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 on: Yesterday at 20:50 
Started by Omega Tyrant - Last post by Trar
If the Unexplored Star medal is added, I'd personally prefer if it's called the Medal of Chance. "Unexplored Star" makes it sound like you're being rewarded for not doing something that's completely optional, which the special levels are. "Medal of Chance" on the other hand is an ironic name.

As for weapons:

* Thank you for adding the M6D Pistol to the proposal list. I'm glad balance changes make implementing it in its full glory a workable idea.

* I feel like the WSTE-M5 Combat Shotgun could work as a weapon if it was given a damage boost to be better than the tactical/assault shotguns, and if its generation chance was weighted to favor early levels (as early as level 2 I'd say).

* I'm fine with Ammochain working with the Unmaker on its final level, since getting to that point requires significant investment to do so. I think I'm alright with having its final level work with Triggerhappy if it's a rapidfire weapon, as long as it means more rapidfire shots in succession like eg. the chaingun, instead of shooting more than 3 beams at once. Accuracy for the base Unmaker should be fairly high but not perfect, with better accuracy being one of the rewards of upgrading.

* As for upgrading the Unmaker, I'd probably go with demon keys hidden in certain special levels, in spots that aren't totally obvious but fairly easy to find for players who are paying attention. Think of the destructible walls that are in (IIRC) Toxin Refinery, or a switch hidden in a destructible crate. That's how it was in Doom 64, after all. Alternatively they could just be rewards for killing certain boss enemies while having the Unmaker. "You feel the Unmaker calling out to a demonic artifact here/possessed by a powerful demon!" could be the hint text for either situation.

* Two new weapon ideas from me that tie more closely to Doom's history and legacy:

The Wolfenstein 3D pistol, stated in The Official Hint Manual for Wolfenstein 3D™ to be a Walther P38 but should probably be called the Old Pistol. A unique pistol, with firing sound lifted straight from Wolf3D and sprite graphic...probably lifted from some modder who made one for a Doom mod or something. 8 round magazine, faster reload, more accurate and a bit more damaging than the base pistol. Does additional damage damage the closer you are to an enemy. I wish that WolfRL total conversion mod from a while back actually got finished, but this will do.

The grenade launcher from Quake, assuming that programming and implementing grenade projectiles that don't explode on impact is feasible and desirable.

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 on: Yesterday at 19:58 
Started by Angle of Death - Last post by Trar
So I was considering adding this to the compilation thread of suggestions I just made, as I think a unique pistol that has an Aimed Shot alt-fire that extends visibility while targeting is interesting, which can be especially handy as lategame Pistol builds will frequently knockback enemies out of their vision. My concern however is with how you described it, it'll just completely outclass all other pistols. You didn't give a number on damage, but I'm assuming you're thinking of something as strong as the Trigun's 3d6, or at least no weaker than 3d5, yet has a clip twice the size of the Trigun and Jackal, while also having the aforementioned sniping ability that would be very powerful on just the base Pistol. If it's to have that sort of power, I think it'll have to have a 1.5 second firing speed at base (which will come down to .15 second firing speed with SoG5), in addition to still having the half speed penalty when aim shooting, so that it isn't just the best pistol at everything and broken out of the box (at least not without also having heavy Finesse investment too to hit that minimum firing speed with it). I never played Halo, so I don't know if that slower firing speed is faithful, but some compromise would have to be made and the power + sniping are the defining parts of the weapon, so slow firing speed seems to the best place to compromise on (also reading the Wikipedia page, the pistol even got changed in Halo 3 to fire slower, so there's precedent for that balancing).

Not sure how I missed this, but the firing speed is a fairly integral part of the pistol in Halo CE. You could reduce the firing speed to be more like the Halo 3 pistol, but then it wouldn't be the specific M6D pistol that has its on Wikipedia page. I will probably post more about this in the compilation thread.

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 on: January 05, 2026, 14:02 
Started by Omega Tyrant - Last post by Omega Tyrant
In the dwindling list of Diamonds I haven't gotten yet in 0.9.9.7, I decided to go for Masochist Diamond, yet another of the few big scary Diamonds that few have attempted and even fewer have won. On the 0.9.9.7 Badge Hunters thread, only three people are recorded winning it; Gooselord1, Icy, and papilio, who was also the only one that did it purely. In versions prior to 0.9.9.7, you just have this supposed Masochist Diamond run in 0.9.9.5 by 2Dev (which would have actually been one of his more believable mortems... if not for his trademark unrealistically fast play time), and this 0.9.9.4 Masochist Diamond by Tormuse (unsurprising Tormuse won this before, though surprising he never got it back in 0.9.9.7). This isn't the Diamond with the worst track record, but still among the rarest and I imagine most Diamond-level players were too spooked to even try winning it.

So now time for the build. Looking over the prior Masochist Diamond runs, Icy used a Intuition stair dive Scout, but he also combined AoMs with AoMC, and without AoMC's massive offensive boost, that build would be far too weak to get through any difficult floor without powerups, so it would be exorbitantly luck-based to try in pure AoMs. Gooselord did it through a melee Scout stair dive while combining AoB with AoMs on his way to getting Berserker Angelic, and while combining AoB with AoMs could certainly be considered more impressive than winning AoMs purely, his strategy still relied on a great deal of luck and wouldn't be close to optimal without the constraints of AoB. Papilio did an extreme damage avoidance build similar to Icy's with the same five starting traits, but he would get some offense-boosting traits after, and while papilio doesn't say how many tries it took him, skimming through his video he did get very good level luck with a shocking lack of dangerous hot starts, alongside good Invuln luck (including a clutch Invuln in an Archvile hot start that may have killed him without it), I don't think his build would have the power to survive any bad hot starts and it can't manage most of the special levels either to get their rewards, so it seems overly luck-based for my liking as well (on another note, I was shocked at how inefficient papilio was with his Invulns, with no rocket jumping and other action-inefficient things like not taking advantage of full reload, he could have ran through Hell entirely with invulnerability with better usage of it). 2Dev supposedly did it with the standard Ammochain build, which with it being 2Dev it can be dismissed, and standard Ammochain doesn't make sense for AoMs anyway when it's going to have a hard time avoiding damage nor is it going to be tanky, especially when he got both Triggerhappy levels before any Reloader (and he supposedly did it without using Shotguns, just to add to it being usual 2Dev bullshit).

So I want a build with the power to survive hot starts and good damage avoidance in general? Seems like a good time for my favorite mastery Shottyhead again. As usual, I open with Finesse -> Juggler for the immediate firepower it grants and helping tremendously with beating Hell's Arena, but I deviate from Shottyhead for a few levels to get Berserker; getting Berserker in my Shottyhead runs is common but usually it's post-mastery, I delay Shottyhead for it here for two reasons. One, Berserker is the best defensive trait by a mile, it'll be critical to helping me survive bad hot starts with limited healing and is good defensive insurance against VMR, barrels, or Barons rolling high damage. Two, Brute+Berserker will make beating UnChained Court + Deimos Lab much easier when they're the two special levels that Shottyhead will have a very hard time surviving without any healing, and the rewards are too good to simply pass them up (while if I roll Hell's Armory instead of Deimos Lab, the sole Shambler could still mess me up without Berserker if I get bad teleporting luck). With this Shottyhead + Berserker combo, I'm in the best position to survive hot starts with minimal damage, and Shottyhead ensures I can cornershoot anything to death without it reaching me and not get boned if another enemy pops at a different angle while cornershooting something else, while I'll also be able to repeatedly knockback multiple enemies at edge of vision to avoid damage when cover is unavailable. Once Berserker is secured, it's back to the Shottyhead prereq path, with Hellrunner first for the extra damage avoidance, and after Shottyhead, you can go for Int2 if you plan to rush the rest of the game, but I go for Fin2 and then WK2 to get more power (I also had lots of mods doing nothing in my inventory and really wanted a Focused Double Shotgun + Tactical Rocket Launcher, while I got terrible Invuln luck anyway that would have hindered a late game rush). After WK2, it's then Int1 to see any useful Invulns and Int2 for extra lategame damage avoidance assurance, and then some HR and Finesse with my endgame levels. Coincidentally, when looking over the two pre-0.9.9.7 Masochist Diamond mortems after finishing my run, it seems Tormuse settled on Shottyhead too; it's hard to compare since his run was back in 0.9.9.4 (a version so old that the Mastermind didn't exist yet and the Cyberdemon was still the final boss), though our builds differed as he didn't go for early Berserker (or at all), and he went for Int2 immediately post-mastery with no Whizkid.

For the run, since the Small Medkits do nothing, you don't need to worry about getting the two on Phobos Base Entry, and you don't need to worry much about damage either unless you get really messed up since you'll level up very shortly after to get 200% health, so you shouldn't be resetting here. You should however hold onto a Small Medkit or two when you get them for gift dropping. After an easy Phobos 2, it's onto Hell's Arena; N! Hell's Arena with no immediate healing is scary, but it's not so bad with a good build for it as you'll be guaranteed a Supercharge level up during it, and it's too rewarding in AoMs to pass up, as aside from the Rocket Launcher (which is going to be especially handy for self-triggering Berserker), the Blue Armor gets replaced with early Red Armor (which is also especially handy for mitigating the damage of face rockets for Berserker and non-Invuln'd rocket jumps), and the Large Medkit gets replaced with Plasteel Boots to make any forced fluid traversal a lot less painful. Even if you're doing a build with no melee investment and so will struggle in UnChained Court, I think clearing Hell's Arena and then skipping Chained Court later would be better for your run's overall odds in AoMs than not finishing Hell's Arena to get the easy Chained Court later. Upon killing the last Baron to clear Hell's Arena, I levelled up and so could go into the next floor with boosted health despite being unable to use the Supercharge, I just had to be very quick with picking up everything. Completing Hell's Arena would prove its worth, as I immediately get a maze on Phobos 3 that I take an uncomfortable amount of damage in, and the game is seemingly determined to abort this run, as on Phobos 4 I get a second consecutive maze. If not for the Red Armor, I would have died on the second maze when I still came close to death with it. After surviving that second maze's hot start, the rest of it wasn't so bad, and I would get a reprieve with a Lost Soul cave on Phobos 5, while their low EXP yield I usually gripe about is actually beneficial here as it gives me a levelup Supercharge in UnChained Court. Speaking of which, the detour for Berserker pays off and I'm able to beat it without too much damage, though I unfortunately wasn't able to save any of the berserks this time. The run nearly ended right after this though as I got a horrible Phobos 6, with the floor starting me in the most bottom left corner of a big empty room with a bunch of Formers and Imps, a Pain Elemental, multiple Hell Knights, and a Baron. Going for Berserker gets validated here; sticking to Shottyhead's prereq path would have probably gotten me overwhelmed here with no Shottyhead yet, while the Intuition damage avoidant builds would have gotten their shit quickly pushed in with nowhere to run. Thanks to Berserker and a well-timed facerocket to trigger it, I survive the floor but just barely, I'm a single kill from levelling up however and the next floor's start can make or break this run... and it's a Pinky cave with a Pinky I'm able to immediately kill, the run lives! I roll Phobos Lab, which is going to be dangerous with no Shottyhead, no Double Shotty, and only being able to activate run once while barely outrunning Nightmare Demons when naked without run's speed boost, but with some well timed face rockets to trigger Berserker when I needed the extra speed or when I got a Nightmare Demon in my face, I get through it without taking much damage. When I reach the end I don't stay around to clear it though and give up my bid at a N! AoMs Conqueror, as I level up right near the exit and so left right there to get through the ever dreaded N! Anomaly with Supercharged health to ensure I enter Deimos in good shape, while also taking advantage of the boosted health to kill the Bruisers for EXP without sacrificing such precious health.

After an unremarkable Deimos 1 (aside from a GCB spawning there that I had no use for), I rolled Hell's Armory instead of Deimos Lab, and with good old camping the first north building + triggering Berserker with a facerocket after releasing the Shambler, I get through with little health lost, but unfortunately the rare mod is a Firestorm, the least useful mod for this build and I just slap it on a Plasma Rifle as I'm not sure I'll be getting the BFG later. The weapon cache also didn't have a Double Shotty and only a Missile Launcher for exotics, which was also disappointing, but I do take the Missile Launcher along and P-mod it to ensure the consistency of facerockets triggering Berserker (6d6 rockets have a 90.4% chance to roll the 16+ damage needed to trigger Berserker, mostly reliable but not completely safe and any low damage rolls that fail to trigger Berserker can do as much as 5 damage in P-modded Red Armor, 7 if not P-modded, which adds up really fast in AoMs and can be lethal if such low rolls happen with enemies around, while 6d7 rockets will have a 95.9% chance, not guaranteed but substantially less chance of failure and even a max roll will still deal only 1 damage in P Red Armor as Berserker triggers). Deimos 3 would tease me with another Missile Launcher, finding Missile Launchers randomly always leave a sour feeling when you got two guaranteed ones in the special levels (still anxiously awaiting for the completely redundant second Missile Launcher in City Of Skulls/Abyssal Plains to get replaced in the next DRL version). Speaking of guaranteed Missile Launchers, I would go into Containment Area, and while I think I could have beaten the ambush, I play it safe as I won't get a level up during it and so leave the Backpack behind, only going in to get some EXP and the Rocket Box (not that the Backpack is really needed when you can infinitely farm ammo on N!).

The succeeding Abyssal Plains on the other hand (or City Of Skulls if you roll it) is a must stop in AoMs; you know those Blood Skulls that are usually the most disappointing drop from the Agony Elemental? Something most people may not know is that Blood Skulls can actually still heal you in AoMs, being one of only three things in DRL that can do so outside of levelling up (the others being Vampyre and the Medical Armors, the latter being very limited before their big 0.9.9.8 buff as they can only heal up to 25% in this version), making them one of the most valuable things for this run, and luckily I get two of them from the Agony Elemental after I effortlessly kill it with Shottyhead (as well as a Hatred Skull, which I keep too in case I want to pop into Mortuary/Limbo later). I clear out the rest of Abyssal Plains after and get a levelup to get back to full health, but after that good Abyssal Plains, the game decides to give me a very annoying Deimos 5. Luckily with no Enraged Timer yet in this version, I can just camp it in that nice camping spot in the top right and actually clear that floor with no damage (before I was forced to run through lava to reach the stairs that is). Deimos 6 would give me a Cacodemon cave that I would have just immediately left with the stairs near me... but I finally get a Double Shotgun here, so I fight my way through it. With a Homing Phase and really wanting a Power Mod for my Double Shotgun, I go into Halls Of Carnage right after I level up from the Cacos, and I got this funny bug of starting in the wall that I got once before but only in 0.9.9.8, guess it's not 0.9.9.8-exclusive (explanation, the Formers have random starting spawns and can spawn where the player does, which then pushes you into the nearby wall, actually a slightly beneficial bug as you can just move out and thus escape the starting room faster without having to run around or blowing the wall up). I use the Homing Phase after reaching the first mod, pick up the BFG, and then fight my way to the second mod, but unfortunately neither mod was a Power mod and so I'm unable to build the Focused Double Shotgun. I probably could have stuck around and cleared out the maze enemies, as berserked Shottyhead is one of the best builds for it, but since I won't have a level up during it and have already lost the Conqueror, I play it safe and leave after getting the second mod. I get through Deimos 7 and finally finish my Tactical Rocket Launcher there (usually I would ditch the Missile Launcher at this point but hold onto it for the aforementioned extra reliability with triggering Berserker since it's P-modded) and Cybie goes down as easily as you would expect against any Berserker build (I tried shotgunning him down with Shottyhead first, but I wasn't reliably dodging him and I wasn't hitting as hard as I wanted to without a Focused Double, so I just went in and Chainsawed him down to save a few more points of damage plus time), while he gets me only a kill or two away from levelling up to start Hell in good shape.

