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Title: Cruel level start
Post by: maso on May 05, 2007, 17:38
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This is also on easy. I think its little unfair(although I had a phase device). I don't mind monsters in my LOS but not next to me. I also had one of these rooms on easy filled with lost souls on level 2 or 3. I died real quick. 
Title: Re: Cruel level start
Post by: Karry on May 06, 2007, 03:29
I suggest limiting the monsters in LOS on start. Like, maybe 3 or 4.
Title: Re: Cruel level start
Post by: Picklish on May 06, 2007, 08:48
If that's on level start, wouldn't you have had some time to run out the door before anything started attacking?
Title: Re: Cruel level start
Post by: maso on May 06, 2007, 10:20
Another one this time in AOB
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Title: Re: Cruel level start
Post by: Karry on May 07, 2007, 08:25
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Another one this time in AOB
Meh. Lev7 with a chainsaw ?
I had this exact situation on level 3 with a knife !

Correction : level 2 with a knife.
Title: Re: Cruel level start
Post by: Kornel Kisielewicz on May 07, 2007, 20:58
Actually I think it's fun :P. Both situations are survivable because of the "warmup". And on later levels you DO have a phase device for such emergencies, do you :P?
Title: Re: Cruel level start
Post by: TFoN on May 08, 2007, 10:16
Fun??? I beg to differ! This has happened to me in such ways that it was ~0% possible to make it out alive, and on easy difflvls: no PD (too early), no door (too far), and otherwise no chance (5 Lost Souls surrounding you in such a way that you MUST kill one to get through, but you can't, either becuase all you have is a knife or because all you have is an unmodded pistol. Even with a SG this is damn hard, considering warmup for LS's about 2 turns, which is enough to kill 1 and a half and then get nibbled to death! A CG or CmbtSG're far more survivable).
Title: Re: Cruel level start
Post by: Karry on May 08, 2007, 23:18
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Both situations are survivable because of the "warmup".
Survivable ? I dont think so.

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This has happened to me in such ways that it was ~0% possible to make it out alive, and on easy difflvls: no PD (too early), no door (too far), and otherwise no chance (5 Lost Souls surrounding you in such a way that you MUST kill one to get through, but you can't, either becuase all you have is a knife or because all you have is an unmodded pistol.
What he said.
Title: Re: Cruel level start
Post by: Rook on May 08, 2007, 23:51
If you have a gun when surrounded by lost souls like that, I'd just take my chances blasting the barrel, and hope the explosion kills them before me. Not pleasant, but survivable...barely. However, on AoB?...Yeah, you're dead.

But the point still stands. This might be fine a little later on, but in the first couple levels of the game, it's overkill. I've had it happen to me on AoM once (on the second level), with nothing explosive in the room, and a lost soul guarding the door...I was able to kill two before I was torn apart.