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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2006, 18:07 »

What, more beautiful than me?

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Wolfenstein defined the entire genre of FPS's.  What better form to immortalize it than ASCII?
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2006, 23:33 »

I have always thought a WolfRL would be awsome, if you could sneak up on guards, and stuff.

I actually created a boardgame like that once, it was fun, really difficult for the escapee, but fun.

I would love to see Wolf as a RL, i am glad someone other than me thinks the same!
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2006, 23:38 »

I might do it as a 7DRL :).
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2006, 10:58 »

Quoting: Psycho
I have always thought a WolfRL would be awsome, if you could sneak up on guards, and stuff.

I actually created a boardgame like that once, it was fun, really difficult for the escapee, but fun.

Really?  Do you still have the rules and stuff?  I'd love to give it a try!
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2006, 13:54 »

Yeah i do have the rules, for the board i had a gigantic graph paper which i cut up into rooms of varying sizes, i printed off some guards and stuff, all using the old wolf3d graphics. Its just homemade, so its not the fanciest, or most balanced, but it is fun.

The escapee almost always loses, just like in real life :)

I could send you the token pages and rules if i can find them on my PC.
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2006, 14:29 »

Please do!  I'm eager to see it!

Edit:  Ever since I read your post about the board game, I have started working on my own!
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2006, 18:12 »

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Edit: Ever since I read your post about the board game, I have started working on my own!

Its always been a hobby of mine, im glad i inspired you, ill go look up (and rewrite the rules to be a bit more readable by people other than me) for you, expect an email in a few days, as im out camping this weekend.

Send me your rules if you ever finish yours!
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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2006, 23:56 »

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We welcome the first representative of the more beautiful side of mankind to the forum :).


The first representative? I suppose, you missed somebody VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU. Yes, she posts here very rarely, but still SHE does!!!
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2006, 23:59 »

Ooops, I'm gonna get killed ^_^
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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2006, 17:22 »

Hahaha

Dont get mad at him Margo, it uses to happen! One tends to overlook what is more important for one self.

Specially when personal hobbies, like roguelikes are involved (yep yep... it happens to me a lot :D)
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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2006, 21:58 »

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Dont get mad at him Margo, it uses to happen!


So I see that my dear poor little Kornel has his own personal spokesman ^_^. I'm afraid it won't help him much. Better advice him Slash, which flowers should he buy me tommorow. Otherwise he can't count on forbearance. And the nervous RLdeveloper amounts to NOT THE MOST EFFECTIVE RLdeveloper. Do you really want that, guys? ^_^
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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2006, 22:45 »

I have thunk, and thought and done many other things, and i have decided

WolfRl could be done by your truly

Remember though
Im 15 with no coding experience whatsoever

I plan to use either
Visual Basic (my freind knows some, w00t)
or Freepascal

However, i must inquire, what is ValkaiteCMS library (or similar)
would it be easy to use?

I did half of a Design Doc for this and so far i have these "features"

-Weapons of diffrent strength (persay, 1 pistol might have 4 attack, whilst another might have 5, and so on)

-7 or 8 diffrent enemies, and 3 diffrent bosses (30 levles altogether)

-6 Weapons (i beleive)

3-5 Diffrent Level types

-2 diffrent ways to play, you could go stealth, or Gunz-a-blazin'

Definetly some sort of alarm system.

so, there you have it, if someone can point me to some sort of coding engine i can easily learn and use, i will create said roguelike (by Create i mean start and PROBABLY not finish.)

If Kornel or anyone else completes it before i do, good idea, id much rather play it than create it, as i have other, more important things to do (such as Homework!)

Thanks all
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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2006, 12:44 »

I admire your gumption (whatever that is), but I have a few ideas from I had from studying the game for the last couple days.

1.  The Pistol, Machine Gun, and Caingun all used the same ammo and dealt the same damage.  The only thing that changed was the rate of fire.

2. In the original, non-3d WOlfenstein, there were grenades and enemy uniforms you could wear.

3. In the Mac version of Wolf 3D, there were two extra weapons- the flame thrower, which ran on gas, and the rocket launcher, which used rockets.

Also, I'm gonna repost a link Kornel gave me.
http://www.wolfenstein3d.co.uk/enemies.htm

And here is one I found.
http://www.mac-archive.com/wolfenstein/index.html

Question, what enemies are you thinking about?  Because I can only think of 5 different enemies -- the rest are bosses and special level enemies.
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« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2006, 13:24 »

i was thinking of making it with a few more enemies and weapons for the sake of variety

For enemies i was thinking prison guard, Brownshirt Guard, Guard Dog, SS Guard, SS stormtrooper, and zombies.

The prison guard is a weaker version of the Brownshirt, and the SS guard is an actual guard, whereas the SS stromtrooper will storm the level if an alarm is set off

as for weapons, i was looking at pistol Machinegun, Chaingun (of course) With a Kar98k, Sturmrifle, and Grenades

I own the original game, i should be fine, i just wanted to have more variety. Im planning on having the same ammo for Pistol Machinegun and Chaingun, and the same ammo for Kar98k and the sturmrifle (Sturmrifle is the first ever assault rifle btw)

I also have the original non 3d Wolfenstein.

Im not sure about uniforms, im thinking no, the only way you could get them is off a dead guard, and to get them you have to kill him, and i think people would notice a bit stab rip in the uniform ;)

As for bosses, i plan to have Hans Gross, Dr. Shcabbs and Hitler, there will be 3 "episodes" of 10 levels each, im not sure about secret levels.

No lives, 1 death only

For level types im planning
1. Jail
2.Generic "castle"
3. Armory
4. Kitchen
5. Lab
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2006, 15:48 »

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Im 15 with no coding experience whatsoever


I admire your will, but I suggest you to make a smaller game before going into this, just so the oportunity is not wasted ;)

I wouldnt recommend Visual Basic

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what is ValkaiteCMS library


ValkirieCMS is a top-notch web tool used to generate high quality roguelike websites..

.. now... 'Carceri' is (will be?) a data driven roguelike engine which I hope doesnt get corrupted by unneeded LUA crap, with which you will be able to create all sorts of fun themed roguelikes without needing to code.

Quoting: Psycho
if someone can point me to some sort of coding engine i can easily learn and use,


Java is a pretty nice coding engine, you may want to give it a look at http://java.sun.com or tutorials around the web

Quoting: Psycho
Create i mean start and PROBABLY not finish.


Thats not the spirit! :/
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