The first floor of Hell would be a fairly unremarkable small rooms level, but it has an Invulnerability Globe spawn, finally the first one I find this whole run, any run that would have relied on them would have been long dead by now. I consider taking that Invuln and trying to Invuln rush through the remaining rest of the game, but maybe the bad Invuln luck will continue and do the safer play of using it to get through Unholy Cathedral with minimal attrition damage for the Longinus Spear to greatly enhance my melee prowess. After a swell Hell 2, I would get a brutal Hell 3, getting spawned in a room with only crates for cover while a ton of Barons and Archviles to revive them were around, and when I thought I was in a good spot, a Revenant popped out of a southern door and its subsequent rocket failed to trigger Berserker, while the level just had no good quickly accessible camping spot. After my health dropped into the 20ish% range and my P-modded Red Armor got damaged, while still hearing Barons around just outside my vision, I would resort to using one of the Blood Skulls despite only having two corpses around to just get 10 HP back. I do get through the floor, but with only 12 HP left and still some kills away from levelling up (imagine if I had to get through this floor without Shottyhead nor Berserker...). Thankfully N! Vaults in this version has only Archviles and Revenants instead of Nightmare Archviles, Nightmare Arachnotrons, and Red Armored Barons, so I'm able to go in, pop the Arena Master's Staff, and quickly kill a couple Archviles safely for the levelup Supercharge to get back in business. The Vaults also had Enviroboots spawn to invalidate any forced fluid traversal, so holding onto the Staff ended up paying off big time in this run.

Following that close call with a much laxer Hell 4, I make the gutsy move to go into N! Mortuary despite AoMs preventing me from healing on demand without using up my last Blood Skull and Hell 4 having no Invuln to take into it. I do the usual opener of immediately popping my Hatred Skull, and taking advantage of this version not limiting BFG firing range by shooting a couple blasts towards each side from the center, and then rocket jump to the Nuclear BFG. Once it's secured, I just camp the corner a bit and take advantage of the unlimited BFG range to repeatedly shoot it at far out-of-vision targets, while using the Tactical Rocket Launcher or Missile Launcher or Shottyhead-boosted Tactical Shotgun to repeatedly knock enemies back, and with my strong melee I can keep some Mancubi corpses around near me to farm rockets. It takes a bit, but after I suspect most enemies are dead, I make my way to the left, and level up upon killing the last Archvile, at which I point I use the boosted health to rush through the rest. I shortly finish it after said level up and did it taking only 12 damage. Going through Mortuary wasn't just for bragging rights though, as after not getting any Power mods since Hell's Armory, I can get the guaranteed one here to finally build the Focused Double Shotgun, which ended up proving its worth when I got a Hell 6 maze with a hot start and no cover that could have been nasty, but I'm able to blow away quickly thanks to the Focused Double (the Unique by the way was a useless Mega Buster, if the game was going to give me a useless Unique, why not the Subtle Knife I need for Armorer Diamond instead of the useless Unique I already gotten a dozen times somehow despite it having a spawning weight of 1?). With the Enviroboots and Shottyhead, The Lava Pits is free, then Hell 7 gives me a relaxing penultimate level with a Humid lever, and an actually useful Unique in Malek's Armor that I have to kill a Baron for (would have wanted this much earlier but still nice for the Mastermind or Carmack). I nuke the Mastermind and then go for the Carmack kill to get ever closer to Apostle rank, and upon reaching Carmack there was actually an opportunity to take advantage of intentionally having him spawn the penalty Barons for attacking him out of vision since they give EXP and I was pretty close to levelling up, but I wasn't sure if the Barons would be enough and so play it safe. With the Blood Skull still unused, I do it use to get some boosted health after killing some Cacodemons he spawn (one advantage of fighting Carmack instead of the Mastermind in AoMs is this allowing you a mid-fight heal and tactics restoration if needed), but it's unnecessary as berserked Shottyhead with the Focused Double Shotgun effortlessly kills him.

So that's Masochist Diamond now done, and with an Explorer + Grim Reaper Pin to boot (wasn't originally planning on that but it ended up working out that way). Also succeeding despite having to get through several nasty run-ending floors, not being able to get a critical weapon for this build until the run was nearly done, and having probably the worst Invulnerability luck I ever gotten with only that single Invuln the entire run (good thing I played safe with the one I found instead of trying to Invuln rush the rest of the game). I'm telling you, everyone else slept hard on Shottyhead, I'm pretty sure this run doesn't succeed without the combo of Berserker and Shottyhead, and nearly every other qualifying build would have died in those early Phobos mazes, that horrible Phobos 6 hot start, that very rough Hell 3, or even that Hell 6 maze, let alone manage all the special levels (8 of them cleared is more than even 2Dev supposedly did in his Masochist Diamond run, and I realistically could have finished the remaining three for the unprecedented N! AoMs Conqueror if I was willing to play a bit more ballsy, maybe another time...). This should have been a first try clear too, but the first attempt died mid-Deimos after a power outage and my new UPS apparently not having its battery connected to keep my computer on (that run had a Nano Mod too and an early Assault Shotgun, so it probably goes all the way without the run getting a catastrophically terrible second half), I have to settle for a technical second try. Despite the first/second try and having an ideal build for Masochist Diamond, the run did flirted with ending multiple times, including that close call in Hell that would have been especially devastating after expending around four hours into the run, so I do have to respect it as deserving its reputation as one of the toughest Diamonds. Not quite as bad as Inquisitor Diamond though (you might be able to heal on demand in AoP, but you don't get that much more health than AoMs' levelup Supercharges give you and in AoMs your armor won't be in perpetual tatters without an Onyx/Nano in addition to still being able to use Berserks + Invulns), and I'm certain I'm gonna prefer it to the five Diamonds I have left, which are gonna be either even more extreme "don't get hit" hell or grinding hell (for reference, I finished this run with a little over 500 damage taken, I would have to shave off over 60% of that damage taken just for Demonic Diamond without the aid of a guaranteed early Red Armor). All Diamonds is in sight, but it's probably not gonna be a fun time and this will likely be the last first or second try win...

Here is the mortem:

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 letmehealpls, level 17 Cyberdemon Chaos Mjr General Scout,
 nuked the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
 He survived 1410070 turns and scored 977071 points.
 He played for 5 hours, 16 minutes and 34 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 2026 out of 2107 hellspawn. (96%)
 He held his right to remain violent.
 He was an Angel of Masochism!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 11
  Levels completed : 8

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (gold cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Explorer Badge
  Grim Reaper's Badge
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Chessmaster's Token
  Chessmaster's Cross
  Hell Champion Medal
  Masochist Diamond Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 60/50   Experience 158362/17
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +4  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +6

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Finesse          (Level 3)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Brute            (Level 2)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Berserker        (Level 1)
    Intuition        (Level 2)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Shottyman        (Level 1)
    Shottyhead       (Level 1)

  Fin->Jug->Bru->Bru->Ber->HR->Rel->Rel->SM->MSh->Fin->WK->WK->Int->Int->HR->Fin->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   Malek's Armor [3/3] (100%)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   focused double shotgun (8d4)x2 [0/2] (T1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   shell box (x52)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] tactical shotgun (8d3) [5/5]
    [b] tactical rocket launcher (6d6) [4/5]
    [c] missile launcher (6d7) [4/4] (P1)
    [d] nuclear BFG 9000 (8d6) [52/52] (B1)
    [e] BFG 9000 (10d6) [169/169] (B2)
    [f] red armor [4/4] (100%)
    [g] red armor [6/6] (90%) (AP)
    [h] Angelic Armor [7/7] (96%)
    [i] chainsaw (5d6) (BT)
    [j] Longinus Spear (8d8)
    [k] shotgun shell (x10)
    [l] shotgun shell (x50)
    [m] rocket (x10)
    [n] rocket (x3)
    [o] rocket (x10)
    [p] power cell (x50)
    [q] Enviroboots [0]
    [r] shell box (x100)
    [s] rocket box (x20)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Bullet     - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Melee      - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Shrapnel   - internal 60%   torso 60%   feet 60% 
    Acid       - internal 60%   torso 90%   feet 60% 
    Fire       - internal 60%   torso 90%   feet 60% 
    Plasma     - internal 60%   torso 90%   feet 60% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    229 former humans
    196 former sergeants
    114 former captains
    259 imps
    110 demons
    563 lost souls
    80 cacodemons
    46 hell knights
    61 barons of hell
    30 arachnotrons
    48 former commandos
    54 pain elementals
    42 revenants
    98 mancubi
    43 arch-viles
    16 nightmare imps
    3 nightmare cacodemons
    24 nightmare demons
    2 bruiser brothers
    1 shambler
    1 lava elemental
    1 agony elemental
    1 Angel of Death
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 John Carmack
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 7 he sneaked into the Phobos Lab.
  He broke through the lab.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he found the Grammaton Cleric Beretta!
  On level 9 he entered Hell's Armory.
  On level 9 he assembled a tactical boots!
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 11 he arrived at the Containment Area.
  He broke into the Containment Area, but gave up against the overwhelming forces.
  On level 12 he romped upon the Abyssal Plains.
  He slaughtered the beasts living there.
  On level 13 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
  On level 14 he ventured into the Halls of Carnage.
  On level 15 he assembled a tactical rocket launcher!
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 17 he found the Longinus Spear!
  He then destroyed the Unholy Cathedral!
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  On level 19 he found the Enviroboots!
  He cracked the Vaults and cleared them out!
  On level 20 he was foolish enough to enter the Mortuary!
  On level 20 he found the Angelic Armor!
  On level 20 he assembled a focused double shotgun!
  He managed to clear the Mortuary from evil!
  On level 22 he found the Mega Buster!
  On level 22 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He managed to clear the Lava Pits completely!
  On level 23 he found the Malek's Armor!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  He nuked level 24!
  He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
  Then finally in Hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You dodge! You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You quickly reload the focused double shotgun. You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You quickly reload the focused double shotgun. You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You quickly reload the focused double shotgun. You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You quickly reload the focused double shotgun. You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 You need to taste blood!
 John Carmack dies. Congratulations! You defeated John Carmack! Press
 <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 305 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 110 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 96 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 7 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 91 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 7 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 48 killed the bitch and survived.
 36 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

--------------------------------------------------------------

 4 
 on: January 05, 2026, 03:42 
Started by Vigilante - Last post by Vigilante
1.8h GOG version, take note.

After previous non-Fated Fireangel run, this was the game I played directly next, it was Fated and it rolled Fireangel. Exam time, I guess?

And at first, conditions looked unfavorable. Callisto Rift didn't spawn, CCB spawned from E4 so I took The Pit, Mephitic Mines did not spawn. The Pit drops, and multiple Mk2  manufacturing stations on IO compensated for lack of desired branches handsomely, though, so this is definitely NOT absent good fortune.

Callisto gave toxic fiend's fang (poison immunity, melee poison, -10% damage), stayed with the rest of the game.
MDF Habitat -- used my clearance to manufacture a (MDF) focused shotgun, came with Autoloader, main weapon prior to Denial that I put auto-calibration on. on Europa not seeing a E2 CCB I realized I must main shotguns to get shotgun amp.
The Pit -- the absolute best AV3 shotgun AMP one could hope for, in the mortem (never needed to reroll), also Denial which I mained for long from that point, despite focused shotgun having more solid shot overall
IO L2 - MK2 manufacture station, made AV2 rail rifle, spawned with Speed-loader and (not sure, maybe result of another reroll) Balanced 2, rerolled Speed-loader into Fresh Mag. Balanced actually turned out to be practical in some situations later. I also had auto-calibration kit saved from Europa, and I put it on this rifle. Dismantled VP+ Mdf Chaingun (which never finished auto-calibrating) at the station, put V on vanilla unmodded plasma shotgun taken from IO L1, P on rail rifle for Hunter. I had to main shotguns to get shotgun amp at the Pit.
IO L3 - second MK2 manufacture station, kerberos infestation helped push auto-calibration of AV2 rail rifle (wound with Denial, finish with rail, if something goes wrong Denial needs experience for the last level-up too). I may have made AV2 plasma shotgun here, I think it came with Critical 50 Rush 10. I might not have rerolled Rush 10 here, probably at another station? Normal plasma shotty I carried from IO L1 I dismantled, put Vampiric on this new plasma shotty.
IO Nexus - ammo station, health station. Used ammo station for gas grenades and cells, didn't use for shells because always at 250 shells at that point. Recapped for medusa biting me on IO L2.
Infernal Lock - this is where I took Whizkid 3, but was not sure whether I used it optimally. Put Sustain on AV2 plasma shotgun. Second chamber on plasma shotgun and focused shotgun would come later (I think?). I did notice focused shotgun is better at killing warlocks than Denial, and as of yet had doubts about whether this character is strong enough for Dante Inferno.
IO L6 - yet another manufacture station, I left this with two charges (always at 5 multitools sitting in my inventory). I don't remember which tier it was, but it must have had rerolling still, I may have rerolled something once (perhaps to have Calibrated 2 on plasma shotgun instead of something else, and then there was nothing left to reroll). There was also Storage room here, if I am not mistaken.
Gateway, fighting Ancient: used all four shots from Denial, then threw a gas grenade (since sitting at 3 and another found on this level), switched to Autoloader focused shotgun and used that afterwards. Yes, I took a break to think through that one and it was the plan - a good plan that worked. Focused shotgun was not then Second Chambered still, I think, but this was unusually an easy-peasy fight, especially considering that I had no movement speed bonuses.

In complete defiance of usual game progression, my strength grew in Dante. By Dante Station L2, my plasma shotgun was Second Chambered, and before analyzing the performance, I concluded it is the best weapon to go through Dante Inferno, despite lacking Autoloader, since it has guaranteed crits due to Critical 50, my SoG ranks, highest damage per shot when reloading not taken into account. This was correct assessment, and my balance after going through Dante Inferno was -75 cells, health down from 106 to 71 (plasma shotgun was vampiric), -2 multitools (I made sure to keep armor healthy). No gas grenades or healing items used except at reward island (past all enemies) where I spent a large medkit and got ancient salve instead. The remaining charges of Dante station were spent on max health increase. I actually have screenshots for entering Dante Inferno and staying on the reward island before all opened chests (they are already posted on Discord, here they would never finish uploading). This was the cheesiest Dante Inferno performance of all games I played. My plasma shotgun could two-shot archwarlocks from optimal range, and for its astounding performance, it was the weapon that received final slot extension and Hallowed perk at the reward island. It turns out this upgrade may have made rail rifle almost obsolete as anti-guardian weapon (and I remember I had doubts whether to put Sustain on rail rifle or plasma shotgun before, I have chosen wisely to put it on plasma shotgun).

Dante L3,L4 continued in similar fashion of being overpowered, not needing gas grenades, much healing, etc. The change was maining plasma shotgun instead of Denial from now on. Still used rail rifle on demonic guardian bots, but sometimes was caught using plasma shotgun on other enemies and yet it would wipe them. I also camped a lot (which would not have been a respawn-friendly strat) to try to have openining shot on them at max aim with rail rifle whenever possible. Only on boss fight I blew through my healing resources, and was dangerously close to dying (but I forgot to use gas grenades more often and thus was taking hits from boss in the open; ended only using 2 gas grenades). Still victorious, but yes I admit I don't know in general how to properly fight last two game bosses.

