visited : 3 Levels completed : 3 -- Awards ---------------------------------------------------- Gatekeeper Silver Badge Lava Bronze Badge Skull Bronze Badge -- Graveyard ------------------------------------------------- ########################################################### #>#####################................................#### ######################...............####...............### #####################.......####.....####.....####.......## ####################........####.....####.....####........# ###################.........####.....####.....####......... ##################..........####..............####......... #################.......................................... #################....####............................####.. #################....####............................####.. #################....####............................####&. #################....####............................####.. #################.......................................... ##################..........####..............####......... ###################.........####.....####.....####......... ####################.....X..####.....####.....####........# #####################...%...####.....####.....####.......## ######################...............####...............### #>#####################................................#### ########################################################### -- Statistics ------------------------------------------------ Health 94/60 Experience 41329/10 ToHit Ranged +0 ToHit Melee +6 ToDmg Ranged +0 ToDmg Melee +9 -- Traits ---------------------------------------------------- Class : Marine Finesse (Level 2) Brute (Level 3) Berserker (Level 1) Whizkid (Level 2) Badass (Level 1) Vampyre (Level 1) Bru->Bru->Ber->Bru->Bad->MVm->Fin->Fin->WK->WK-> -- Equipment ------------------------------------------------- [a] [ Armor ] red armor [4/4] (72%) (B) [b] [ Weapon ] piercing chainsaw (4d7) [c] [ Boots ] phaseshift boots [4/4] (100%) [d] [ Prepared ] combat shotgun (7d3) [10/10] (B3) -- Inventory ------------------------------------------------- [a] shotgun shell (x24) [b] small med-pack [c] small med-pack [d] small med-pack [e] large med-pack [f] large med-pack [g] large med-pack [h] large med-pack [i] large med-pack [j] large med-pack [k] large med-pack [l] large med-pack [m] large med-pack [n] homing phase device [o] bulk mod pack [p] hatred skull [q] steel boots [1/1] (100%) (A) [r] shell box (x100) -- Resistances ----------------------------------------------- Bullet - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60% Melee - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60% Shrapnel - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60% Acid - internal 85% torso 85% feet 85% Fire - internal 85% torso 95% feet 85% Plasma - internal 60% torso 60% feet 60% -- Kills ----------------------------------------------------- 70 former humans 43 former sergeants 18 former captains 93 imps 20 demons 127 lost souls 17 cacodemons 9 hell knights 17 barons of hell 5 former commandos 9 pain elementals 2 revenants 1 mancubus 3 arch-viles 2 bruiser brothers 1 lava elemental 1 agony elemental 1 Cyberdemon 1 Spider Mastermind -- History --------------------------------------------------- He started his journey on the surface of Phobos. On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court. On level 6 he assembled a piercing blade! On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly. On level 12 he romped upon the Abyssal Plains. He slaughtered the beasts living there. On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel! Level 21 was a hard nut to crack! On level 22 he arrived at Mt. Erebus. He managed to raise Mt. Erebus completely! On level 23, hell froze over! Then at last he found Dis! On level 24 he finally defeated the Mastermind. -- Messages -------------------------------------------------- You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! The Spider Mastermind hits you. You dodge! Boom! You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You feel like a killing machine! You're going berserk! You need to taste blood! You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You need to taste blood! You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You need to taste blood! You need to taste blood! You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind flinched! You need to taste blood! You hit the Spider Mastermind. The Spider Mastermind dies. Congratulations! You defeated the Spider Mastermind! Press <Enter>... You feel relatively safe now. You're going berserk! -- General --------------------------------------------------- 66 brave souls have ventured into Phobos: 54 of those were killed. 1 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual. And 9 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide. 2 souls destroyed the Mastermind... 2 killed the bitch and survived. --------------------------------------------------------------

It was pretty fun! After being frustrated with trying to get anywhere on M and H, I decided to just go for ITYTD win. Melee proved to be much more exciting than my masterless rapid-fire character. Any tips from you guys on surviving on higher difficulties? Obviously, playing a ton of doomrl would help, but what about tactics or preferred builds? I've found that my shotgun and pistol build usually patter out past cybie, and surviving early melee game sucks. I already corned shoot, so that's nice, and I usually avoid special levels on other difficulties(barring chained court).

thelaptop: Hi! Welcome to the forums. Remember to use mortem tags for mortems next time you post. =)
Title: Re: [E|Standard|99%|YAVP] First Successful Melee Build
Post by: Tormuse on September 18, 2014, 00:15: Welcome to the forums, and nice win! I see you've discovered my favourite build, Vampyre! :) I wonder who was the one guy who got away. :P

Basic tips: Use the terrain to your advantage; seek cover whenever possible so that as few enemies as possible can shoot you at a time. (Preferably one at a time) Speaking for myself, my early games benefitted from Tough as Nails and Ironman since I hadn't mastered avoiding getting hit, but later on, I found it more helpful to get Son of a Bitch so I could kill them faster and/or Hellrunner to evade them better or get into a better position to avoid damage.

Beyond that, it depends on your playstyle, I think. If you'd like to see an example of how I play it, it just so happens that I very recently made a recording of myself winning a Conqueror game at Ultraviolence. Here's the mortem. (http://forum.chaosforge.org/index.php/topic,7233.0.html) :)
Title: Re: [E|Standard|99%|YAVP] First Successful Melee Build
Post by: Thiebs on September 18, 2014, 01:56: Congrats! It took me a long time to get to winning on anything higher than ITYTD too. But you should try to go for Sharpshooter if you like pistols. You'll hit a point where you get a TON of reliability out of your shots, which makes decision-making and risk assessment a lot more simple. It's tough to get to it, but since you mentioned dwindling out in the late game...