scavenger nearly worthless?

Started by Khashishi, March 07, 2012, 21:49

Khashishi

I tried it, and realized it did nothing for me. It could use a buff. A really big buff.

IronBeer

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Pricklyman

Although I personally haven't unlocked Ao100, I can see it's use from my little vantage.

In a normal game, the chance of you getting enough weapons/uniques/exotics/useless assemblies by the time you get Scavenger to make it worth while - is minimal.

On Ao100...you've got about 76 more chances...

bardysya

Hmm... When I'm playing the technician, I mostly always use scavenger, it helps me very good. Almost with this trait I make my master and advanced assemblies, by scrapping useless guns I find... that's very good trait at all.
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Zalminen

I usually take Scavenger whenever i feel like playing Ao100 but so far it has been actually useful once or twice....

The game just loves throwing armors and melee weapons my way whenever I take it.
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Dreadlord

I entered Hell's Armory with a red armor and the Grammaton Cleric Beretta which was useless for my build turned into an Onyx Pack. A fair trade, I used this hard-modded armor throughout the whole game and got a full win, and a great deal of success came thanks to this trait.

Mogul

Thanks to this trait I was able to make a Biggest Fucking Gun and twoshot the mastermind.

Also make a really spiffy sniper burst nuclear plasma rifle, but the BFG was the memorable part.

Tormuse

Scavenger is hit or miss, really.  Sometimes, it's a spectacularly useful game-changer, and sometimes, it's completely useless.  As Ironbeer said above, it's a lot more likely to be useful on Ao100.
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Dreadlord

I think it is a matter of luck, or a matter of RNG blessing (which are pretty much the same). You either get enough useless exotic/unique weapons, or you regret all those wasted traits.

IronBeer

Quote from: Dreadlord on March 10, 2012, 12:01...or you regret all those wasted traits.
Eagle Eye and Intuition at the very least are useful in their own right.
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RSO

The biggest advantage of Scavenger is its prereqs: Eagle Eye, Intuition, and Whizkid. Those three traits are better than some master traits, all on their own. Scavenger itself is a little underwhelming.

It's been hinted at that Intuition and Whizkid may be receiving nerfs soon (Whizkid already had been nerfed a bit by some of the Assembly changes). If they do, Scavenger will need a buff, but as it is, it's fine.
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skarczew

Quote from: RSO on March 10, 2012, 18:53It's been hinted at that Intuition and Whizkid may be receiving nerfs soon
Intuition? WTH for? It has already been nerfed compared to the Intuition I remember from the older versions.

AlterAsc

And it's still very good.
Not so sure about WK - seems balanced for me.
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ultimate26

I have been testing Scavenger only to feel extremely weak and hard to stabilize...

One thing i really notice is that Without Reloader or Juggler, the first few levels you would rely on pistol or swapping shotguns.

Pinkies chew you up :(

Once you get the Chaingun, it feels kind of weak without SOB or P mods specially when fighting multiples CACOs in the arena or Chained Court.

I am thinking of trying again with EE-SOB-EE-SOB-INT-WK-WK-Msc for it to be tolerable.

The good side of getting it early on is that you can turn the chainsaw into a mod right away, but i end up dying the moment i gain Scavenger because of its extremely passive nature.

Anybody share some insight on how to use scavenger rush build properly?

skarczew

Quote from: AlterAsc on March 11, 2012, 06:12And it's still very good.
It was nerfed, but now it is easier to get. Once it required EE*2 ...