Other thing of note was taking another rank in Sustained Fire in the mid of Dante Inferno, due to concluding that whatever protracted fights plasma shotty may enter, they probably need that second rank. I think it was second, I am surprised I have three. Overall, it seems being heavily armored does help to fight more confidently (though I dismissed Exosuit reward at Dante Inferno, as it would not have my Meshed and Acid immunities nor Critical 10).

Vigilant, level 18 Technician,
defeated the Harbinger against all odds.

He survived for 23646 turns.
The run time was 3h 17m 21s.
World seed was 70971.
He scored 7741 points.
He was a child of the Random Number Gods!
He was ULTRAVIOLENT!

CALLISTO L2 -> Mimir Habitat L1
Mimir Habitat L1 - Lockdown
Mimir Habitat L3 - Low Power
Mimir Habitat L3 -> MDF Central
MDF Central - Cleared!
CALLISTO L6 - The Hunt
Europa Concourse - Lockdown
EUROPA L5 -> The Pit
The Pit - found Denial
The Pit - Cleared!
IO L3 - Infestation
IO L5 -> Infernal Lock
Infernal Lock - Cleared!
Dante Inferno - Cleared!
Dante Inferno - found Exosuit
Dante Station L3 - Exalted Summons

Awards
  Medal of Prejudice (+200)
   * Won with 100% kills
  CRI Star (bronze cluster) (+50)
   * 25+ kills without taking damage
  Conqueror Ribbon (+200)
   * Completed all encountered special levels

He killed 811 out of 811 enemies.

 55 former grunts           6  security sentries
 3  corrupted grunts        6  military sentries
 1  former CRI grunt        6  CalSec bots
 4  former grenadiers       6  security bots
 5  corrupted grenadiers    4  military bots
 2  former CRI  grenadiers  3  guardian bots
 21 former soldiers         13 reavers
 24 corrupted soldiers      28 cryoreavers
 5  former CRI soldiers     20 toxic reavers
 11 former sergeants        22 archreavers
 6  corrupted sergeants     19 kerberi
 1  former CRI sergeant     18 cyberi
 21 former guards           11 cryoberi
 6  corrupted guards        10 toxiberi
 1  former commando         19 medusae
 13 corrupted commandoes    6  archmedusae
 2  former CRI commandoes   18 ravagers
 2  CRI commandoes          10 armored ravagers
 3  former heavies          8  siege ravagers
 3  corrupted heavies       10 plasma ravagers
 4  former CRI heavies      19 CRI marines
 8  fanatics                9  CRI bots
 15 security drones         25 guardians
 2  combat drones           10 frost guardians
 2  military drones         5  sentinels
 78 fiends                  13 warlocks
 9  fire fiends             12 archwarlocks
 15 ice fiends              3  watchers
 9  toxic fiends            3  cryowatchers
 24 CalSec sentries         13 MDF sentries

Traits
  Whizkid L3
  Cover Master L1
  Son of a Gun L3
  Sustained fire L3
  Hoarder L1
  Headshot L1
  Scavenger L1
  Sysop L2
  FIREANGEL L2

Trait order
  Cov->SF->Whk->Sys->MFA->Whk->Hor->Scv->
  MFA->Sys->SoG->Whk->SoG->SoG->SF->SF->
  Hsh

Equipment
  Slot #1 : AV2 rail rifle +PA
   * Critical 25
   * Fresh Mag 8
   * Hunter 4
   * Auto-calibrated
   * Balanced 2
   * Scope

  Slot #2 : Denial
   * Slowdown

  Slot #3 : AV2 plasma shotgun HBSV
   * Hallowed
   * Calibrated 2
   * Second chamber
   * Sustain
   * Vampiric 3
   * Critical 50
   * Slowdown

  Slot #4 : MDF 12ga focused shotgun +B
   * Second chamber
   * Auto-calibrated
   * Mimir Defence Force
   * Autoloader
   * Focused
   * Slowdown

  Body : combat armor P3BA
   * Carrier
   * Critical 10
   * Durable
   * Acid shield
   * Meshed

  Head : marine helmet PB2A2
   * Crit Enhancer 25
   * Health Monitor
   * Durable
   * Critical 10
   * Long-range tracking

  Utility : AV3 shotgun AMP
   * Shotgun shred capacitor
   * Shotgun crit system

  Relic : toxic fiend's fang
   * Toxic aura


Permanents
  Medusa's Curse
  CRI backpack

Inventory
  energy cell (x100)
  energy cell (x100)
  energy cell (x68)
  12ga shell (x50)
  12ga shell (x50)
  12ga shell (x50)
  gas grenade (x3)
  gas grenade (x1)
  CRI phase kit (x1)
  multitool (x5)
  stimpack (x2)

 5 
 on: January 03, 2026, 12:59 
Started by Vigilante - Last post by Vigilante
Reminder: 1.8h is GOG version. If that affects the seed (I have not installed mods otherwise).

I used to love Fireangel back in the day when I was willing to go Callisto Mines for maximum reward, but these days I don't feel like it, and I had several games which had neither Callisto Rift nor Conamara Chaos. When not willing to die every time you can't get that warlock's relic that grants immunity to his aura AND his resistances in exchange for -20 experience, Fireangel runs are dependent on game spawning BOTH specific branches: Callisto Rift and branch elevator to Conamara Chaos Biolabs spawning on E2 specifically, so that you can get maximum possible immunities + exalted essence atunement for extra damage. If neither Mines major relic, nor Rift AND exalted from Conamara, it seems one might as well abort.

Even then, the lategame suffers from health (and quite likely ammo) attrition as you lack the raw power to one-shot enemies, and Tech can't reposition good enough if caught in bad positioning, nor this is Entrenchment game where you have damage reduction, nor can you invoke smoke more than once per level most of the time. You are really dependent on weapons capable to hit out-of-sight, that is blast damage, grenades (to block sight also when caught in bad position), and shotguns. You can suffer attrition from warlocks if you fight them when they are behind cover (nevermind if you lack the raw power to outdamage archwarlock's regen). And guardian demonic bots, are the ultimate bane, as you are absolutely unlikely to one-shot them with anything at all.

Notice this UV run is not Fated. I had several Fireangel runs in a row, and this is the only one I won. The other that was at least somewhat powerful got through CRI labs of all places, and splatted on Dante (a more skilled player than me could have still won that run, but among casuals, I do consider myself experienced at this game). I still can say I have not truly figured this mastery, and it requires quite a knowledge of game mechanics (shotgun through smoke, shotgun manual targeting, shotgun out of range, armor and weapon mods necessarily to prevent attrition/deaths to Ancient, etc.) to still get a victory with all the rng I had.

What carried the victory, is the lucky drops of the first moon: AV1 shotgun with Critical 40, and AV2 shotgun amp with +50% crit damage and +1 optimal range (this triggered by spawning enemies in Rift with script, bots maybe? or demons, but demons would have dropped relic, so it must be bots. I remember it was like "I am not sure I can handle it, but let's do". Actually, now I am not quite sure it was Rift and not like CCB). All Hallowed mods arrived post-clearing Inferno, rail rifle was rarely at all used, and both rail rifle and EMP rifle are lucky drops from Mephitic Mines. Pre-IO, I think I had Critical 40 Chaingun from Callisto Rift. I passed off necrotic armor and duramesh armor in this game -- nothing is an upgrade over JS armor, even if it is basic.

Also, yes, I think plasma shotgun is too strong and just outclasses other shotguns under normal conditions, so I am glad I didn't owe THIS game to it: I didn't pick up any plasma shotguns AT ALL in the first place. Because I hate how plasma weapons tend to be a non-brainer upgrade (unless concerns about running out of plasma ammo on IO, and even then you probably will have taken one IO L1 weapon). This game on IO L1, I just modded plasma rifle with Efficient, and that is it (no usual auto-calibration and I didn't have the multitools for it), which then was dismantled on the go with Tech powers to get it on rail rifle (expected upgrade, although would have liked railgun even more), but I got EMP rifle soon afterwards. Rail rifle was still occasionally used even in Dante, but mostly to conserve plasma ammo for the EMP rifle. On some Dante level, I was caught with it, fortunately with Headshot it did some decent damage. I was tipped about possibly using Headshot (with rail rifle) in Fireangel runs on Discord, in regards to fighting bots specifically, as I seem to always have SoG 2 on my Fireangel runs one way or another. Other suggestion was Grenadier, might also work since, in experience, Fireangel tend to be a little dry on used ammo types in IO, unless you go to levels with CRI and cells is your main damage source I guess.

Firestorm, picked on CCB final "rewards" (and ammo attrition) level, really helped me feel more confident about ammo situation, so I could take Hoarder after SoG 2, and Scavenger after Headshot 1. I screwed up on Mephitic Mines and forgot to take Mephitic Taint, either didn't walk through the crowd OR it may not have been spawn, as when I rerouted gas on Mephitic L1, nothing happened, the gas stayed (I rerouted after visiting Strongroom). Also, Exalted curse on Mephitic L3 made situation easier for me, as there has been less enemies, some suffered from gas, they dropped health, and generally shotgun took care of them as quickly as the normal enemies (and exalted medusas I think can't spawn this early on UV). Not to say that both Mephitic L3 and IO L6 had health station (it even affected my choices of which health items to take, that is, I used large medkit at the end of Mephitic L3 before going to IO l6, and kept small medkits. On the next level, was able to use station for healing twice, and procuring a large medkit).

Final boss fight was tricky just like fighting the Ancient, or even trickier still because in final boss fight, I have used up both ancient salves I got from Dante Inferno's medical station (with Sysop 2, 1 full heal + 2 ancient salves), 1 large medkit that I picked up at that level, some more healing items (stimpacks?). I was fighting it in the open again ("thanks" that those remaining pillars are destructible) and always bordered near death. If I did not take so much health increases (and mind you, I went to Dante with a lot of healing items, though a lot bled at Dante Inferno), I would not have survived, if third phase didn't fly away from me out of sight, I would not have survived, etc. And that is after all the luck: the acid dreams relic, the attunements, everything. Really, after masteries that attack on the run and/or dodge well, or games where you can stealth, or at least have damage reduction (Entrenchment), you forget how to fight Ancient, how to fight final boss. So if you struggle at winning with Fireangel, know that you are not alone: this loadout is perfect, I think, really insane luck and yet still borders on death.

Vigilant, level 18 Technician,
defeated the Harbinger against all odds.

He survived for 22091 turns.
The run time was 3h 0m 11s.
World seed was 84529.
He scored 7882 points.
He was ULTRAVIOLENT!

CALLISTO L3 - Low Power
Callisto Hub -> Callisto Rift L1
Callisto Rift L2 -> The Rift
The Rift - Cleared!
EUROPA L2 - Low Power
EUROPA L2 -> Conamara Chaos Biolabs L1
Conamara Chaos Biolabs L3 - Secure Vault
Conamara Chaos Biolabs L3 -> Containment Area
Containment Area - Cleared!
Containment Area - found Firestorm
IO L2 - Secure Vault
IO L2 -> Mephitic Mines L1
Mephitic Mines L3 - Exalted Curse
Mephitic Mines L3 -> Noxious Hollow
Noxious Hollow - Cleared!
Dante Inferno - Cleared!
Dante Inferno - found Avalanche
Dante Inferno - found Death
Dante Station L3 - Exalted Summons

Awards
  Medal of Prejudice (+200)
   * Won with 100% kills
  CRI Star (bronze cluster) (+50)
   * 25+ kills without taking damage
  Conqueror Ribbon (+200)
   * Completed all encountered special levels

He killed 905 out of 905 enemies.

 60 former grunts           7  security sentries
 15 corrupted grunts        6  military sentries
 1  former CRI grunt        7  CalSec bots
 12 former grenadiers       8  security bots
 4  corrupted grenadiers    2  military bots
 10 former soldiers         22 reavers
 18 corrupted soldiers      24 cryoreavers
 15 former CRI soldiers     36 toxic reavers
 9  former sergeants        23 archreavers
 5  corrupted sergeants     13 kerberi
 2  former CRI sergeants    8  cyberi
 1  CRI sergeant            16 cryoberi
 22 former guards           3  toxiberi
 4  corrupted guards        24 medusae
 2  CRI guards              14 archmedusae
 2  former commandoes       30 ravagers
 23 corrupted commandoes    7  armored ravagers
 4  former CRI commandoes   17 plasma ravagers
 3  corrupted heavies       31 CRI marines
 2  CRI heavies             10 CRI bots
 8  fanatics                12 guardians
 16 security drones         5  frost guardians
 3  combat drones           3  sentinels
 100fiends                  9  warlocks
 56 fire fiends             16 archwarlocks
 43 ice fiends              4  watchers
 20 toxic fiends            4  cryowatchers
 12 CalSec sentries         2  pyrowatchers

Traits
  Whizkid L3
  Cover Master L1
  Son of a Gun L2
  Sustained fire L2
  Hoarder L1
  Headshot L3
  Scavenger L1
  Sysop L2
  FIREANGEL L2

Trait order
  Cov->SF->Whk->Sys->MFA->Sys->Whk->SoG->
  MFA->Whk->SoG->Hor->Hsh->Scv->Hsh->Hsh->
  SF

Equipment
  Slot #1 : IDR rail rifle BA2
   * Balanced 1
   * Critical 25
   * Efficient
   * Io Defence Reserve
   * Scope

  Slot #2 : AV1 12ga shotgun +HB2A
   * Hallowed
   * Second chamber
   * Calibrated 1
   * Autoloader
   * Auto-calibrated
   * Critical 40
   * Slowdown

  Slot #3 : Firestorm
  Slot #4 : IDR EMP rifle HBA
   * Hallowed
   * Critical 25
   * Swap Harness
   * Io Defence Reserve
   * Rush 10
   * Advanced EMP

  Body : JS basic armor B3A2
   * Swift
   * Metabolic boost
   * Padded
   * Loading feed
   * Durable
   * JoviSec

  Head : JS basic helmet P2B2A
   * Health Monitor
   * Crit Enhancer 25
   * Plated
   * Long-range tracking
   * Durable
   * JoviSec

  Utility : AV2 shotgun AMP
   * Shotgun shred capacitor
   * Shotgun spread control

  Relic : archreaver's claw
   * Acid dreams


Permanents
  Medusa's Curse
  Exalted Essence Attunement
  Fire Essence Attunement
  Blood Essence Attunement
  Pain Essence Attunement
  Rift Attunement

Inventory
  energy cell (x100)
  energy cell (x100)
  energy cell (x100)
  12ga shell (x47)
  multitool (x5)
  stimpack (x1)

 6 
 on: January 02, 2026, 16:20 
Started by Omega Tyrant - Last post by Omega Tyrant
Eagerness Diamond is another of those scary Diamonds that few people won and even fewer won without Dual Angel cheese; according to the 0.9.9.7 Badge Hunters thread, only four people won it 0.9.9.7, which were Fanta Hege, papilio, Sereg, and Icy, of which only papilio did it without mixing AoI with AoOC, while even in 0.9.9.6 and 0.9.9.5 no one is listed winning it after its requirement got changed to the current one. AoI itself is a pretty scary challenge, as without the insurance of carrying medkits with you, any bad level spawn without nearby health can suddenly end the run, even late in the game. Then Eagerness Diamond makes it worse by requiring you to use the Technician, whose passive of near-instant item use is rendered nearly irrelevant, and the Technician is the worst class too in 0.9.9.7, as alongside the already weaker passives, all their masteries are heavily flawed or outright awful. But is it truly one of the top tier Diamonds? I did win the formerly believed-to-be-near-impossible Eagerness Angelic, so can it really be that bad?

