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grommile

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Reorder experience ranks
« on: March 07, 2011, 14:23 »
Not sure whether I should put this as "wishlist-rank bug" or "feature request", so I'll go with feature request for now.

Mancubus rank seems like it's at the wrong point in the progression. Mancubi are unquestionably nastier (and, importantly, deeper-spawning) than Hell Knights, and arguably nastier than Barons, so it seems odd to have to get past Mancubus rank to reach Hell Knight rank.
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Re: Reorder experience ranks
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 14:39 »
Agreed. At my current rate I wouldn't be surprised if I jumped from Cacodemon to Hell Knight. I might have tacked on 'Baron of Hell', too, if it were likely I'd kill 400 more of them before I shot 9 mancubi to almost dead and then tapped them with my finger or a bullet. (Granted, I have trouble with that with every build that's gotten me to Hell.)

Why no Revenant? Or Pain Elemental, or Lost Soul, or former sergeant captain commando? More importantly, why no rewards for demon ranks?

I would like to be able to be a Former Sergeant Sergeant, if only for a little while.
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Re: Reorder experience ranks
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 15:24 »
Quote from: Ander Hammer on March 07, 2011, 14:39
Agreed. At my current rate I wouldn't be surprised if I jumped from Cacodemon to Hell Knight. I might have tacked on 'Baron of Hell', too, if it were likely I'd kill 400 more of them before I shot 9 mancubi to almost dead and then tapped them with my finger or a bullet. (Granted, I have trouble with that with every build that's gotten me to Hell.)
I think I resorted to ITYTD pistol games. (Bagging the melee quota came naturally from doing Strongman Bronze and Strongman Silver on separate runs :)

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Why no Revenant? Or Pain Elemental, or Lost Soul, or former sergeant captain commando? More importantly, why no rewards for demon ranks?
The rank is the reward, I think. The skill ranks are used for unlocking challenge modes, so there's nothing for the experience ranks to reward you with.

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I would like to be able to be a Former Sergeant Sergeant, if only for a little while.
The precise example you cite is why you can't :) Also, I'm not sure you can pick up enough bronze+silver badges in few enough runs to not skip straight past a "former sergeant" rank.
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Re: Reorder experience ranks
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2011, 16:10 »
There is room for these ranks to be reworked.

For instance, in the last 3 versions, I have jumped from Cacodemon to Hell Baron because by the time I kill 5 manubi with a pistol (or was it melee?), I had already fulfilled the requirements of Hell Knight. In fact, I don't think I've *ever* been the Hell Knight rank at all.
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Re: Reorder experience ranks
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2011, 17:14 »
If skill ranks unlock challenge modes, experience ranks could totally be used to unlock the fun, crazy (and badge-excluded) modes that DoomRL is lacking right now. Just saying.
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Re: Reorder experience ranks
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2011, 18:45 »
Quote from: grommile on March 07, 2011, 15:24
The precise example you cite is why you can't :)

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The rest of this game is excellently stat-tracky-achievementy-unlocky. It puzzles me that there's two separate ranking systems and one of them is just for flavor. I like Nameless's idea.

Example of crazy fun mode: each demon rank unlocked opens a new option in a new menu:

"Play as a monster"
« Last Edit: March 08, 2011, 10:46 by Ander Hammer »
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