For the build, when looking over the aforementioned Eagerness Diamond mortems, we can dismiss the Sereg'd runs that obviously relied on strategies that are not applicable to a full game, so that just leaves papilio's run to examine. He used Fireangel, which makes sense as explosion immunity will really help you survive a bad VMRB hot start when bad hot starts are incredibly dangerous in AoI and free rocket jumps can substitute nicely for no Phase Devices. However, Fireangel itself giving no sort of offensive boost and being blocked SoB makes it a hard sell; your offense will be dreadful without getting Berserker and sidearming melee, while Fireangel has anti-synergy with Berserker when explosions (whether from enemies, barrels, or intentionally face rocketing yourself) can no longer trigger it. Papilio didn't give an attempt count (and he was doing the weird thing of backing up his player.wad whenever he died so his mortem doesn't show how many times he died), but he did claim it was "extremely hard" and killed the Mastermind with only a single hit point remaining, so I don't think this was the optimal build choice. I decided to go with Scavenger; aside from thinking it's the best Technician mastery even before its 0.9.9.8 buff (more mods, especially rare mods, is nice and Scavenger is the only Technician mastery without a serious downside to it), Scavenger has the neat trick where it effectively lets you bypass AoI not letting you store mods, as any mod you come across you can just put on a random weapon and dissemble it later with Scavenger to get the mod back, instead of being forced to use the mod on sub-optimal equipment.

For trait order, I leadoff with Finesse -> Juggler. Scavenger is a mastery whose power manifests later, so I can comfortably delay it for immediately useful traits, and of course the aforementioned leadoff is probably the strongest opener, which is especially going to be needed as I take on Hell's Arena. Then it's a level of SoB since rapids will be the primary source of firepower for any generalist build and making the Chaingun less awful will help in the aforementioned Hell's Arena. It's two levels of EE after that to start building towards Scavenger's Intuition prereq while farther buffing rapids and making the Chainsaw a better sidearm, but I deviate again from the prereq path to get a level of Hellrunner in case I roll Phobos Lab for the Phobos 7 special level. I then get Intuition not only for fulfilling the prereq, but its powerup detection is very important in AoI when you'll be largely relying on powerups for healing and immediately knowing where they are on any given floor will save runs. I once more deviate from the prereq path to get SoB2 as my offense is still feeling lacking, before the two Whizkid levels needed and finally Scavenger. Post-mastery it's Int2 so I don't need to radar shoot or wait spam as much, more Finesse is obvious, as well as another level of HR to help me beat the Cyberdemon. Traits after that are irrelevant, as you'll see later...

After some resets on Phobos Base Entry, I get one of the best floor 2s I can ask for, with it having a horizontal water river for easy corpse disposal and an early obtainable Computer Map, I nearly did the floor damageless. But after that is N! Hell's Arena that is especially brutal in AoI as you can't heal during it whatsoever, which aside from the general difficulty of that, it also means your ability to intentionally eat plasma/acid balls to destroy corpses is very limited, and no medkits also means you can only activate run once. My first run I didn't reset on Phobos Base Entry did end up dying in the third wave after I get hit by two high roll acid balls from a badly spawned Baron. You may want to skip Hell's Arena altogether or only kill some enemies in the first for EXP before leaving, but beating N! Hell's Arena in AoI or AoMs is necessary for the Chessmaster's Cross, and while I could save that for AoMs where it will be slightly easier since you can get fully healed with a well-timed level up, I do want the Rocket Launcher so I keep at it. And in just my second attempt I managed to clear Hell's Arena; coming in at nearly 200% after the aforementioned great Hell 2 was nice, but that extra health proved unnecessary.

Phobos 3 would be another easy floor... aside from me accidentally swapping to the Rocket Launcher and face rocketing myself when juggling Shotguns four fucking times. I got pretty tilted from repeating such a stupid costly error, but I was able to recompose and got through Phobos 4 and 5 without any issue. Then came the Unchained Court, which was scary to attempt when the only healing in AoI are the three Berserks that could be easily blown up, but it went so well that I cleared it with two Berserks to spare (only grabbing the Chainsaw once I aggro'd the Arena Master); having a competent Chaingun thanks to SoB + EE makes plinking away at the Barons stuck behind in the lava pools from the doorways more effective, and makes one-shotting the Formers are long range a lot more reliable, while having EE also makes chainsawing the Arena Master down more effective when you aren't missing half your hits. Being able to save those Berserks to take with me to the next floor proved very useful too, as Phobos 6 was a Cacodemon+Arachnotron cave which could have easily killed the run without the Berserk. After an unremarkable Phobos 7, I rolled Military Base instead of the Phobos Lab I got that level of HR for, I actually may have preferred Phobos Lab as Military Base is quite risky in AoI without the ability to gift drop the Elite Formers (can't use armor to gift drop them since they all spawn in a Green or Blue Armor by default), but through very careful play I avoid eating a run-ending close range SSG blast or Napalm rocket and get through it. In N! Phobos Anomaly, I just rocket jump through the ambush and the Bruisers, not attempting to fight back as no Commandos spawn on Phobos 6/7 and so I had no Plasma Rifle (and I was going to need one to remotely entertain the idea of fighting here with no healing outside the opening room), though I didn't have much choice after rocket jumping past the Bruisers when one of them funnily hit me into the portal.

Deimos 1 would start off interesting with a Butcher's Cleaver spawning, unfortunately as this is before Scavenger's 0.9.9.8 buff, I'm unable to dissemble it for a rare mod and so it sits in my inventory. Deimos Lab however would prove to be extremely lucrative; first the weapon cache had a Nuclear Plasma Rifle, I consider just leaving the Shamblers behind to not fumble this reward, but I do decide to take them on, especially as a few of the armor crates did drop Small Medkits that I could heal mid-fight without needing to make a mad dash to the Supercharges. Through Juggling overcharged Plasma Rifles, I'm able to defeat the Shamblers, and I get the coveted Onyx + Nano mod reward from the lab cache. With the Onyx I just immediately slap it on my Red Armor, with the Nano I had some deliberation on what to do with it, thanks to Scavenger I could store it on a Plasma Rifle and get it back later, but I decide to just put it the on the Nuclear Plasma Rifle rather than try to build towards a Nanomachic weapon or Antigrav Boots or save to Nano a Hyperblaster; with the Nano'd Nuclear Plasma Rifle instantly charging 4 cells after every shot, I can fire 10 consecutive times before it'll fully deplete its clip, and even after that it can still indefinitely fire 4-shot bursts if I'm unable to hold off on firing for a couple seconds to let it fully recharge, so it's nearly as good as a Nanomachic Plasma Rifle while retaining 4 more mod slots. I get WK2 not long after and finally build Tactical Boots, Tactical Shotgun, and a Hyperblaster I was holding off on so I could mod them. With those, the Nano'd Nuclear Plasma Rifle, and PO Red Armor, I blow through Deimos and clear Containment Area + Abyssal Plains without a hitch, with Scavenger turning one of those Missile Launchers into a Firestorm that I then put on my Hyperblaster for when I want more DPS than the Nuclear Plasma Rifle can manage. I do skip Halls Of Carnage however to end the Conqueror streak, as N! Halls Of Carnage would have been too dangerous in AoI without an exceptionally fast build, when I would have been unable to heal in the deadly maze full of Nightmare enemies and Barons. Tower Of Babel would give me a terrible Cyberdemon spawn where damage was unavoidable, but after escaping the corner I defeat him without going below 100% health.

Hell 1 would greet me with a relaxing Pain Elemental cave, though it has the downside of not giving me much EXP and so I'm unable to get one more level for the Fin3 I would have needed to outspeed the Angel of Death, thus having to skip Unholy Cathedral. Hell 2 would be a much more interesting floor however... First it's a Hellish Magic level, something I often go entire A100 games without seeing, so that's neat (and also dangerous, all those Commandos makes it a lot more threatening than any of the VMR-only levels), and it has a flood too to spice it up farther. But a Unique spawned... which turned out to be the Trigun! First thought is, with Scavenger, I can turn this into a second Nano, but then I remember I still don't got the Fallout Platinum Cross that I missed out on the last two times I got a Trigun, and there's a handy Invuln nearby to nuke rush the rest of the game while I have about three dozen rockets in my inventory for rocket jumping... The game was probably won regardless at this point with the equipment I had, but I take advantage of this opportunity and nuked the rest of Hell, using the remaining levels I got on Ironman to keep my max HP from going too low (including popping into The Vaults to get the very rare AoI Vaults clear that is only possible with overcharging a Nuclear weapon or Angel Arm while Invuln'd, I would rocket jump to the Unique that spawned here and it turned out to be Enviroboots). The Invuln would run out on Hell 7, but another spawned, so after carefully getting to it with my depleted health, I nuke Hell 7, Dis, and Hell Fortress for the easy win.

With that is Eagerness Diamond, alongside the Chessmaster's Cross and Fallout Platinum Cross (with those two medals checked, I'm now only three medals shy from getting all medals and thus Heroic Diamond, leaving only Untouchable Cross, Hell Arena Pwnage Medal, and Gutts' Heart). Well it's hard to fully accurately gauge the difficulty of the badge when I got to nuke the last third of it, and having such good equipment in the second third, but still this only took two attempts that didn't Q+Y on Phobos Base Entry, and the run never pressured me like Inquisitor Diamond or even Marksman Diamond did. If you go Scavenger to not let AoI limit your equipment potential, while it remains one of the harder Diamonds, I don't think Eagerness Diamond matches up to the top level Diamonds let papilio claimed. After this run, I'm also now at 20 Diamonds, joining I believe only Icy and papilio as the only players to have verifiably reached the big 2-0 Diamond count in 0.9.9.7. I'm going to be entering "don't get hit" and RNG hell for the remaining Diamonds however...

Here is the mortem:

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 wherearemymedkits2?,
 level 16 Cyberdemon Chaos Mjr General Technician,
 nuked the Mastermind at the Hell Fortress.
 He survived 740406 turns and scored 867932 points.
 He played for 4 hours, 39 minutes and 43 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 1752 out of 1775 hellspawn. (98%)
 He held his right to remain violent.
 He was an Angel of Impatience!

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 7
  Levels completed : 7

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (gold cluster)
  Aurora Medallion
  Fallout Platinum Cross
  Hell Armorer Badge
  Chessmaster's Token
  Chessmaster's Cross
  Hell Champion Medal
  Eagerness Diamond Badge

-- Graveyard -------------------------------------------------

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 50/25   Experience 135818/16
  ToHit Ranged +4  ToHit Melee +4  ToDmg Ranged +2  ToDmg Melee +2

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Technician

    Ironman          (Level 2)
    Finesse          (Level 2)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Son of a bitch   (Level 2)
    Eagle Eye        (Level 2)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Intuition        (Level 2)
    Whizkid          (Level 2)
    Scavenger        (Level 1)

  Fin->Jug->SoB->EE->EE->HR->Int->SoB->WK->WK->MSc->Int->Fin->HR->Iro->Iro->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   red armor [6] (OP)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   Trigun (3d6) [6/6]
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%) (A)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   shell box (x35)

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] shotgun (9d3) [1/1] (P1)
    [b] tactical shotgun (8d3) [5/5]
    [c] rocket launcher (6d6) [1/1] (B2)
    [d] hyperblaster (2d4)x5 [40/40] (F1)
    [e] nuclear plasma rifle (1d7)x6 [24/24] (N1)
    [f] Necroarmor [6/6] (100%)
    [g] chainsaw (4d6)
    [h] Butcher's Cleaver (5d6)
    [i] shotgun shell (x70)
    [j] shotgun shell (x70)
    [k] shotgun shell (x70)
    [l] shotgun shell (x70)
    [m] rocket (x4)
    [n] power cell (x70)
    [o] power cell (x55)
    [p] power cell (x70)
    [q] power cell (x70)
    [r] power cell (x70)
    [s] Enviroboots [0]
    [t] shell box (x100)
    [u] shell box (x100)
    [v] rocket box (x20)

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Acid       - internal 25%   torso 25%   feet 25% 
    Fire       - internal 25%   torso 50%   feet 25% 

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    233 former humans
    171 former sergeants
    114 former captains
    268 imps
    79 demons
    417 lost souls
    71 cacodemons
    38 hell knights
    46 barons of hell
    33 arachnotrons
    100 former commandos
    36 pain elementals
    25 revenants
    41 mancubi
    28 arch-viles
    8 nightmare imps
    18 nightmare demons
    7 elite former humans
    5 elite former sergeants
    7 elite former commandos
    2 shamblers
    1 agony elemental
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind
    1 John Carmack
    1 Arena Master

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 2 he entered Hell's Arena.
  He left the Arena as a champion!
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  He defeated the Hell Arena Master!
  On level 5 he found the Arena Master's Staff!
  On level 7 he marched into the Military Base.
  He purified his fellow comrades.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he found the Butcher's Cleaver!
  On level 9 he entered Deimos Lab.
  He destroyed the evil within and reaped the rewards!
  On level 11 he arrived at the Containment Area.
  On level 11 he assembled a tactical shotgun!
  On level 11 he assembled a hyperblaster!
  On level 11 he assembled a tactical boots!
  He emerged from the Containment Area victorious!
  On level 12 he romped upon the Abyssal Plains.
  He slaughtered the beasts living there.
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 18 he stumbled into a complex full of arch-viles!
  On level 18 he ran for his life from lava!
  On level 18 he found the Trigun!
  He activated the Angel Arm on level 18!
  He activated the Angel Arm on level 19!
  On level 19 he found the Necroarmor!
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  He activated the Angel Arm on level 19!
  On level 19 he found the Enviroboots!
  He managed to clear the Vaults completely!
  He activated the Angel Arm on level 20!
  He left level 20 as soon as possible.
  On level 21 he stumbled into a nightmare demon cave!
  He activated the Angel Arm on level 21!
  He left level 21 as soon as possible.
  He activated the Angel Arm on level 22!
  He left level 22 as soon as possible.
  He activated the Angel Arm on level 23!
  Then at last he found Dis!
  He activated the Angel Arm on level 24!
  He left level 24 as soon as possible.
  He defeated the Mastermind and found the TRUE EVIL!
  He activated the Angel Arm on level 25!
  Then finally in Hell itself, he killed the final EVIL.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 You prepare the rocket launcher instantly!
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : floor
 You reload the rocket launcher.
 Fire -- Choose target...
 You see : floor
 There are stairs leading downward here.
 You reload the rocket launcher. There are stairs leading downward here.
 This is it. This is the lair of all evil! What will you meet here?
 Use scroll to choose weapon, left button to wield, right to cancel... You
 wear/wield : a Trigun (3d6) [6/6]
 Do you want to use the dangerous Angel Arm?? [y/n]
 You activate the Angel Arm! Your life is drained! Congratulations! You
 defeated John Carmack! Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 304 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 110 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 96 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 7 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 90 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 7 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 48 killed the bitch and survived.
 35 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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 on: December 30, 2025, 01:53 
Started by Omega Tyrant - Last post by Omega Tyrant
And now this post will be for all the new badge proposals I added or revised, since it's going to be really long.

*Ensure every badge that requires a specific medal actually explicitly requires said medal.

This covers several different badges such as the Destroyer badges, I listed every one in the OP that is applicable, but simply if Dual Angels remain able to win badges from both challenges, this should be done to patch out the most blatant AoOC and AoCn abuse that clearly go against the badges' intended challenge.

*Make all Veteran Badges disallow AoMC, AoLT, AoCn, and AoOC.

Currently the Veteran Badges can be won in any sort of game mode, which is ok, there should be some badges with freedom on how you win them, but these four challenges in particular make the Veteran Badges much easier to win. In particular, this has contributed to Veteran Diamond being the most won Diamond according to the 0.9.9.7 Badge Hunters Thread, with a whopping 18 people winning it, and then Veteran Angelic is the 2nd most won Angelic after the infamously easy Shottyman Angelic, with 13 people recorded winning it, which is also more common than all but six of the Diamond Badges. That was in 0.9.9.7, but nothing was changed about these particular challenges that would prevent them from still making these badges much easier, other than AoOC being made slightly harder with a weaker starting loadout. You can conversely argue however that it's ok to have a few easier Diamonds and Angelics, so I won't push hard on this one.

*Make Armorer Gold, Platinum, and Diamond a less horrendous grind.

Aside from the unwinnable ones, the absolute worst-designed badges are these three, not only having very little skill involved in obtaining them, but they also require an atrociously long grind if you play naturally, and trying to force them any faster would require running several A666 games, while you should obtain most or literally every other badge in their respective classes before getting these Armorer badges. For examples:

  • When I was doing my 100% 0.9.9.8 attempt, I obtained every other Gold and 15 Platinums before Armorer Gold, I had to run an A666 game to force getting Armorer Gold else it would have taken me who knows how many more non-A100/666 games to get it.
  • When I stopped playing said 0.9.9.8 file, I had 18 Platinums while still being 357 specials away from Armorer Platinum, so realistically I could have easily won the 7 other remaining Platinums long before getting Armorer Platinum. Even running A100/666 games wouldn't speed it up that much, since each special item only gets counted once per run, so even if I did found every special item in each run, it would still take at last a half dozen A666 games to win Armorer Platinum at this point.
  • When it comes to Armorer Diamond, on my 0.9.9.7 file, over the course of 299 recorded games, including over a dozen A100 games and 3 completed A666 games, I still do not have Armorer Diamond! According to my play time, I got nearly a thousand hours clocked in (938:02:49:35 to be exact with my play time), assume half that time was the game running idle and it's still absurd I do not have Armorer Diamond yet with that much play time. Depending on how stingy the game's RNG wants to keep being with dropping the last Subtle Knife I need for this awful badge, I could very realistically get all the 6 other Diamonds I do not have yet and even get all the remaining 5 winnable Angelics before I get Armorer Diamond, and I only started actively going for all these badges in this version last month!

These badges theoretically serve as "easy" badges that players of any skill level can get, since only Azrael's Scythe actually requires you to play above ITYTD to get it, but their requirements are so absurdly high, that no lower level players will ever play remotely enough to get these higher level Armorer Badges. For reference, according to the aforementioned Badge Hunters thread, in over a decade of 0.9.9.7, only two players ever reported actually earning Armorer Diamond; Tormuse and Icy, i.e. two of the most legendary and hardcore DRL players, and according to the mortems, it was well over 1000 games for Tormuse before he won it, while in Icy's case, it was over 2000 games, not to mention Icy is also a heavy A100/666 player too. We can all agree the grind for these badges is unreasonable, right? Also the more special items that get added, the grind for Gold and Diamond will get even worse (while these badges shouldn't be a factor against adding more special items to the game). For what to exactly do with these badges:

  • Change Armorer Gold to collecting 100 total special items. This is a much less giant jump compared to the Silver requirement of a mere 30 total special items, and a player good enough to start winning Gold badges should shortly add it to their Gold collection.
  • Change Armorer Platinum to collecting 300 total special items. I contemplated the 500 that JHC has for its Armorer Platinum, but I think 300 is more reasonable (Silver gets you a tenth of the way there and Gold gets you one-third), and players capable of winning Platinums won't have this badge delaying them getting all Platinums as long as the 500 or especially 1000 requirement would.
  • Change Armorer Diamond to collecting 1 of every special item and 500 total. There's just no reason for why you should need to collect more than 1 of each special item for Armorer Diamond, what does a player prove by finding the Dragonslayer two more additional times after their first time finding it? The secondary requirement ensures you can't win Armorer Diamond before the Platinum.

*Increase Lightfoot Bronze's floor requirement to level 16.

I mean this is a Bronze so who really cares, but since AoLT is one of the easiest challenges, it doesn't quite make sense that its Bronze has a floor requirement of 9 like some of the other harder challenges, especially when it's braindead easy to just run through Phobos on HNTR with AoLT's speed boost without even trying to fight back, so I feel it makes more sense for Lightfoot Bronze to have a slightly harder requirement like the other easier challenges.

*Decrease Quartermaster Bronze's floor requirement to level 9.

Conversely, Quartermaster Bronze should be made easier, as AoRA is one of the harder challenges, that people tend to notoriously struggle with their first time playing it, so it also makes no sense that it has one of the harder Bronze requirements. Again this is just Bronze badges so it feels nitpicky, but the requirement of Quartermaster and Lightfoot Bronze are inverse to their challenge's respective difficulties.

*Bump Marksman Gold's difficulty down to HMP.

It never made much sense to me that the Marksman series skipped HMP and jumped straight to UV for Marksman Gold, especially when AoMr wasn't an easy challenge. In fact back in 0.9.9.7, I would say Marksman Gold was the hardest Gold badge, because being locked to pistols on UV was so brutal. The 0.10 SoG change reversing pistols' early games woes did made AoMr a lot easier, but I still think it doesn't justify skipping straight to UV, and regardless if you're able to beat AoMr on UV, you should be able to jump straight to the Platinum requirement and beat it with 100% kills. So for more clear delineation in the difficulty between the Gold and Platinum, this change should be made.

*Give Lightfoot Gold the additional requirement of beating AoLT in under 40000 turns.

As mentioned previously, AoLT is one of easiest challenges, and its Gold just requiring beating HMP with no additional requirement made it one of the easiest Golds. Adding the stipulation of winning in under 40000 turns makes sense to me, to both spice up Lightfoot Gold a bit and to also have a natural progression towards Lightfoot Platinum requiring winning in under 20000 turns.

*Give Daredevil Gold the additional requirement of getting 100% kills.

One of the super free Golds currently is Daredevil Gold. It's infamous how you can just spam quick AoOC games until you get lucky, and on HNTR, you don't even need much luck to get a game where you can easily run to the Mastermind with barely any fighting and then nuke her. I can run pacifist games in HNTR AoOC and easily get the luck needed to win in under 30 minutes. I would say Daredevil Silver is actually much less easy, since you can't so easily rush through it and will have to get through a boss you can't just nuke without Invuln. I think Daredevil Gold should be given a 100% kills stipulation; it would probably still be one of the easiest Golds, but at least this requirement will make players have to play through it more honestly and not just try rushing to the Mastermind with a nuke or Berserker (while also meaning they can't enter Mortuary/Limbo just to snag a free nuke unless they actually clear it).

*Change Arena Gold's requirement to beating it on UV in AoRA.

Prior to 0.10, Arena Gold had a well balanced requirement, since beating it in AoMr on UV was tough but not exceedingly so. However after SoG's change in 0.10 and pistols becoming far better in the early game as a result, beating Hell's Arena in AoMr is far easier, and so this is now overly easy for a Gold badge. What to change the requisite challenge to was a bit hard to decide; AoSh has it even easier, AoMC and AoLT would make this completely free, Hell's Arena is only slightly harder in AoP with it just making you come in with less health and no Berserk/Light Goggles, AoB is already used for the Diamond, AoD would make this harder than Arena Platinum, AoHu would be a bit much, AoPc is obviously unviable, and AoI and/or AoMs would be a good replacement but they already have a medal (Chess Master's Token) for this exact requirement. That leaves AoRA, which would actually be a great replacement challenge, since beating UV Hell's Arena in AoRA is quite tough and requires some luck (especially if you don't get Hellrunner and Reloader), but it shouldn't be harder for players to do than beating Hell's Arena on N! as the Platinum badge requires. Also it would be fun to encourage beating Hell's Arena in a quick manner.

*Perhaps give Longinus Gold an additional stipulation, such as no Berserker and Malicious Blades?

Yet one more super free Gold badge is Longinus Gold, beating Unholy Cathedral is incredibly mindless for any lategame melee build, and even low level melee builds in AoOC can very easily beat it. It just makes no sense that beating Unholy Cathedral gives you the same tier of badge as beating Mortuary/Limbo does, at least The Vaults also giving a Gold badge for just beating it can be justified by it being tricky to figure out without looking it up and needing to beat two prior special levels to do so. Not to mention that it is also much easier to get than the special level Silvers. Giving it the additional stipulation of disallowing Berserker and Malicious Blades would mean players wouldn't just be able to mindlessly steamroll through it with typical melee builds, but unlike the harder Longinus badges, they would still be allowed Brute. Maybe you could add a Bronze and Silver tier to the Longinus series, with the Bronze badge being to simply enter Unholy Cathedral and leave it alive, while the Silver badge can be to just beat it with any traits, and then the Gold can be this proposed requirement, which along with the proposed Platinum requirement, all seems like a much more natural badge progression than how the Longinus series currently is (why is there no Longinus Bronze and Silver to begin with?).

*Change Berserker Platinum's kill requirement to Explorer Pin.

It was proposed previously to just remove Berserker Platinum's kill requirement given the similarity to Gargulec Cross, and beating UV AoB on its own would be an ok Platinum-level challenge, but it would be rather mundane for a Platinum Badge, while you would still be doubling up Berserker Platinum with any Gargulec Cross run. So perhaps give it an Explorer requirement to spice it up, while also making doubling it up with Gargulec Cross a more complicated endeavor, as entering any special levels would mean having to kill everything in them to keep Gargulec Cross alive (or at least everything before additional waves spawn in). I additionally think it would tie in nicely to the proposed new Berserker Diamond requirement of beating N! AoB with no special levels visited.

*Change Shottyman Platinum's requirement to beating it on UV in under 40000 turns.

Shottyman Platinum isn't glaringly imbalanced but has two particular issues, first if you're able to beat AoSh on N!, then doing so with 80% kills for the Diamond isn't meaningfully more difficult and so players would nearly always get the Platinum + Diamond together, and secondly it's just a boring Platinum. With what I'm about to propose for Shottyman Diamond though, I think Shottyman Platinum would make more sense and be more interesting with its difficulty requirement being bumped down to UV, but now have the additional requirement of beating AoSh in under 40000 turns. This would not only have a more natural progression to the proposed new Shottyman Diamond requirement, it would also give players another Platinum they can get without playing N!, but having to play through UV at such a fast pace will make it sufficiently more difficult than the Gold.

*Give Centurial Platinum the additional requirement of getting Experience Medal.

Centurial Platinum is fine as it is and the vast majority of Centurial Platinum runs probably incidentally got the Experience Medal anyway, this will just have a better progression to the proposed Centurial Diamond change of beating N! A100 with an Experience Cross.

*Change UAC Diamond to require only UV, disallow Berserker, or do both.

While UAC Diamond looks imposing at first, it is actually a very easy Diamond, that is easier than at least half the Platinums, with the badge having the clear obvious optimal strategy of rushing through the game with a melee Scout that anyone can copy and 20 minutes being a surprisingly generous time limit when you're rushing through the game berserked most of the time. According to the Badge Hunters thread, this was one of the most won Diamonds in 0.9.9.7 with a dozen people winning it, and if you look at the mortems, they all cleared the 20 minute requirement by several minutes at least, with the majority being under 15 minutes and some even almost getting under 10 minutes. It was suggested that this could be a 0.9.9.7 thing and changes since then would make it harder, but after running it in 0.10, I got a 11:17 first try without even trying hard to be fast with my physical inputs and making some serious time-losing flubs. The berserk nerf does make it more difficult to survive rushing through the game, but the game engine itself becoming faster counterbalances this and it wouldn't take many resets to get the luck needed to not die during a melee rush. An unusual idea to buff this badge's difficulty would be to make it strictly require UV, as speedrunning through the game on UV would actually be harder without N!'s doubled powerups/healing and faster levelling. Alternatively, you just disallow Berserker, as getting to Chained Court ASAP and rushing through the rest of the game with Berserker is the one clear dominant strategy for speedruns, and any time limit that would make this a reasonably difficult Diamond-level challenge for Berserker builds would be unreasonably difficult or even impossible for non-Berserker builds. If you want to be extra sure with making this a Diamond-worthy challenge, you can do both the UV-only and no Berserker requirements.

*Change Shottyman Diamond's kill requirement to beating it on N! in under 20000 turns.

JHC's Shottyman Diamond equivalent got the new much more interesting requirement of beating N! AoSh in under 20000 turns. This ended up being terrible for JHC, as due to that game's different structuring that makes JHC longer and much harder to rush through, beating the game on N! that fast with purely shotguns is probably impossible or close to it, and even Sereging it with a Berserker build requires a ridiculous amount of luck. With DRL's structure being conductive to much faster playthroughs however, this requirement would actually work well here for a Diamond-worthy challenge. There was some concern given that it could still be unreasonably tight even in DRL, but I would prove it was possible with a UAC Diamond run in under 20K turns that was essentially shotguns only, and that was in 0.9.9.7 before the Reloader and Gunrunner buffs that would make this less difficult, as well as under real time pressure that invariably caused many turn-inefficient moves. Plus kill requirements are boring and overdone, so more varied badge requirements would be appreciated.

*Give Marksman Diamond the additional requirement of getting the Explorer Pin.

Marksman Diamond was fine previously, as despite being only one of two Angel-related Diamonds with no secondary requirement (the other being Centurial Diamond), it was actually one of the hardest Diamonds in 0.9.9.7/0.9.9.8 to get purely because of how much pistols sucked, particularly in the early game. They sucked so much that the people who got it through Sereging basically just played it as a pseudo-pacifist run and didn't even bother trying to actually use the pistols. With 0.10's SoG change however, while pistols became weaker in the lategame, they became far far better in the early game and better in the mid game too, so AoMr is overall easier now. Thus an additional stipulation should be added to keep this badge an appropriate Diamond-level challenge, with the idea being to make it require Explorer, as being pistol-locked would especially complicate getting out of the newly added Toxin Refinery/Central Processing, Military Base/Phobos Lab, Abyssal Plains, Halls Of Carnage, and of course Mortuary/Limbo. The upcoming suggestion to change Hunter Diamond would also mean Explorer will be unused as a secondary Diamond requirement.

*Change Inquisitor Diamond's Marine-only requirement to disallowing Ironman and Tough as Nails.

Inquisitor Diamond was one of the most fearsome Diamond badges in 0.9.9.7, with only four people recorded winning it (Sereg, Icy, papilio, and myself, the latter two being the only ones who did it purely). In 0.10 however it's far easier, with the main culprit being the currently OP Survivalist, that even if the Marine-only restriction didn't exist, would be the perfect mastery for significantly nerfing this challenge. My first thought was to disallow Survivalist even if it gets its proposed nerfs, but it would be awfully restrictive to require a specific class and ban one of their masteries on top. I was thinking though, the Marine-only restriction doesn't hit as hard anymore due to the Marine getting the inherent energy-resistances passive, so the Marine in AoP isn't so disadvantaged, and all the Marine's non-Vampyre masteries got buffed too. So instead of having the Marine-only restriction, allow any class but disallow Ironman and Tough as Nails; one of the primary things that makes AoP so difficult is the player's health supply being severely reduced to only medkits and being unable to repair armor without risky levers or rare mods, so traits that let you get more health back from medkits and give you inherent defenses are a lot more valuable, making these traits pivotal to nerfing the threat of AoP (especially so when both of these traits are much better than they were in 0.9.9.7). Banning TaN will additionally prevent the use of Survivalist regardless of its OPness, and it would prevent Entrenchment, which would probably be the second best mastery choice for AoP after Survivalist. Probably still wouldn't be as brutal as 0.9.9.7 Inquisitor Diamond was, but this change should make it go back to being one of the harder Diamonds instead of one of the easiest.

*Change Hunter Diamond's Explorer requirement to disallowing Intuition.

Hunter Diamond's Explorer requirement didn't really add much to its difficulty and seemed rather tacked on. Meanwhile if you run Cateye, which you could get as early as floor 3 with the insane EXP rate of N! AoD, the primary hurdle of the challenge got negated and you'll just be essentially playing a normal N! game with no map memory as a masterless Scout, except with a doubled EXP rate that makes it actually easier than standard N!. Even with just Intuition 2, you significantly nerf the main threat of vision reduction, and Intuition 1 helps too by letting you still see powerup locations despite Computer Maps no longer working. It seems very obvious to me that a no Intuition requirement would be far more fitting and difficult for Hunter Diamond than the Explorer requirement is (an Intuition ban would also prevent the use of Cateye). If either iteration of the proposed Hunter Angelic gets added, it too should get the no Intuition requirement for the same reasoning.

*Increase Daredevil Diamond's kill requirement to 100%.

As explained with Daredevil Gold, the nature of AoOC makes it easy to just spam quick runs until you get lucky, and while Daredevil Diamond has an 80% kill requirement to make you have to at least kill things, this is still easy to achieve rushing through the game, in addition to giving you the leeway to completely skip an overly bad floor or two, such as any Arachnotron or Nightmare Demon caves. It also doesn't make sense that while Elite Diamond requires beating the entire standard game on N! with 90+% kills, you got another Diamond requiring you to beat a third of the game with a smaller kill percent requirement. Plus with the change of respawns no longer counting towards kill percent, the hurdle of lacking corpse disposal no longer matters (not that the difficulty of disposing corpses even mattered previously when nearly two dozen people won Daredevil Diamond across all pre-0.10 versions).

*Change Speedrun Angelic's real time requirement to under 8 minutes.

Icy and I previously agreed that this infamous unwinnable badge should have its requirement bumped up to 10 or even 12 minutes. However when looking at the UAC Diamond times, I found several people came close to getting their UAC Diamond run in under 10 minutes. while I found a run by papilio that got under 10 minutes and a run by Sereg that got under 9 minutes. This is on top of DRL getting engine improvements that makes it play faster since those 0.9.9.7 runs (particularly mitigating all the pauses whenever the game renders projectiles flying around). And as mentioned previously, I got a run nearly under 11 minutes first try despite not trying to play as physically fast as possible and getting some clearly lousy early game level luck (getting any early maze with stairs on the opposite end would make you reset on any serious Speedrun Angelic attempt). 4 minutes is still completely out of the question, but I think 8 minutes will be a reasonable threshold that will be extremely difficult while not venturing into "spin the slot machine thousands of times until you win" territory for top level players, and so will be revising the proposal to that.

*Remove Marksman Angelic's kill requirement and replace it with disallowing Cateye.

As I ranted about under Hunter Diamond, Cateye just significantly neuters Angel of Darkness, and indeed everyone who has won Marksman Angelic did so with Cateye despite it not even being a Pistol mastery. This wasn't so bad in 0.9.9.7 when pistols sucked so badly and needed any sort of buoy thrown to them, and said pistol suckiness made it extremely hard to survive long enough with reduced vision even with doubled EXP to reach Cateye, especially as you needed to get SoG3 first to have any chance and thus delaying Cateye. But as also explained prior, pistols are a lot better now with the SoG change, especially in the early game, and so surviving long enough in AoD to get Cateye is no longer such an arduously excruciating task. As such, the pointless kill requirement should instead be replaced with disallowing Cateye, forcing players to engage with this badge the intended way and encouraging more varied builds (you could also just ban Intuition too like was proposed for Hunter Diamond/Angelic, but I think you can leave Intuition allowed as a mercy, as even if you know enemies are right outside your vision, pistols are still heavily disadvantaged when they can't fire back against these enemies without the out-of-vision accuracy penalty).

*If Angel of Drought is added, change Shottyman Angelic to beating AoSh + AoDr on N!

This is preemptive, but if the proposed Angel of Drought does get added, I think the notoriously easy Shottyman Angelic could instead be spruced up by replacing AoOC with AoDr in the requisite Dual Angel combo. It would need testing after that to determine an appropriate kill requirement if any (or perhaps if 100% kills is feasible), but this would be an obviously more fitting asynergistic combo than AoSh + AoOC (which frankly never made much sense), and I basically already did this in JHC with 100% kills to boot in that bugged beta version for one of my most tense runs ever in either game. Also there probably should be an additional stipulation that disallows building Nano-shrapnel, because otherwise the dominant strategy would be resetting until you get a Nano mod in Hell's Armory/Deimos Lab (or find one randomly) to then build a Nano-shrapnel Shotgun that invalidates the challenge (could still apply a Nano raw to a shotgun, but aside from the Plasma Shotgun, raw Nanoing shotguns doesn't work well with their limited or non-existent clips and so you'll still need other shotguns loaded to kill most enemies).

*Revising the proposed Daredevil Angelic to clearing AoOC + AoP with 100% kills.

When Icy originally proposed Daredevil Angelic, it was an AoOC + AoD combo, but when thinking of it now, Angel of Purity is clearly the far more asynergistic combo with AoOC, when successful AoOC runs heavily depend on powerups. Even when Sereg and Icy Sereg'd Inquisitor Diamond, it took them several hundreds of tries and of course both finished with abysmal kill percents. As such, I'm revising the proposal to replace AoD with AoP.

*Add Gatekeeper Angelic, which requires clearing Phobos Anomaly, Tower of Babel, and Hell Fortress all damageless on N! in a single run.

When I originally brought up the idea of Gatekeeper Angelic, Icy shot it down as being too easy for an Angelic. The original suggestion was Anomaly + Babel + Dis, and while the Mastermind should be no longer so easy to beat damageless with its AI change + possibly impending flinching threshold buff, I think it would be better to replace Dis with Hell Fortress. Aside from being more difficult, it makes more sense for an Angelic anyway to require no damaging the true final boss. The only caveat is this badge should only be added if the proposal of having Hell Fortress turn off powerups when you enter it is implemented, as otherwise, it would be too easy and cheesy to just find an Invuln in Hell then rush to Hell Fortress to kill Carmack damageless with Invulnerability (maybe have the badge require not using the Lava Element too so you can't use it to kill Carmack damageless with a high DPS build?). Also of course nuking any of these three levels should disqualify you from earning the badge.

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 on: December 29, 2025, 16:16 
Started by Omega Tyrant - Last post by Omega Tyrant
Since the last post got long, I'm putting all the new medal suggestions here:

*Ensure all medals and badges that require beating a specific special level do not count nuking

This is how it works normally, but there seems to be several exceptions where such a medal/badge does not disqualify nuking, such as the various Hell Arena medals, the Hell Armory/Deimos Medals, Every Soldier's Medal, and Spider-Killer Cross. So these should all be checked and a no nuke exemption should be added to each lacking one.

*With the Fallout and Klear Crosses, do not count multiple nukes activated on the same floor as separate instances of nuking

Something that seems unintended and certainly doesn't make sense is that setting off multiple nukes on the same floor will count as separate instances of nuking. Notably, if you get the Trigun at any point of the game, once you get invulnerability you can keep spamming Angel Arm on the same floor to rack up the nuke counter for an easily cheesed Fallout Platinum and Klear Cross, such as I did in this run, which does not seem to be in the spirit of the medals and certainly doesn't resemble the actual run inspiring Klear Cross, where Klear actually nuked over half the game's levels. So while it would make these already annoying-to-get medals even harder, such a blatant exploit should be fixed.

*Add a new medal called "Sereg's Medallion", for completing Angel of 100 on UV or N! in under 1 hour of real time.

One of the coolest feats I seen on here was Sereg completing A100 on N! in under an hour, and Icy would later perform that feat as well, so a medal commemorating it and encouraging more people to speedrun A100 would be neat, while it would also work as a harder version of the "Marathon Medal" that Game Hunter suggested long ago. While Sereg and Icy did it on N!, and it would make sense to require only N!, I think UV should be allowed for the medal, since it would probably actually be harder to perform this feat on UV without the doubled powerups and the slower leveling.

*Add a new medal called "Tormuse's Medallion", for completing an Angel of Humanity + Angel of 100 Dual Angel challenge.

Another very cool feat was when it was discovered that Thomas' Medal and Everyman Platinum/Diamond didn't actually require the Conqueror Pin back in 0.9.9.7 and so could be could be earned in AoCn/AoOC or even A100, Tormuse gave it a try and successfully pulled off a AoH + Ao100 UV run. This wasn't in the spirit of what Thomas' Medal and the Everyman badges require, but it's arguably an even tougher feat than doing a normal Everyman Diamond run, and basically no one would dream of trying an AoH + A100 run, so I think it should get recognition with a new medal, while also encouraging people to actually try this Dual Angel combo. Tormuse did it on UV and I would be ok with a UV/N! requirement too, but I'm also ok with no difficulty requirement to make this medal less daunting for players to earn themselves.

*Add more special level-related medals.

Currently the medals tied to special levels are very weird in their distribution; you got a whopping five of them for Hell's Arena, then Hell's Armory/Deimos Lab and Mortuary/Limbo have two each (that are just a basic "beat this special level" and "beat this special level damageless" medal), then you randomly got "Every Soldier's Medal" and "Spider-Killer Cross" for beating The Wall/Containment Area and Spider's Lair respectively in Angel of Humanity, and that's it. I'm assuming there were more such medals planned at some point (based on Game Hunter's comments about wanting to add a lot of new medals) and this weird distribution is just the result of an in-development game getting its old dev team disbanded after development was shelved for a decade, because otherwise this distribution of them makes no sense. I encourage people to share their own ideas for new special level medals, here are ideas I have:

  • "Secret Hunter" - Exit Toxin Refinery through its secret exit.
  • "DSDA Gold Medal" - Exit Toxin Refinery or Central Processing on UV in under a minute of real time (but disqualify if the player uses a Phase or Homing Phase Device).
  • "DSDA Platinum Medal" - Exit Toxin Refinery or Central Processing on N! in under a minute of real time (but disqualify if the player uses a Phase or Homing Phase Device).
  • "Chainless Token" - Clear and exit The Chained Court without picking up the Chainsaw.
  • "Blind Gladiator" - Clear The Unchained Court in Angel of Darkness.
  • "Blind Champion" - Clear The Unchained Court on UV+ in Angel of Darkness.
  • "Tyson Medal" - Clear Military Base in Angel of Berserk without running out the Enraged Timer.
  • "Grandmaster Tyson" - Clear Military Base on N! in Angel of Berserk without running out the Enraged timer.
  • "Demon's Jaw" - If Angel of Turbo is added as a challenge, add this medal for clearing Phobos Lab on UV+ in Angel of Turbo.
  • "Nightmare Demon's Jaw" - Clear Phobos Lab on UV+ in ArchAngel of Turbo.
  • "id Memento" - Clear Hell's Armory/Deimos Lab in Angel of Red Alert.
  • "Silver Shell Box" - If Angel of Drought is added as a challenge, add this medal for clearing City of Skulls/Abyssal Plains in Angel of Drought.
  • "Empty Shell Box" - Clear City of Skulls/Abyssal Plains on UV/N! in Angel of Drought.
  • "Charred Watch" - Clear Halls Of Carnage in Angel of Impatience.
  • "Loaded Backpack" - Clear The Vaults in Angel of Light Travel.
  • "Relic Of Pain" - Clear House Of Pain without using the Arena Master's Staff in Angel of Masochism.
  • "Gordian Ribbon" - Clear Unholy Cathedral by nuking and exit alive (not really a challenge but the funny simplest solution to beating Unholy Cathedral without a melee build whenever you can do it).
  • "Temporal Relic" - Clear The Mortuary/Limbo in Angel of Purity.
  • "Pacifist Star" - Exit The Mortuary/Limbo alive without any enemies dying, including respawns, but disqualify if any sort of Phasing device is used.
  • "Biohazard Medal" - If Angel of Pestilence is added as a challenge, add this medal for clearing The Lava Pits/Mt. Erebus on UV+ in Angel of Pestilence.
  • "Biohazard Cross" - Clear The Lava Pits/Mt. Erebus on UV+ in Archangel of Pestilence.

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 on: December 28, 2025, 22:38 
Started by Omega Tyrant - Last post by Omega Tyrant
I added bunch of new proposals over time but didn't make a post explaining the rationale behind them, so I'm gonna explain them in this post.

*Buff the Tristar Blaster's damage to 4d6

The Tristar Blaster is an unusual Exotic weapon that barely gets any use, due to being a cumbersome and dangerous ammo-hungry weapon that doesn't synergize well with any particular build other than Fireangel, and even if you try to use it, it's not even that strong and so the reward for using it properly is underwhelming; you'll probably deal out more cumulative damage against a horde with a single BFG shot than you would with three Tristar Blaster shots that consume even more cells. It's hard to adequately buff this weapon due to the aforementioned asynergy, so you could give it a slight damage buff to make it somewhat more rewarding to actually use, with it being possible for it to actually score one-shots against tougher enemies (4d6 would also have it actually match Mancubus rockets in damage output, and the Tristar Blaster is supposed to be a weaponized version of their attack).

*Buff Blood Skulls to give 10 HP per gibbed corpse.

Blood Skulls don't sound so bad on paper, with healing you by 5 HP per each corpse gibbed around you and being able to overheal you. The problem though is that in order for a Blood Skull to just match a Large Medkit in efficacy for players with default max HP, you need to gib 10 corpses, and outside of Mortuary/Limbo, you're going to have a hard time getting 10 corpses within a 8 x 8 radius, especially not without the corpses getting gibbed in crossfire, and it's gonna be even unlikelier in the sort of situations where you do want to heal. Then as a Marine or for each level of Ironman, you'll need an additional 2 corpses to match the Large Medkit, and you can forget about healing up to 200% with a Blood Skull as good fucking luck getting 20+ corpses packed near each other on any normal floor. As a result, you'll usually only carry a Blood Skull on you if you're short on Large Medkits, and will ditch it as soon as you get 4+ Large Medkits again, while they're also far less desirable for Mortuary/Limbo than Hatred Skulls and even Fire Skulls. Buffing Blood Skulls to give 10 HP per corpse makes sense to me, 5 corpses for a full heal at default max HP and 10 corpses for 200% makes them a lot more usable on normal floors, and as an Exotic, they shouldn't be beaten by the standard Large Medkit so easily, while this would hardly affect their usage in Mortuary/Limbo.

*Decrease Charch's Null Pointer ammo consumption to 5 cells per shot

Another very unusual weapon is Charch's Null Pointer, that sees even less usage than the Tristar Blaster. The Null Pointer has a theoretical niche where you can stunlock a threatening enemy to death with it, but requiring a whopping 10 cells just to inflict 10 damage to a single enemy, the critical issue is it simply consumes too much ammo for that to be worthwhile in all but the most extreme niche of situations, as it'll require an entire cell stack or more to kill anything bigger than a Cacodemon. As such, the ammo consumption should be decreased to 5 cells per shot, which would still be awfully ammo inefficient for killing enemies (in comparison, 5 Plasma Rifle bolts with no SoB would deal 20 damage on average, twice as much as the Null Pointer), but the ammo consumption won't be so out of whack with what it does and so it could maybe not be such a terribly disappointing find. Alternatively, per Clamp's suggestion, you could make it a self-charging weapon so it has more clear utility without such crippling ammo consumption, while also simultaneously preventing the player from stunlocking bosses to death since they wouldn't be able to manually reload it.

*Buff the Subtle Knife farther

Invoke was buffed in 0.9.9.8 by no longer draining max HP and dealing 15 plasma damage to all in-vision enemies instead of 10. This effect though is still very underwhelming, basically just being a slightly better Arena Master Staff that will one-shot Imps and Lost Souls, but won't gib Formers, and the Subtle Knife itself is woefully weak for a Unique, as such it's still a near-worthless Unique even before considering being so damn annoyingly rare. When doing research on the Subtle Knife's inspiration, how the Subtle Knife works in DRL doesn't make much sense, where in its titular book, it is supposed to be a weapon capable of harming intangible supernatural beings and god, while its "reality cutting" ability manifests as creating dimensional doorways, which isn't reflected by the Subtle Knife being a puny 3d5 weapon with no special ability nor by how Invoke works. Invoke draining max HP before was the only thing that made sense for its inspiration, as the actual Subtle Knife is supposed to mutilate its user's hand. As such, I want to propose the following changes to make the Subtle Knife actually worth it as a Unique and to be better faithful to its inspiration:

  • Reduce the Subtle Knife's damage to 2d5 but have it deal tripled damage to any non-former nor non-cybernetic enemy (cybernetic enemies would include Arachnotrons and their Nightmare variant, Mancubi and their Nightmare variant, Revenants and their Nightmare variant, the Cyberdemon, and the Spider Mastermind), representing its ability to kill supernatural beings (and have its damage bonus work on Carmack too to represent its god-killing ability).
  • Change Invoke completely, instead having it work as a Homing Phase while draining 5 max HP on use (2 max HP instead if in A100/666), with a minimum 10 max HP requirement to use it, representing its ability to let its user create dimensional portals and the self-mutilation of its use. If the old effect of Invoke must be kept, still bring back the 2 max HP reduction but it make much stronger, such as having it instantly kill and gib all enemies in vision that aren't a boss monster.

The first change would give the Subtle Knife a more clearer usecase for melee builds, as it'll be able to hit a large chunk of enemies at Spear or even Scythe damage levels, and exceed even farther beyond that for Malicious Blades, but there will still be a large contingent of threatening enemies that the Subtle Knife would be no stronger than a vanilla Combat Knife against, so it wouldn't obsolete other melee weapons. The second change of a reusable Homing Phase has obvious use to any build, but the max HP cost, aside from being faithful to the source material, prevents it from outclassing the Hell Staff and ensures players can't so easily skip the entirety of the remaining game (especially if they don't have a means to easily kill the Mastermind), just make the max HP drain less severe in A100/666 given the much greater amount of floors makes it a lot more relatively punishing. If the alternative Invoke change is done instead, it'll at least have more clear usefulness as an emergency instant kill button with a cost than it does as a slightly better Arena Master Staff with a negligible cost. If these changes are done, it still should be able to spawn sooner and have a weight of 2 to not be so absurdly rare, especially if melee weapons continue to be unable to spawn in vaults, but maybe with a minimum depth of 12 rather than the originally proposed 7.

*Make Azrael's Scythe "Whisper Of Death" alt-fire require a minimum of over 5 max HP to use

Oddly, while the Trigun's Angel Arm has a minimum >10 max HP to use, the Scythe's Whisper Of Death has no minimum max HP requirement, and so even as you decrease your max HP to 5, you can keep spamming it indefinitely as long as you can restore your tactics. While running around with only 5 max HP is extremely hazardous, this can be abused to cheese several lategame levels, particularly in Angel of Humanity, as was exploited in this Everyman Diamond run.

*Allow the Mastermind to appear in very deep levels of A100/666?

Alongside adding the Angel of Death to A100, I was thinking the Mastermind could still work as a lategame spawn, since it is basically just a big Nightmare Arachnotron with weird AI and isn't exceedingly powerful, while in Doom 2, the Mastermind got used as a normal enemy in several levels. If this is done, you should naturally create Mastermind + Arachnotrons and Mastermind + Nightmare Arachnotrons groups, and perhaps also add a new cave type with only Masterminds. You'll just need to lower its Danger value to like 40, 35, or even 30 to match the Cyberdemon, as 50 would make it give too much EXP and significantly cut into other enemy spawns, while it's not strong enough to merit such a high danger level.

*Allow melee weapons and boots to spawn in vaults

A weird oddity is that melee weapons and boots cannot spawn in vaults, which ends up making special boots and especially special melee weapons harder to come by than special armors and ranged weapons. The reasoning I was told was if they did, vaults would get flooded with useless Combat Knives and Steel Boots, which makes sense, but it should be possible now to exclude specifically Combat Knives and Steel Boots from spawning in vaults, right? If it's not possible, then I suppose it is better that this restriction remain to keep vaults more fruitful, but if it is possible, then I see no reason to continue keeping this restriction with vaults. If this is done, you could maybe add Protective Boots to the restriction list too since they would be useless more often than not and you can already get early Protective Boots from armor crates.

*Add a new Unique called "Big Fucking Shotgun", a 40d5 plasma shotgun with a max range of 10, spread of 5, damage dropoff rate of 10%, a clip size of 40 while requiring 40 cells per shot, a 2 second firing time, and 4 second reload time.

An idea briefly talked about with Kornel in one of his streams when he added the JHC BFT, and he seemed receptive to the idea, so I want to formally propose it, while we could also use a third Unique shotgun. This is essentially a more mechanically faithful recreation of the actual Doom BFG, which despite it appearing to shoot a big plasma ball that explodes in a large splash radius, actually mechanically functions as like a, well, Big Fucking Shotgun, with the BFG firing 40 invisible hitscan tracers in a very large spread after the BFG ball explodes. The 40d5 damage appears absurd at first, but for reference, its average damage of 120 is the same as the Biggest Fucking Gun's average of 120, while unlike the Biggest Fucking Gun that has no damage falloff, this Big Fucking Shotgun would have a severe dropoff rate and cover a lot less ground than a 16 radius explosion, and with its 40 cells a shot that would make it less ammo efficient than the Plasma Shotgun that's already not known for ammo efficiency, it gotta be worth the ammo. Plus it should be able to very reliably one-shot any normal enemy from a few tiles away like the actual BFG, and the 40 dice would match the amount of tracers the BFG has. I think the weapon is strong enough to warrant the 2 second firing time and it would better resemble the actual BFG's very long firing startup, but if this would make it too impractical for non-Shottyhead builds, it could be reduceed to 1.5 seconds. It can also be moddable by Technicians with a 1 mod/basic assembly limit (though no basic assemblies in DRL would be applicable to it other than the Plasmatic Shrapnel that does nothing), and it can have a minimum depth of 20 to match the other BFGs (though maybe 18 or even 15 to give players more of a chance to get it before Mortuary/Limbo where it would see most utility) and naturally a spawning weight of 1.

*Add a new challenge called "Angel of Turbo", which makes all enemies +20% faster, and an Archangel variant that makes them +40% faster.

Among the available challenges, there are currently none that directly buff enemies (AoMC makes them hit a lot harder, but you get the same buff), just various ways to nerf the player or alter the game. A simple effective yet fun one would be a challenge that just makes all enemies faster, which would make them more offensively dangerous, more difficult to outrun, and makes corner shooting them all to death harder, while seeing how the new Enraged mode can make enemies faster, this should be doable to program in as a challenge now. N! was originally supposed to have faster enemies anyway, and this would emulate actual Doom's fast monsters setting, which is commonly played as its own challenge category there. Not to mention this would also serve a purpose for people wanting to make the game harder without having some restriction imposed on them like other challenges do. If implemented, naturally there should be an Archangel variant too that makes enemies even faster (+40% could be tried initially, but it could be +30% if it proves rather unplayable). "Angel of Turbo" is a placeholder name, if someone thinks of a better name that should be used instead. I can think up of new badge ideas for the challenge if this is accepted.

*Add a new challenge called "Angel of Drought", which makes all ammo drops contain a third of the usual ammo amount (including ammo in ammo boxes and ammo dropped by enemies), and makes melee weapons unusable, while also making Brute give no damage bonus.

This was discussed for JHC after playing the one beta with bugged ammo drops, but this challenge idea would work in DRL too, as a more effective ammo-deprivation challenge than Angel of Light Travel since you'll be encountering far less ammo altogether, thus creating a challenge where ammo management is a much more serious obstacle, while there is farther meaningful difference from AoLT since the rest of your inventory is not limited nor do you get a speed boost. A ban on melee weapons will be needed however, since otherwise this would just devolve into a lighter Angel of Berserk, and Brute should give no damage bonus either, since the fist would be able to do respectable damage after several Brute levels and thus significantly lighten the later portion of the challenge. If you want to get cute with the references, "Angel of McGee" would work well, naming it after the Doom developer responsible for some of Doom's most infamous drought maps (such as E4M1: Hell Beneath), but "Angel of Drought" works if you don't want the name to be overly referential (and it's probably better to name the badge series after McGee instead). I can think up of new badges for this challenge if this is accepted.

*Add a new challenge called "Angel of Pestilence", which emulates a permanent deadly air event where the player's health steadily drains nonstop, and perhaps an Archangel version as well with a ramped up health draining rate.

A common criticism of DRL's Angel modes is that a large chunk of them enforce more cautious play (particularly the "don't get hit" challenges of Purity, Impatience, Masochism, Humanity, and even Max Carnage, which all severely inhibit the player's hit-taking ability in some way), while the only one that enforces more aggressive play is Angel of Red Alert, so another challenge that forces the player to play faster would help increase the strategic variety of the available challenges. When discussing this with Icy in the initial 0.9.9.8 proposal compilation thread, I thought up of one that emulates a permanent Deadly Air event with a continually steady HP drain, and while I backed off when Icy rejected it, an idea like it recently got independently brought up by Asbadagba as "Angel of Pestilence", and I still like the idea, so I'm gonna formally propose it. Like AoRA, you'll have to get through the game quickly lest you just get all your health drained away, while the strategic differences arise in rather than there being a strict timer cutoff on each individual level where you die instantly unless Invuln'd, here you can theoretically spend as long as you want on any level but it's a steady degradation in the player's ability to survive, which will carry over to the succeeding floors rather than getting a clean slate timer restart like AoRA gives you, and you'll become increasingly fragile with the health drain so you can't go as balls-to-the-walls as you would in AoRA. Compared to the actual Deadly Air event, enemies shouldn't be affected, so that way the player cannot abuse this by waiting in a safe hidey hole with a nearby full heal until all enemies get severely weakened, and Envirosuits shouldn't stop the health drain, while I also think Invulnerability shouldn't stop it either so that Invuln rushes doesn't dominate this challenge too hard. As a mercy, the health drain shouldn't be able to kill the player and so it should stop whenever the player is at 1 HP (though on that note, can Deadly Air kill the player, I never tried testing that before). An appropriate health drain rate will have to be decided through testing, but it could start at 1 HP every 5 ingame seconds (with an Archangel variant being twice as fast), matching the decay rate of boosted health, and then adjusted down if it's too easy (or up if it's actually too hard). I can think up of new badges for this challenge if this is accepted.

*Allow flooding events to flood with blood on UV/N!

After blood was added as a new damaging fluid in 0.10, this seems to be a sensible addition, especially as lategame floods tend to be rather nonthreatening, or can even be exploited by players with Cerberus/Lava/Enviro Boots to kill off most enemies on a floor if they don't mind losing the items, or just running by them and letting the flood kill them. Maybe add a new message too to let players immediately know it's a blood flood and so they don't leave enemies behind thinking the flood will kill them.

*Add a new "Malice" event, where the Enraged timer gets reduced to 2 and a half minutes on the floor.

With the Enraged Timer being added, we can have ways to play with it to create more time sensitivity, and one idea that came to mind is a lategame event that severely truncates the timer. It could be adjusted, but half of the nuke timer seems reasonable to me; the Enraged Timer running out doesn't instantly kill you like a nuke would, nor does it running out pose much a threat if you only have a few enemies left alive on a floor when it does run out, so the timer will have to be much shorter to seriously threaten the player. Also in my experience, at lategame you should be able to comfortably clear floors even on N! within a few minutes. I would restrict this event to HMP+ however, as it could be overly harsh for lower level players.

*Add a new "Reinforcements" event, where new enemies steadily spawn in on the floor.

DRL has the capability to spawn in new enemies onto a floor, but this capability is pretty underutilized, so an idea of a new event is one where new enemies will spawn in somewhere on the floor at regular time intervals based on difficulty (I'm thinking every 60/50/40/30/20 seconds on each difficulty respectively), and maybe in lategame on UV/N!, you can get a harder version of this event where every third enemy is an Elite Former or Nightmare enemy (or boss enemy if beyond floor 50 in A100/666), allowing these enemies to appear more often in the standard game. These spawned in enemies should naturally give no EXP, so the player is not incentivized to wait around and let them all spawn in, and the reinforcements should stop once the player kills all enemies so players going for 100% kills aren't forced to stick around, or after 12 ingame minutes has passed (shortly before the Enraged Timer runs out) so a player struggling to kill all the enemies don't get overrunned with infinitely spawning enemies and to also prevent players from abusing infinite spawns to inflate their kill rate (the 12 minutes limit means each difficulty would have 12/14/18/24/36 enemies spawn in total, which seems sensible to me). I would additionally disallow this event from showing up in AoRA, as it could otherwise screw over the Quartermaster runs that require a 100% killrate if it keeps spawning enemies on the opposite side of the map.

*Add a new "Turbo" event, where enemies get a +10% speed buff.

Like the rationale for the challenge idea of this, currently there are no events that directly buff enemies (unless you count giving all enemies the hunting flag a buff), so this seems sensible to me to spice up any given floor. The speed boost should be less than the proposed challenge gives, since the player will be less prepared for it as a random event than if they were playing said challenge (especially when playing other challenges that could make it extra dangerous), though on UV/N! there should naturally be a chance to roll a harder variation that gives the +20% speed boost.

*Add "Partial Invisibility" as a new powerup.

Among Doom's powerups, there is one conspicuously missing from DRL, the Partial Invisibility globe, and according to that very old archive I found of planned DRL features in 0.9.9.8-beyond before development stalled, the Partial Invisibility was planned to get added. There are three potential effects it could have implemented; the first one is to make enemies fire in random directions instead of at the player, which would be most faithful to how it actually works in Doom but could be overly chaotic and cause problems with how VMR targeting works. The second idea is to have it reduce enemy accuracy and increase the player's dodging rate like running already does, which would be practical but rather boring and worthless against the VMR. The third idea would be to have it replicate JHC's Stealth, i.e. enemies can't see you until it runs out or you attack, and wouldn't be completely out-of-line with what Doom players expect since that is sorta how it works in ZDoom-based source ports, while the coding for Stealth already exists. Of the three options, I would prefer the third, and I imagine it's what most players would find more exciting. However perhaps you can do a combination of the second and third ideas, where the player is stealthed initially, but if the player attacks before it wears off, the stealth gets turned off while the remaining Partial Invisibility time gives them the reduced enemy accuracy/buffed dodging bonus, as otherwise Stealth as a random powerup might not be that useful for players on completionist playthroughs who often wouldn't find much extended use for sneaking past enemies (while also again this would resemble its ZDoom functionality, where it lets you sneak by enemies that haven't been alerted to your presence yet and then behaves like usual Partial Invisibility once they have been and start attacking you).

*Change the listed difficulty for the challenges

This isn't important because the listed difficulty of challenges don't really matter, but if the difficulty ratings are meant to guide newbies towards which challenges they should try first, the following have difficulty ratings that are significantly off and should be adjusted accordingly:

  • Angel of Light Travel: Hard -> Easy - The smaller inventory isn't as significant a drawback as you might expect, but mainly the 20% speed boost can make AoLT actually easier than a standard game for melee or very ammo efficient builds. Tellingly, combining challenges with AoLT was exploited by several people to get Diamond badges easier than they would be normally.
  • Archangel of Travel: Blade -> Very Hard or even Hard - Only two inventory slots is actually very restrictive, even pure melee builds would want to carry more medkits and spare armors, but you get an even greater speed boost, and as a result AAoLT isn't remotely as difficult as the other Archangels or even the top-end normal Angels. I think you can justify rating it just Hard, but Very Hard could be listed instead just to be a little conservative with not underrating it.
  • Angel of Impatience: Hard -> Very Hard - The inability to store medkits is a pretty major limitation; you get yourself in a bad spot with no healing immediately available, and your run can just end right there, even late game runs that otherwise would be near home free in other challenges can abruptly end from getting a bad starting spawn with no healing powerups around. This is on top of many special levels being far more dangerous with no healing available whatsoever in them, and being unable to store mods for better equipment later (without Scavenger that is) nor store other items that could be useful later. As such, I think rating AoI as just Hard is underselling it.
  • Angel of Confidence: Very Hard -> Hard - You might need to reset a few times to get a first floor that doesn't kill you, but those few resets wouldn't make completing an AoCn run take more cumulative time than a standard game run, and AoCn overall just isn't that hard to win. If AoOC didn't exist, Sereging probably would have still thrived with AoCn.
  • Angel of Red Alert: Medium -> Hard - "Medium" for AoRA? No, absolutely not. Just look at how often people got their shit kicked in when they first played AoRA, and many of them just never really get the hang of it. AoRA not only forces people to test a skill in their routing and overall time efficiency that otherwise often didn't matter in standard play, but it's also very unforgiving and even runs that make it past Phobos can suddenly die from a single bad floor. Medium is jut a gross underrating of what people can expect when delving into AoRA.
  • Angel of Pacifism: Easy -> Medium - AoPc being listed as "Blade" prior to 0.9.9.7 was a hilarious overrating, but "Easy" is still underselling it. It's not hard to spam runs until you get the luck needed to win, but since you are completely unable to fight back, there will be many runs even on HNTR that you just cannot win in, and so I think "Easy" is giving an inaccurate picture here.
  • Archangel of Masochism: Blade -> Tormuse - Aside from it not making sense to have this share the same difficulty rating as its Angel counterpart, the fact this challenge has so far only been beaten once on N! in over a decade, by someone using the most busted mastery in DRL history, and in a buggy version with the permanent 95% dodging rate to boot, says enough that Blade undersells the difficulty of this.

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 on: December 26, 2025, 23:48 
Started by Omega Tyrant - Last post by Omega Tyrant
I've been putting this off since I don't enjoy doing speedruns, but I don't got many Diamonds left in 0.9.9.7 and so it's time for UAC Diamond. According to the 0.9.9.7 Badge Hunters thread, UAC Diamond was one of the more common Diamonds with 11 people recorded win it and that's without being able to cheese it with Angel challenges, so it must be pretty easy for a Diamond despite the sub-20 minute requirement looking imposing at first. With the build, basically everyone used a melee-centric Scout, with any deviation being if to get Blademaster or just Berserker and get other traits outside of Blademaster's prereqs. The only one with a more unique build was Icy's first UAC Diamond, being the only recorded UAC Diamond run that never got Berserker, but even then he still got a level of Brute to more quickly kill the bosses with Invuln. This makes sense as a melee Scout will be far and away the fastest way to beat the game, and I was just going to do that too, however after discussion on how feasible it would be to beat N! AoSh in under 20000 turns (with me proposing that as the new Shottyman Diamond requirement), I thought to give that a test run by getting UAC Diamond with a Shotgun build and no Berserker.

With trait order, I lead off with HR, partially to better outmaneuver enemies and build towards either Shottyhead or Gunrunner, and partially to help towards the secondary goal of finishing in under 20K turns. Then it's obviously gunning for Shottyman, after that is where things can diverge. I was initially aiming with sticking to Shottyhead's prereqs, but the two times I reached the Cyberdemon when doing that, I was only level six and so no Shottyhead, while only a single level of HR doesn't suffice to chip him down with the basic Shotgun or Combat Shotgun without farther offensive boost and much better defenses. You can reach level 7 before the Cyberdemon while remaining ahead of the time pace, and I did so to get Shottyhead a couple other times, but died each time before reaching him. This could work if I kept at it, but with the unreliability of reaching level 7 before the Cyberdemon and Shottyhead still not being RNG-proof to beat him using mediocre shotguns if I don't make it to Tower Of Babel in good shape, I decide the more reliable option would be to get the tried-and-true Dodgemaster to near-guarantee getting past the Cyberdemon as long as I had enough ammo, after which anything could happen. Finesse comes after for the obvious offensive boost and then Juggler despite not being very useful with how little weapon switching I can do on a real time limit, but that opens access to either Shottyhead or Gunrunner for a last big powerup.

After 12 attempts, I would get a victory, but it ended up just short of UAC Diamond and the Major Icarus Cross, with me finishing with a time of 21:01 and a turn count of 22070. A recurring issue in these attempts is not finding a Double Shotgun nor two Power mods to make an Elephant Gun (while not finding any of the special shotguns either), and shotgunning down the N! Cyberdemon with just a P-modded Shotgun will take a couple minutes at least, even longer with the Combat Shotgun or unmodded Shotgun, while the Mastermind took longer since I have to do a lot of careful safe plinking if I don't get Shottyhead or Gunrunner (another recurring problem is reaching level 9 before the Mastermind while remaining on pace is difficult). Even when making it to the Mastermind with some Invuln from rocket jumping and a Plasma Shield that enabled some more aggressive fighting after the Invuln ran out, I just did not have good enough offense to kill the bosses in time. If only when I accidentally went down the stairs to Limbo when Invuln'd and was able to get out, if I remembered to run towards the Nuclear BFG corner, I could have nuked the Mastermind... well that's the pressure the real time limit imposes. (Failed mortems will be put in spoilers)

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On attempt 16, I get another good run to Hell 6 with a bunch of Medkits, a P-modded Double Shotgun, had a bunch of medkits, and a Phase Device, while well below the 20 minute and 20K turn barriers, but I then got a warehouse level that put me in a starting room with a ton of Barons and Archviles with the stairs on the other side of the map, while after getting overwhelmed when trying to corner shoot them all behind some crates, the Phase Device just plopped me in a different spot in the room, and when I got out of the room, I got met with more Hell Nobles and end up dying when trying to run through them. I once again did not reach level 9, having Shottyhead here would have allowed me to fight off the Baron/Vile horde in the first room, and then I could fought my way through the second room, but alas it wasn't mean to be.

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In the attempt after that, the run didn't seem particularly special and I had to shotgun down the Cyberdemon with a T-modded Combat Shotgun, but I again accidentally went down to Limbo and without having Invuln nor even berserk. I am however able to rocket jump my way out, while this time remembering to go for the Nuclear BFG. After lots of rocket jumping with my healthy Fireproof Red Armor through Hell 5 and 6, I thought I got it when I still had a Homing Phase intact on Hell 7 to immediately get to Dis and nuke the Mastermind for the near-instant kill. The run did succeed in getting me a N! Major Icarus Cross as a primary shotgun build, but devastatingly, its real time clocked in at... 20:01, 2 seconds shy of UAC Diamond.

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At this point, I was contemplating calling it with shotguns and just running the melee build, since I did back the theory of winning under 20K turns being feasible in DRL's N! AoSh, but I still wanted a UAC Diamond mortem with no Berserker nor even Brute to make it a bit more interesting, so I kept at it. On attempt 24, I again have a run with no Double Shotgun and have to shotgun down Cybie with only a P-modded Shotgun, but coming in with Invuln near Babel's stairs made the fight quite a bit quicker, as I could just spam the shotgun at point blank not only for a little extra damage with each shot, but it also saved a ton of time by not having to repeatedly dodge and not have the game repeatedly pause as the rockets fly past me. I can't kill him before the Invuln runs out, but I get his health down by about 75% before it does and so the fight ends up taking only about a minute. I still had no Rocket Launcher though to even rocket jump, so it wasn't looking too promising, but I get a Hell that goes surprisingly well with early Invuln luck and I amass a large amount of medkits. Mid Hell it starts getting rough and I'm having to shotgun down hordes of tough enemies, particularly a large Revenant + Vile group on Hell 6, but finally I get enough experience to hit level 9 in one of these attempts and get a mastery, with both Shottyhead and Gunrunner being available. Normally I would vastly prefer Shottyhead, and Shottyhead would have been made fighting my way out of more Revenant + Vile hordes the game kept throwing at me much easier, while Gunrunner in comparison couldn't really be safely utilized against them. However Gunrunner would be the faster real time option for killing the Mastermind, especially so with just a P-modded Shotgun and no Shell Box, so I decide to go with it. And it pays off as planned, Gunrunner + Shottyman lets me safely rush down the Mastermind and kill her much faster than usual despite it still taking roughly around 50 shots to kill her. Upon killing her, I get a time clocked in at 17:36, netting me UAC Diamond without any melee whatsoever, and the turn count finishes at 19592, while unlike the previous run where I made a lot of Rocket Launcher usage, I don't even get a Rocket Launcher here until Hell 7 that I didn't store any rockets to use it and so it's even more purely shotguns only (the only non-shotgun usage being shooting a couple Formers with the Pistol in Phobos Base Entry until I got my first Shotgun).

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 DoomRL (0.9.9.7) roguelike post-mortem character dump
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 speed24, level 9 Cyberdemon Chaos Mjr General Scout,
 defeated the Mastermind at the City of Dis.
 He survived 19592 turns and scored 328880 points.
 He played for 17 minutes and 36 seconds.
 He opposed the Nightmare!

 He killed 366 out of 1006 hellspawn. (36%)

-- Special levels --------------------------------------------

  Levels generated : 11
  Levels visited   : 6
  Levels completed : 0

-- Awards ----------------------------------------------------

  UAC Star (bronze cluster)
  Major Icarus Cross
  Compet-n Gold Cross
  UAC Diamond Badge

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-- Statistics ------------------------------------------------

  Health 44/50   Experience 37888/9
  ToHit Ranged +0  ToHit Melee +0  ToDmg Ranged +0  ToDmg Melee +0

-- Traits ----------------------------------------------------

  Class : Scout

    Finesse          (Level 1)
    Hellrunner       (Level 2)
    Reloader         (Level 2)
    Juggler          (Level 1)
    Dodgemaster      (Level 1)
    Shottyman        (Level 1)
    Gunrunner        (Level 1)

  HR->Rel->Rel->SM->HR->DM->Fin->Jug->MGr->

-- Equipment -------------------------------------------------

    [a] [ Armor      ]   red armor [4/4] (170%) (B)
    [b] [ Weapon     ]   shotgun (9d3) [0/1] (P1)
    [c] [ Boots      ]   tactical boots [0/0] (100%)
    [d] [ Prepared   ]   combat shotgun (7d3) [5/5]

-- Inventory -------------------------------------------------

    [a] rocket launcher (6d6) [1/1]
    [b] green armor [1/1] (100%)
    [c] blue armor [2/2] (86%)
    [d] shotgun shell (x50)
    [e] shotgun shell (x7)
    [f] small med-pack
    [g] small med-pack
    [h] large med-pack
    [i] large med-pack
    [j] large med-pack
    [k] phase device
    [l] phase device
    [m] bulk mod pack
    [n] bulk mod pack

-- Resistances -----------------------------------------------

    Fire       - internal 0%    torso 25%   feet 0%   

-- Kills -----------------------------------------------------

    74 former humans
    36 former sergeants
    20 former captains
    69 imps
    49 demons
    38 lost souls
    16 cacodemons
    5 hell knights
    1 baron of hell
    2 arachnotrons
    3 former commandos
    2 pain elementals
    34 revenants
    4 mancubi
    11 arch-viles
    1 Cyberdemon
    1 Spider Mastermind

-- History ---------------------------------------------------

  He started his journey on the surface of Phobos.
  On level 5 he stormed the Chained Court.
  On level 8 he encountered the Phobos Anomaly.
  On level 9 he entered Deimos Lab.
  He left the Deimos Lab without drawing too much attention.
  He left level 11 as soon as possible.
  On level 11 he arrived at the Containment Area.
  Not knowing what to do, he left.
  On level 16 he found the Tower of Babel!
  On level 17 he invaded the Unholy Cathedral!
  He fled the Unholy Cathedral seeing no chance to win.
  On level 19 he stumbled into a complex full of arch-viles!
  He sounded the alarm on level 19!
  He left level 19 as soon as possible.
  On level 19 he entered the Vaults.
  He came, he saw, but he left.
  On level 21 he assembled a tactical boots!
  On level 22 he entered the Lava Pits.
  He decided it was too hot there.
  He left level 23 as soon as possible.
  Then at last he found Dis!
  On level 24 he finally defeated the Mastermind.

-- Messages --------------------------------------------------

 dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom!
 The Spider Mastermind flinched!
 You dodge! You are hit! You are hit! You dodge! You are hit! You dodge!
 The Spider Mastermind flinched! You stop running.
 You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You are
 hit! You dodge! Boom!
 You dodge! You are hit! You dodge! You are hit! You dodge! You dodge!
 You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You
 dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom!
 You are hit! You are hit! You are hit! Boom! You are hit! You are hit!
 You use a small med-pack. You feel healed.
 You start running!
 You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! You dodge! Boom! Boom! You
 dodge! Boom!
 The Spider Mastermind dies. Congratulations! You defeated the Spider
 Mastermind! Press <Enter>...

-- General ---------------------------------------------------

 298 brave souls have ventured into Phobos:
 108 of those were killed.
 1 of those was killed by something unknown.
 96 didn't read the thermonuclear bomb manual.
 And 7 couldn't handle the stress and committed a stupid suicide.

 86 souls destroyed the Mastermind...
 7 sacrificed itself for the good of mankind.
 45 killed the bitch and survived.
 34 showed that it can outsmart Hell itself.

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While very much doable, doing UAC Diamond with no melee certainly made it a lot tougher. To accurately access the difficulty of the badge when played more optimally, I ran it again with the standard Blademaster build... and got a time of 13:27 on my first try without even trying that hard to go fast nor ever getting a Rocket Launcher for rocket jumping (one highlight include going towards one side of a floor and clearing all the enemies within it, only to realize the stairs were on the complete opposite side of the map). Yeah UAC Diamond is one of the easiest Diamonds with a melee Scout (at least without Sereging factored), 20 minutes is surprisingly generous and the doubled powerups + healing of N! really boosts the dominant berserk rush strategy. Even more players would have won this badge for sure if many didn't just absolutely refuse to play any N! nor overestimated how strict the 20 minute time limit actually is.

(Here's the last mortem on the 13:27 melee run just in case anyone wants to see the proof of that)

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